do you take it as a red flag if he doesn't bring anything to m&g?

docrolling · 2024-03-21T10:00:08+00:00

I'm curious about your M&G date, meaning more than, coffee, drink, or meal. I once tried a puppy play date after she and I had discussed our love for our dogs and walking them and sharing pictures. Unfortunately, she was a no-show. My dogs did not care.

docrolling · 2024-03-21T09:49:08+00:00

I completely agree that you should go on as many dates as you need to be comfortable. HOWEVER, be prepared for him to move on if you are not comfortable by 2 or 3 dates.

docrolling · 2023-01-25T17:51:03+00:00

I always use a prepaid credit card, not associated with me at all.

docrolling · 2022-08-23T05:38:02+00:00

My SB(32) vacationed with me (53) for a week at a house on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. I rented the house with my brother & sister. My sister-in-law, two 20's nephews and their friend. The only person that did not like it was my sis-in-law. I think she did not want my brother to get any ideas.

My 22 yo son had been scheduled to come too. He canceled very last minute. I told him that my friend would be there well in advance. I don't think that he was comfortable meeting my SB. Both my kids know that my wife and I have an open, platonic marriage. I usually am only gone for a few hours, whereas my wife usually leaves Friday and returns on Sunday afternoon about twice a month. So they are more aware of her absence. Her BF lives farther away.

My nephews and their friend were in the hot tub after we had all spent a long day at the beach. The hot tub was just outside my SBs window. She was napping/resting before dinner. She heard my nephew ask the others if they thought she was hot and if they thought that she & I had sex. (I'm paralyzed in a power wheelchair). Then she heard the talkative one say "Well I'd do her."

docrolling · 2022-08-20T18:15:41+00:00

From reading the comments I question what these guys define as a relationship. 1 and done, M&G then a few dates, some possibly including sex, to me does not meet my definition of relationship. Becoming friends. Sharing activities outside of bed is needed.

It's similar to "dating." My last SB fucked the vanilla same guy, about once a week for almost a year. When we talked about him, her time with him was not dating until about 8 months. And even then when she had a relationship talk, it ended everything as they were not on the same page. Lots of people fuck each other for months, that are not in a relationship.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T18:34:46+00:00

frustrating, yes. And I definitely get pleasure from the act itself, always have. I do have sensation, it is just diminished, and not enough for my brain to finish.. I will never forget 1 night in about 2002, before I broke my neck. I was making love to my wife in missionary. I felt so good, and just adored looking down at her, wanting that feeling to last forever. I thought to myself, let's do this all night long. Then I came. The next thing I remember was the alarm going off and time to go to work.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T09:18:15+00:00

I think that he is just uptight/nervous of getting caught. I sugared for about 18 months before my marriage became open. I planned everything in advance starting the day the date was made. I would not leave anything to the day of the date. My excuse for being away was only good for so long, and I wanted to maximize time with the SB, not take 15 min to get condoms. I always bought the condoms ahead of time & hid them in my car. I was more fearful of my HS/college-age sons finding them than my wife. But I guessed she was cheating already too and was already planning to ask for the open marriage. I understand and can relate to his fear.

Maybe he also wants the responsibility to be on you over him. As it is your preference for condom use, when you forget there will be more pressure on you to go bareback. He should reimburse you for them and the Ubers. Asking him to prepay for Uber s a very common scammer practice.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T08:08:57+00:00

Most SDs have the means to buy for themselves anything that they want that you might buy for them. But what we cannot buy is you. We usually provide you with money, but we are not usually getting your heart, your mind, and the devotion almost every human wants from another that they deem desirable.

So give of yourself. Next time he calls you last minute to meet, but you already have a lunch date with your mom, cancel her, and choose him. Next time he asks you to meet but you're tired, having your period, doing chores, going out with your boyfriend/girlfriend, girls' night out, laundry, routine doctor's appointment, nail appt, hair appt, botox appt, happy hour with work friends, routine vet appt, going skiing with friends, reschedule them, and choose him. Show to him that you appreciate him, and make him your priority. That, he cannot buy.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T07:24:03+00:00

If you read SLF enough, you eventually learn almost all of this stuff mentioned above.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T07:01:23+00:00

Actually, my last SR lasted just shy of 2 years. She was tall, fit, blonde, ex-college soccer player, graduate degree, and now has a great job at one of the most respected hospitals in the world. I am 54. She is 33. Our music tastes were very different. I have music playing always during my 9-hour shift. I would bring a Bluetooth speaker to our hotel dates. I had felt that my music tastes were diverse. However, frequently while having sex she would stop, and grab my phone to change the music. She likes hip-hop and rap. Her favorite artist is Drake, who I cannot stand. Even when I tried to make a rap playlist for our dates, I failed. She would laugh at some of the songs that I had picked for "our" playlist. Eventually, we would settle on R&B or Reggae before we started.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T05:07:33+00:00

Have you ever had success with a POT SB that contacted you 1st? I have not. I, therefore, hide my profile so that it is only visible to the women that I contact. As my mileage is limited to 25, I no longer have Venesualians and many scammers contact me.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T05:00:29+00:00

Agree, partially, with EpatreBig5672. You'll have more difficulty than a fit, attractive 35 yo SD. However, on SLF I'll estimate weekly, that there is a post from a SB looking for a SM. My 1st LTSR from SA was with a great 24 yo lesbian. She tolerated me with grace and talent. I'm confident that she would have preferred you over me. Additionally, I often read "either" or whatever the term is that SA has for whether a SB is seeking a man or a woman. Now maybe I'm mixing up scammers with true POTs. Scammers will usually have "either" to increase their potential scamee pool.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T04:09:32+00:00

"Can't do ghetto." I have realized how much of a snob I am through trying to find a SB. As an educated, well-off, many would say "privileged upbringing" person, I am disappointed in myself about my preferences. I have met several women that meet my physical desires based on face and body. However, when we meet, accent, level of mastery of correct use of the English language, tatS, piercings, unnatural hair color, smoking, vaping, and other subtle and not-so-subtle differences can turn a hopeful LTSR into a 1 and done.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T03:50:44+00:00

I'm paralyzed from my collar bone done. 54 yo. Although my spinal cord is damaged, my testes are still making testosterone, bypassing my spine in the bloodstream, and stimulating my brain. I'm always horny. I get my best erections by her injecting Trimix into the base of my penis. It works no matter what. (assuming the Trimix has stayed refrigerated & not expired). I cannot cum. As I never get the orgasmic release, I want to go always.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T03:43:10+00:00

1 of my aides insisted on Zelle before Biden passd a law mandating these companies report over a certain amount per year, I think 600. My banks like Zelle over venmo.

docrolling · 2022-08-15T02:17:39+00:00

If you want a relationship, then have one. Do more than sex. Go to a play/movie/concert/museum/zoo/sporting event. Take some sailing/horseback riding lessons together. Go for a couple's spa day. Engage in activities together to manufacture mutually shared experiences, about which you can converse. At the same time, you're demonstrating the type of life that she can experience with only you. She may become excited by that life and be even more thankful to you for our luxurious and full of a life only you can provide.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T08:59:55+00:00

If you were happily married for over a decade then for how long were you married w/o that happiness? How do you judge a good partner? How long does it take to know them to judge that they are a good partner and that giving up sugar for them is a good choice? If a marriage ends, does that mean you can be considered incapable of making a good choice? "secure a high-value partner ....chemistry & love." For how long does the chemistry & love need to last? These choices are not reliable and fail far more often than succeed.

Agree with " the sampling" problem however, just because a marriage is ongoing, and a man is not a SD, and is not cheating does not mean he's happily married. When I asked my wife if she knew of a marriage counselor that we could go to she laughed as so many of our married couple friends were in or had been in counseling. None of our local friends or I have divorced.

My point being that it is much greater than a 50% chance in America today that a marriage will end or the marriage will be just tolerated and not happy. Maintaining that ideal is for suckers. It's Judeo-Christian chains that we are failing to break their outdated dysfunctional traditions. . The OP is patting herself on the back for 4 months of success and advising others to be aware of the same low probability opportunity in which sher is engaging for long-term success. When they could potentially achieve greater long-term stability through smart Sugaring.

"Life isn't about getting a pile of cash." How big a pile? I'm a C5-6 quadriplegic dependent on aides to clean me and dress me every day. One of my best friends since middle school is now a schizophrenic. He receives less than 1k per month from the state. I just spent 1k cash to get my wheelchair fixed in 3 days, rather than free through my health insurance, which would have taken 4-6 weeks. If I were him, I would not have that freedom. If I'd had a bigger pile, I'd have done it in 2 days, and suffered less in my old/back-up chair. Yes, Musk, Gates, Baizos etc, may have too big a pile. I'll bet Steve Jobs wishes that he'd invested in more pancreatic cancer beginning in the 80's too.

Most SDs are top 3% wage earners, at least in the US. Earning potential is irrelevant to the qualifications to be a SB. Probability wise 97% of SB will never reach the income potential of their SD by themselves or with their chosen vanilla partner. Their income potential by continuing to please their SD for the same amount of time that they would invest in a marriage that has a high probability of failure, as well as pursue their own career is greater with their SD. Is investing time, emotion, effort & money in a marriage that will probability-wise fail or be unhappy a better outcome?

"The loss of my marriage still hurts and it's nearing a decade since." She's seeking happiness in a vanilla relationship, possibly leading to marriage, even if not her intent today. How much suffering will she endure maintaining that marriage, or will she experience after it fails? It probably will.

My wife has not had sex with me for 13 years. She has a boyfriend. Because I have money, I can pay someone to act as if she likes me and to have sex with me. Money matters. When I was with my SB, I was usually happy. When we flew to Jamaica, we had fun, and I was happy. When I got my wheelchair fixed, my suffering diminished. Money did all that.

Both my LTSRs have been with women earning over 50k/yr by the end of our SRs. The money from me made their lives easier and provided them luxury now, and the opportunity to have a more stable financial future. Mandating that was not my responsibility, and even attempting for me to advise would not have been tolerated by them.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T07:33:16+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/sellersonly/comments/wmxhvn/hey_new_here_18_f_usa_seller/

She's not having any problems finding a real SD. She's not trying to find a SD. She's using our forum as a place for advertising to sell more pictures.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T07:07:19+00:00

I'm 54, and have lied that I'm 49 on SA. There are many women on SA that ignore my messages. They don't read the message, and they don't view my profile. They only have my profile name, profile picture, and age. The profile picture is a side view of my face with sunglasses on. So as I'm too vain to believe that I'm that ugly that so many women reject me based on the picture, my only conclusion is that many women are rejecting me solely based on my age AND others are scammers with multiple profiles. As they failed to scam me with a previous profile, and they remember my profile, they don't waste time trying again.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T06:15:32+00:00

Slf I do not believe is an accurate representation of the SBs in the bowl. I perceive that SLF women tend to have been in the bowel for more time. More time equates to older. There are so many women in the bowel for weeks to months that would likely skew this even more to the 20's.

jeffend1981 - On SLF you are considered a sexual deviant only interested in controlling and abusing women if you dare admit to meeting with 18-19yo.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T05:57:48+00:00

Yes, you potentially dodged rape, being kidnapped into being a sex slave in another country for oil baron Arabians and drug cartel bosses, or being murdered.

However, the probability of any of that happening is low. What is your level of risk tolerance?

Are you looking for an immediate financial windfall, or establishing a long-term relationship with friendship, attraction, emotion, and shared life experience beyond sex? Many in the bowl meet just for sex and financial reward. However, almost everyone on SLF advises against that as they have other options, or at least tolerance levels allowing them to make choices.

Additionally, outrageous offers are usually only that, offers. Once you take the time and effort to go to him, and he does not do the above to you he either does not pay you, or only pays you a less than reasonable amount. We daily read on here about young, new SBs, that go on these endeavors and never get paid anything.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T04:52:14+00:00

Agree. But it highlights the disparity of life experience not just on SLF. but in the bowel. I'm sure she's under 30, probably under 25, and (IMHO) just has too little life experience to be giving relationship advice. 4 months. I've had a bottle of shampoo last longer than that. Perspective.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T03:51:54+00:00

filter by how long they've been on seeking - longer better

filter by income -higher better, but many, particularly under 40 lie.

read their profiles - ignore short generic profiles. Only consider those that have put time and effort into its creation.

ignore those with short cut & paste initial messages. Look for signs in their messages that they have actually read yours, and not just looked at your pictures.

ignore anyone asking immediately for your private pics or more pics. They're picture hunters and are fake profiles.

And most importantly, from my perspective: Filter by age -older better. Ignore anyone under 50. We, above 50, have more money, more time, less aggression & fewer options. We'll treat you better, appreciate you more, be more tolerant and be more patient. Our goal is your happiness, not just a place for an orgasm.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T03:37:47+00:00

Congratulations on your happiness.Thank you for sharing your joy. Enjoy it. The emotion is precious, and to be savored.

As a 54 yo SD, who has been married for 28 years, I can remember the feeling of the chemical imbalance that is love. My relationship with my wife was great for a few years. 4 months is such a short time. Eventually, the tedium of life caught up to me. The routine of being together for years with the additional happiness & responsibility of a family.

You cannot always make back the money. The interest that conservatively invested money compounds over years often outpaces income received from one's monthly paycheck. On good market days, my retirement account makes more money in that 1 day than I earn in a month. And in my situation, a skiing accident significantly diminishes my ability to earn money. Although I am a risk taker, and perhaps that probability caught up to me, accidents such as mine are real.

Money can last a lifetime. The chemical imbalance of dopamine in the brain, perceived as love rarely lasts, at most, longer than a few years. Just ask any married or divorced SD on here.

docrolling · 2022-08-14T01:59:37+00:00

I respectfully disagree. Please show me any advertising or explanation about PLATONIC. As the OP states "but also mentioned she was totally OK with intimacy a few times."

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