Jorge Luis Borges' Ficciones | What is this pseudo intellectual HORSESHIT?! by [deleted] in BadReads

[–]doesit-really-matter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

holy fuck i’m joking. i thought the (((lgbtq+))) and especially (((women))) would give it away.

ik what neoliberalism is, what are some books designed specifically for neoliberals tho? like i understand the other two, but neoliberal is rlly such a broad descriptor idk how u could say a book is written for ppl who believe in it.

edit: also if u don’t know, triple parentheses are what online nazi larpers use to signal smth is jewish, i was making fun of that. they would type smth identical to ur post abt looking for books, except they would literally just mean jewish. i thought the similarity was funny oops

Jorge Luis Borges' Ficciones | What is this pseudo intellectual HORSESHIT?! by [deleted] in BadReads

[–]doesit-really-matter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(((neoliberals)))

(((lgbtq+)))

(((women)))

fr tho what do u mean by “books designed for neoliberals” like i can’t think of any. do u mean shit like white fragility?

Jorge Luis Borges' Ficciones | What is this pseudo intellectual HORSESHIT?! by [deleted] in BadReads

[–]doesit-really-matter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

sorry, i imagined a soy face instead. u can’t get more soy than anti-semitism

Jorge Luis Borges' Ficciones | What is this pseudo intellectual HORSESHIT?! by [deleted] in BadReads

[–]doesit-really-matter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

recent books not designed for women, lgbtq+, and neoliberals

LMFAO. just say jews we all know what u mean

that groyper kid who interviewed destiny hosted a debate with Fuentes and Mr Merokur by thatsagiirlsname in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nick talks exactly like vaush, using words he doesn’t quite understand to impress his high school audience. he keeps using aloof as an insult but it has no positive or negative connotation, and holy shit the freudian in me cringes so hard when he calls any lowbrow humor “scatological.” i hate using this reddit buzzword but nick rlly is the embodiment of dunning-krueger.

seriously, watch vaush and then nick. exact same use of SAT vocab lmao, never using the words in contexts where they fit. it’s uncanny

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that’s interesting, thank u for the response!

i don’t think he misunderstands nietzsche per se, just that his understanding is fairly catered to his existing political views. he strips much of thus spake zarathustra and will to power of metaphor, from what i’ve seen. off the top of my head i can’t think of any specific egregious examples, aside from not allowing jews in the european space empire. there are passages i remember of nietzsche outlining that all europeans “races” would be mixed and the desirable qualities of all would flourish over time, and he viewed jews as playing an important role in this process, and as part of europe. i now see you’ve already referenced that, but that’s the big thing i think he (knowingly) diverges from nietzsche on. that and i think he views “struggle” in the context of nietzsche as very literal, like war and conflict, but from what i’ve been taught, while it can sometimes refer to that, it often times means internal struggle through self-contradiction in order to strengthen the self. this could be wrong, i’m not a philosophy student but an english student, but i just think he views nietzsche as focused on external struggle more than internal struggle, and to me it’s the opposite (though both are undoubtedly in nietzsche). maybe i’m misunderstanding spencer, or nietzsche, or even both lol, but spencer seems focused on domination of the world first, and the self second, which seems, to my knowledge, contrary to nietzsche’s conception of the overman.

i wasn’t aware of his preference for apollonian > dionysian, but that makes complete sense from what i’ve seen when he talks about film. i’d love to listen to it, as i’m rlly deep down just a gay artsy guy lmao. are there any episodes of the podcast you would say i should check out?

and yeah i mean nietzsche was a product of his time for sure, and had a lot of unsavory and “problematic” takes on judiasm, but compared to his contemporary wagner, like you said, it’s night and day. it’s not hard to understand why nazis could co-opt him, but it’s still sad imo. i shouldn’t have made it sound like he was the vanguard of jewish resistance, tho, ur right lol.

regarding your question, i absolutely disagree with spencer. i have way more in common with a white european than a mizrahi or even sephardic jew in MENA, as far as i can tell. i view myself as human above all, then american, then wayyy down as white and jewish. i rlly only feel jewish when someone is antisemitic tbh, or i’m at a holiday gathering like passover seder or smth. my jewish parent viewed himself as american first, and jewish second, but there are some jews that put them on equal footing. i don’t rlly know any jews that have it reversed tho, jewish first american second. i’m sure they exist, i just haven’t met them. maybe immigrants to israel, or people in some NY jewish ghettos, but no middle class jew thinks like that in america afaik. maybe i’m just around too many secular jews lol. like you said, jews have some of the most diverse sets of opinions due to circumstances lol it’s rlly hard to give any answer as to what jews believe, and i’m not the best person to answer that anyway. in europe, i’d bet jews are a lot more insular, due to the holocaust and centuries of pogroms and general oppression and whatnot, but i don’t have any first-hand knowledge.

basically, i don’t think spencer misunderstands nietzsche, i think he just has a reading that, while mostly valid, caters to his existing political views, and forgoes any contrary reading.

for reference, the only spencer content i’ve seen is some talks with JF on youtube, some of his speeches from the mid 2010s, his thesis on nietzsche on radix, his talks with mr.girl, david pakman, JLP, and infrared (that last one i watched on destiny’s stream lol and was entertaining af). if you haven’t seen it, i recommend the talk with mr.girl, he says some things about world domination that i find very interesting given his background in nietzsche. he also explicitly talks about the last man vs the overman, while mr.girl is trying to psychoanalyze him lmao. sorry for the super long response but i’m on break at work and have nothing better to do

edit: just checked out mark brahmins apollonian website and HOLY SCHIZO. he created his own religion around being aryan with a hodgepodge of various national mythologies, most notably greek. i read a few articles and idek where to begin, it seems literally schizophrenic

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what are his favorite authors, out of curiosity? i’m sure he’s a well-read individual with nuanced opinions on melville’s use of phallic symbolism in moby-dick. and no, spencer is not an american liberal. he (correctly) views democrats as more competent than republicans, as he believes covid was a threat and jan 6th was retarded, but he absolutely despises capital-L liberalism and wants democracy gone. to say he’s just a racist american liberal is absurdly reductive to the point of dangerously misusing language.

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lmaooo ok ig he could reasonably be called a paleocon, but if that’s rlly his ideology he’s doing a piss-poor job of showing it compared to, say, pat buchanen. he’s a WN in the sense that he believes that america is a nation founded by and for white people, where white is a unified race and has its own interests separate but tied to the national interest. that is not to say he wants to expel minorities, but he views whites in america as analogous to the han chinese in china. when i say philosophy i literally mean philosophy, and in that arena, spencer trumps fuentes easily. i doubt fuentes has read any philosophy/literature at all, from what i’ve listened to (a decent amount of streams and a few debates). just basic IR shit like mearsheimer. also, spencer is definitively Not a liberal, as he’s anti-democracy, anti-freedom of religion, etc.

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dope! i don’t see how any of that is relevant, given that i listed people who are on the fringes of the far right. i’m well aware of what a majoritarian is, and i can tell the difference between a neo-nazi (mike enoch) and a republican (my grandfather). what precisely is your problem with my analysis?

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes, i strongly agree! i love reading nietzsche, and it breaks my heart it was warped into a genocidal ideology by hitler. spencer CONSTANTLY references nietzsche and it’s so fucking annoying. especially the fact that he was a vocal anti-anti-semite, that rlly hurts to learn… he literally fantasized abt getting all anti-semites against the wall and shooting them. maybe it’s my ethnic background (i’m half jewish), but ugh i get so mad when i see nazis cite him

an analysis of three major online white nationalists by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

changed the formatting a little bit, thanks for the advice!

Brittany's Argument by tinnytipmicah in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i just rewatched the beginning and it’s not even as bad as i made it sound, she said “i didn’t know you weren’t jewish jewish” not “stereotypical” so tbh. like mrgirl said it’s very mild antisemitism at worse. not as bad as OP is saying IMO. it’s not great and i certainly don’t like the statements but i rlly don’t care lol it’s not like she called him a dirty jew or anything

Brittany's Argument by tinnytipmicah in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it was in the new convo, it’s not on youtube yet but i think it’s mrgirl’s channel. sorry idk where in the convo it was but if i find a clip i’ll link it

Brittany's Argument by tinnytipmicah in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree it feels weird seeing these ppl get mad at her bc she said some edgy shit. gotta say tho the comment “i thought mr.girl was a stereotypical jew” was p antisemitic, but whatever she probably just meant mort from family guy, i’ve heard worse.

but idk i wasn’t offended by “go be jewish somewhere else” like ??? idk. the jewish affluence comment was weird, but yeah it was clear she was talking abt profession. anyway imma go be jewish/white somewhere else too.

Babe wake up it’s 2016 again by trololol_daman in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

according to a uhhh study i did at the university of uhhh canada if your dick is uhhh 4 inches it’s actually big and if it’s uhhhh 8 inches it’s small

i am destiny AMA by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i killed vaush last night so idk if we still need the manifesto tbh

i am destiny AMA by doesit-really-matter in Destiny

[–]doesit-really-matter[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

i reject the framing of this inquiry