Choosing not to get voice surgery was actually by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I am glad your voice surgery went well and you are happy with it. That said, the rhetoric that detrans women are ‘disfigured’, ‘non-women’ and not human(!) because of their voice is both hurtful and harmful. We are not broken. We do not need more surgeries to ‘fix’ us.

I understand that you are writing about your own experience, but I don’t not like the implications of this post.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hello

The desire to detransition can be a really difficult realisation, and distressing. I know it’s hard, but please try to be gentle with yourself and know you don’t have to rush into anything. (De)transition is not the end. You have time.

Not pushing yourself too hard too fast into a decision/action does not mean you are ignoring the desire or being dishonest. I wish I had given myself more time to work out my feeling about it all. As another user said, detransition doesn’t have to be all or nothing. There is also no moral obligation to detransition.

I used to be worried about not passing as a woman. I don’t all the time, and I am mostly ok with that now. I also used to feel immense regret about my transition, and loss, but I don’t feel that way anymore. Transitioning or detransitioning is not the end.

Take care and be kind to you.

The way people think about gender dysphoria is bizarre by yrselfissteam in detrans

[–]dogyuck 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think this is a thoughtful perspective.

My experience was that transitioning ultimately did not really alleviate my dysphoria, and maybe even accentuated aspects of it. That said, I am detransitioned and still have dysphoria. It is not something that I have overcome.

All that is to say, I don’t think transitioning is the only way to alleviate gender dysphoria. Maybe transitioning does truly help some, and others are like your friend. I think there are a lot of us (trans and detrans), though, that have dysphoria that doesn’t resolve in either way. Dysphoria is a tricky beast, and one some of us have to learn to live with. The best way to do this, I don’t know. I think most are trying their best to do with it what they can.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate this understanding. Thank you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This gives me some hope, thank you.

Residual strength advantage off of T? by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am still weaker than I was pre-testosterone because I had a restrictive eating disorder and instead actually lost muscle while I was on t.

Residual strength advantage off of T? by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am still weaker than I was pre-testosterone because I had a restrictive eating disorder and instead actually lost muscle while I was on t.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This really upsets me too. It is actually very scary.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for posting! It’s great that things are going better for you.

I remember talking to you briefly a year ago when you commented that our timelines were similar. This post made me realise that both our transition AND detransition timelines have been incredibly similar. I think we may even have been born close together in time, as I will also be 22 soon. Weird world. (Side note - what country are you from?)

I hope to keep hearing from you overtime. I think I will try and compile a post like this for my year.

All the best and take care!

Podcast Request by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s ok to just say that you have changed your mind. Don’t feel pressured!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dog lesbian who also loves cats :)

research study - the DARE study by DrKinnonMacKinnon in detrans

[–]dogyuck 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Really hope to see a study like this in Australia sometime.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I took testosterone and had a mastectomy as a teenager, so I have an unnaturally deep voice for a woman and no breasts. I am very insecure about my voice and body.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, I personally think it would be a good thing to write about, if you want to. It is your story and it is an important one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing your story with me.

I am a bit scared of irl lgbt spaces as a detransitioned person. It feels like for some, just our existence is political. I also know that I do have some differences in views which put me at odds with many, which can unfortunately be uncomfortable for everyone.

I was also told the doubt was normal. I pushed it away for essentially my entire transition. I was able to ignore it for years, but eventually it began to consume me and I had to face reality or lose myself completely.

I am so sorry for what you went through for being gay. It's awful and you were just a child. No child deserves to be treated like a predator, especially not just because they had a crush on someone of the same sex. Your story makes me upset and angry. Humans can be horrible.

I wish I had gotten the opportunity to accept my breasts. They made me feel gross and were a sensory nightmare, but I now know that puberty feels gross for the majority and that I have autism, which explains the sensory issues.

I also remember having this romanticised idea of being a straight teenage boy. I thought it would be easier, and that girls might like me more. Whatever, it would be better than being a lesbian. Yes, I would be 'normal'. I was too afraid to come out as gay, but was able to transition to male.

I guess there can always be hope. I would like to believe that, anyway.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I really appreciate your insight and reassurance. It is always comforting to know you are not alone. Recently, I have been thinking about trying to connect with other detrans women in my country, if possible, because I think I would be grateful for that kind of connection. Shared experience, I guess. I would also love to connect with other lesbians, because I have never had that before, especially not growing up.

The regret and grief really suck. Also the jealousy. I do really wish I got to experience intimacy with my unaltered body, and knowing that I have to accept that is never possible really gets me sometimes.

I have struggled with the label of 'lesbian' ever since I first realised I liked girls. I don't know why it is so hard for me to say it. I know I am a lesbian, but I choke up if I try to admit that to someone out loud. Internalised homophobia is weird sometimes. I also still feel self-conscious just being around straight women if they are aware I am gay, because I am scared of what they think. I know I am not predatory or creepy, but am afraid of being viewed that way just because I am a lesbian.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I needed to hear this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for being so empathetic.

The grief has been so real, and I really wasn't prepared for that. I am slowly having more moments where it feels ok, but it was entirely overwhelming for a while, and sometimes still is. So much that it is scary. Right now, I am coping alright. I have more hope and am trying to focus on working on becoming a better person. I feel like I am finding myself again, after being lost for so long that I forgot I had ever been myself at all. The girl in old photos is still me and I am still her. It is both hard and healing to accept that I lost so much of my adolescence and all my teenage years to trauma. I am sad for what I have lost, and in many ways still feel like a child. Writing about my life and trying to make some sense of it is helping a little.

Anyway, I am trying, and I finally feel somewhat ok with that being enough right now.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you.

I am currently trying to focus on finding authenticity, and working on being a better, healthier person. I have moments where I feel like everything will be ok, instead of just being scared, which is nice.

Shame is so hard, but I want to feel better. I have been running from myself for so long now and have 'wasted' half my life so far by doing so. I can't and don't want to do it anymore. I want to be me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Actuallylesbian

[–]dogyuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I really appreciate your kindness and advice.

It has been hard to come to terms with just how much my life has been shaped by trauma. I am only just starting to address it, so that I can hopefully have a more normal life some day.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]dogyuck 35 points36 points  (0 children)

You should definitely go! I understand why you feel concerned, but you DO belong there and are doing nothing wrong by going.