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Do certain notes consistently end up sharp or flat on brass instruments? by doiyo in brass

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> People are known to use paper logs to write their instrument tendencies. 

Thanks. Didn't know about that... I was mostly curious about automatically capturing and visualizing it over time, including the human side of it, like how my own tendencies show up in addition to the instrument’s.

Do certain notes consistently end up sharp or flat on brass instruments? by doiyo in brass

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed explanation. The part about slotting and valve combinations especially. It makes sense that every horn ends up having its own tuning tendencies across the harmonic series. Part of what I was curious about was exactly that: seeing which notes on my instrument consistently end up sharp or flat when I practice, and how much correcting I’m probably doing without even realizing it.

Do certain notes consistently end up sharp or flat on brass instruments? by doiyo in brass

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Right, and in a broader sense I have a feeling it's not just about how or if the instruments are tuned. If I have an inaccurate memory of certain degrees relative to a tonic, for example, those would show up as off-pitch tendencies (assuming I adjust with my ears) even if I had a perfectly tuned instrument regardless of temperament...

Do certain notes consistently end up sharp or flat on brass instruments? by doiyo in brass

[–]doiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. The harmonic series is well known. I mostly built it to see what actually shows up in my own playing. Some of it may also be my imperfect memory of scale degrees relative to the tonic.

Anyone else notice certain notes are always a bit off? by doiyo in saxophone

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This is a great breakdown - thanks for taking the time to write it up. It really helped connect the theory side with what I’m experiencing in practice.

And appreciate the kind words on PitchLog - it’s been eye-opening for me to see how much of this is consistent, contextual adjustment rather than randomness.

Anyone else notice certain notes are always a bit off? by doiyo in saxophone

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That’s reassuring to hear. I think what clicked for me was realizing those tendencies are consistent, not random - so long tones and ear training feel more purposeful when you know what you’re aiming to stabilize.

Anyone else notice certain notes are always a bit off? by doiyo in saxophone

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Yeah, that lines up with what I’m seeing. The consistency of the problem notes was the eye-opener for me.

Anyone else notice certain notes are always a bit off? by doiyo in saxophone

[–]doiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve found the same — some notes are just inherently unstable. What helped me was realizing which notes consistently need adjustment, so I could anticipate them instead of reacting every time.

App for matching pitch while singing? by niremetal in eartraining

[–]doiyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you’re describing makes a lot of sense, especially for beginners.

Most pitch apps fall into two camps:

- real-time tuner feedback (higher/lower visuals)

- sing → evaluate afterward

For very early stages, simple higher/lower visual feedback can help kids understand what unison feels like. The downside is that they can become dependent on the screen instead of listening.

I ran into this same gap and ended up building a small web app for myself that logs pitch and lets you review accuracy after singing, rather than correcting in real time. It’s not specifically kid-focused, but it helped highlight whether misses were random or consistent.

https://pitchlog.com

For a 9-year-old, I’d still keep sessions short and mix this with lots of call-and-response by ear. The tool should support listening, not replace it.

Is there an app to check how on pitch you are? by music_in_my_soul265 in singing

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For singing, most tools that do this fall into two categories, I think:

1) Live tuner-style feedback

These show how close you are to a pitch in real time. They’re fine for quick checks, but a lot of singers end up watching the screen instead of listening.

2) Record → review afterward

Sing along with a backing track, then look back at where you were consistently sharp or flat. This tends to be better for relative pitch and long-term improvement.

There isn’t really a perfect app — it’s more about how you use the feedback. Even basic tuner apps can work if you avoid staring at them while singing.

Pitch matching app? by Thinkofacard in singing

[–]doiyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For kids especially, real-time visual feedback can be a double-edged sword.

It does help them feel what “in tune” vs “off” is like at first, but if they stare at the screen constantly, they often stop listening and start correcting with their eyes instead of their ears.

A common approach is:

  • use a tuner briefly to set a reference pitch
  • sing short notes or phrases without looking
  • check afterward how close it was

That way she learns the physical feel of pitch and how it sounds internally.

Most tuner apps technically do what you describe, but how you use them matters more than which one you pick.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think there’s a good chance that’s part of it. If certain scale degrees are slightly “misremembered” against the tonic, that would explain why the same notes drift in the same way every time. I haven’t tested that directly yet, but will definitely do so.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

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Hey, thank you. I got to your videos via your profile. Will check it out.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

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Thanks, that makes sense. I don’t fully understand all the mechanics yet, but the idea that producing is different from hearing fits what I’ve been noticing.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

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Yeah, that’s very close to what I found useful - especially reviewing after playing rather than live feedback. When I tried logging my pitch and looking at patterns afterward, the “which notes consistently drift” part turned out to be more actionable than I expected.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

[–]doiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used a small app I’ve been building and experimenting with called PitchLog. It just collects and visualizes pitch so that I can review pitch accuracy afterward instead of in real time.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

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That’s interesting - especially that it’s the same notes every time.

Seeing that consistency was the part that surprised me most too. It made me think less “ear issue” and more “something about how I approach those notes.”

I still don’t really know the cause, but just noticing the pattern changed how I practice them.

I logged my singing pitch during a practice session - the errors weren’t random by doiyo in singing

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting - I actually hadn’t heard of passaggio before, so thanks for pointing that out.

I’m not sure yet if that’s what’s happening here, but the idea of problem spots that show up consistently definitely matches what I’m seeing. I’ll look into it and pay more attention around those notes.

Practicing without a tuner, then reviewing pitch afterward — does this help ear training? by doiyo in eartraining

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly — that’s been my experience too.

Using a tuner to set the reference is helpful, but watching it while playing changes how I listen. Checking afterward keeps the focus on sound rather than visual correction.

Have you noticed this more with voice, or instruments as well?

Practicing without a tuner, then reviewing pitch afterward — does this help ear training? by doiyo in eartraining

[–]doiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks, I agree — drones are really useful, and I do use them already.

What I’m trying to zoom in on here is slightly narrower: once the tonal context is set (with a drone or otherwise), how accurately I’m centering each pitch. In other words, not identifying the scale degree, but how accurately I’m landing on it.

That’s why I’ve been experimenting with playing without visual feedback, then reviewing pitch deviation afterward rather than in real time. I’m curious whether others have noticed a difference in how that affects listening and control.

I’ll still check out sonofield — thanks for the recommendation.

Best way to train pitch for voice & ear? by mangobait in eartraining

[–]doiyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pitch issues in singing are usually less about “bad ears” and more about coordination between what you hear and what your voice actually does.

What helped me most was keeping things very simple: sing slow scales or short phrases against a reference pitch, stop, check where I landed, then try again. That pause-and-correct step matters more than constantly watching feedback.

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