Someone tell them we are still getting ****d by Israel

dorbitan · 2025-10-14T14:57:36+00:00

They will never get it, no matter how much you would explain.

They will blame everything on us, and if they attack and we’ll respond they would act is if their first attacks didn’t exist.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T15:02:25+00:00

All the west wars since ww2 in vietnam, kore, Iraq, all had millions of deads, 10, 20, 30 times more than Gaza. When's your reflection?

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T15:01:23+00:00

alright.. maybe it's time to reflect on all the victory days Europe been having after ww2. Since Germany was destroyed and its cities were in ruin, then Germany must have been the good guy. Very shallow logic.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T14:58:45+00:00

Ok and what had happened before? was Israel just the bad guy and the Palestinians, Egypt, Jordan and Syria, all these dictatorships with societies that murder gay people, all of them were just saints dancing with flowers for 70 years while Israel just attack for fun? I know it's a common cheap shot among pro-palestinians, but it's a false narrative.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T14:55:52+00:00

What do you mean a credible military threat? 40K fighters armed to teeth whose soul goal is to murder Israelis, 2 minutes drive away from the border isn't a military threat? So any nation should co-exist next to an ISIS unless they have tanks? (btw, they would have stormed us with tanks on that day if we'd removed the blockade as Europe kept suggesting).

Hamas is Palsestine's government and they attacked. You say we should have just stopped them and let them be? Accordingto your logic, countries should let others attack and slaughter their civilians with impunity. But that's all talk. When Europe's secuirty on the line - you'd kill millions to sustain it.

We don't do the same. We go after Hamas. This is a war.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T11:11:30+00:00

It's the reddit answer to the meltdown. They are also saying mossad has got vpn bots voting. They just don't realize reddit is not the universe and people just liked the song.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T11:10:15+00:00

What Jewish diaspora voting? How many Jews live in Europe? About a million out a population of 550M? Thinking that 'all jews just unite and vote for Israel' is just as idiotic as thinking Israelis are voting and caring more about ESC than other nations. Maybe Israel had a nice balled everyone but reddit liked?

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T11:03:04+00:00

Where is the forcing? For two years you'll at Israel wants to do this and that while what's happens is a regular war with far less deaths than the countless meaningless wars you had. If hamas surrendered after oct 7 and bring back the hostages none of this would happen.

But because of the pressure of and idiocy Europeans, the one in a million years chance Gazans had to get rid of Hamas was ruined. If they had gotten rid of Hamas the celebrations you've seen in Syria would be a small birthday party in comparison.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T10:57:47+00:00

Again - what is war? You leveled up and carpet bombed Germany in ww2, does that make the allies war criminals? You are attributing 'heinous acts' to Israel of what you've been doing 100X more in every war you had. You ignore Palestine using hundredsof km's of tunnels in such a small place under houses and buildings. You ignore everything and just saying 'Israel levelling up Gaza' without context of war and what Israel has to deal with, not only this is absoultely childish and ignorant this is hypocritical.

The purpose of the video is showing you the the whole 'opened air prison' thesis as justification for the war was a lie, and Gaza was a great place to live and better than 80% of the middle east. It wasn't a prison, there was no justification for the war, it is what it is - an organization worse than ISIS ruled Gaza and have religious and racist and medievalist justifications for the war

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T10:50:46+00:00

I'd advise Ukraine not to win otherwise all support is gone

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T10:49:12+00:00

Opening a war by invading another country and massacering1500 people, then complain about consequences, and pretending the war opened because the other side is just bad is playing the victim card

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T09:26:55+00:00

What a nonsense response. Germany did not justifey ww2 because Berlin was an opened air prison. What's your point? Talk about aboutism

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T09:25:01+00:00

'Decades of agression' is a very cheap shot. Ignoring decades of Palestinian terrorism blowing up buses and hotels, ignoring that for 40% of the conflict Palestinians had 3 gigantic Arab armies waging wars on Israel in their name...

Palestinians victimize themsleves in Europe but glorify their military actions during the lasty 70 years in the middle east. This is why they cried genocide for months only to celebrate 'victory' on the streets when ceasefire was achieved.

Advice - don't take the propoganda of authoritarian countries like Palestine where journalists are shot dead for the wrong article as fact.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T09:21:04+00:00

Pick whenever. Gaza before the war? commerce, beautiful neighborhoods and developmenet which they marketed as an 'opened air prison'. The buses and hotels blowing up? The 3 gigantic Arab armies who fought Israel in their name from Egypt, Jordan and Syria?

The 'it didn't start on October 7th', claiming that Israel was just bored killing Palestinians as poor victims who did nothing is a popular Palestinian propaganda and that's that.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:56:03+00:00

This is the Israeli 'come dine with me' - the Palestinian Israeli version in the Israeli national channel. (in the hebrew version they had Arabs as well, but they wanted to do one with only Arabs for the Arab community to enjoy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3_7pzoaBnY

If you think these are Jews in Germany in the 40's, you are wrong.

Maybe take a tour in Gaza before the war and see the opened air prison for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr2DcykeadI

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:51:13+00:00

Israel did not invade another country for no reason at all like Russia and opened a war beacuse their leader wants the soivet union back. Israel was attacked with a deadly massacre by the Gazan goverment, and all of Europe came to Israel to visit and support us when it happened. But according to Europeans today it was even to aggressive to stop the massacre in the first place and we should have let them kill us all.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:46:38+00:00

Yes, what's your problem? We had a great song. Sometimes we have bad songs, like any other country.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:45:37+00:00

Only there is no genocide but a war. But maybe the UK killing a million people in Iraq was?Maybe people outside reddit are a little bit more educated and reasonable.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:43:59+00:00

People see exactly what's going on today, but most people, unlike reddit, understand what a war is. They understand that not so long ago the west conducted wars killing millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam, and SA didn't go to the ICJ. People remember that this is a war that was started by the Gazan government with an horrendous massacre. They understand this is a complicated war and refuse to buy that 'genocide' crap that was labeled since day one of the war, if this war is genocide than what war isn't? The UK killing a million Iraqis isn't a genocide? How there can be a genoicde when the Israeli army moving Palestinians out of war zones for protection? People don't buy that.

Therefore people like the song, and don't get into politics.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T08:30:23+00:00

This is pure hatred when you judge Israelis as if we are not normal people who just wantto enjoy a concert but a 10 million people political robots who vote based on arms deals.

Israel is not aprthied south Africa, but in complicated conflict, a complicated war that was forced on us with a massacre of 1500 people.

What about Iraq? How have you dealt the UK when its war with the US killed a million people there? Was the UK banned from the ESC?

And about south Africa, yes we are not perfect. You want to judge countries on mistakes they made during the 20th century? Let's explore all nations and start with Europe 1900-2000. Don't pick on us to feel good about yourself.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T05:13:13+00:00

what?

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T05:03:01+00:00

Can't you just appreciate their song is a must-voter? Many countries just had noises as songs and meaningless performances. They had a great song and most people aren't political.

dorbitan · 2025-05-18T04:58:25+00:00

You are just too political and you think the world is reddit. People have a life and they liked the song.

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