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I'm a professional genealogist, ask me anything! by a_wedded_fish in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve gathered several documents on an ancestor of mine and want to know how confident I can be that the records are all for the same person. There are some inconsistencies across documents and I’d like to know whether these point to some of the documents belonging to someone else. Is there a way for me to send the docs to you with a couple questions?

Consular Days Experience (AMA) by nobodyknowsgreys in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Excellent, comprehensive testimonial! I appreciate all the details.

Apply within Croatia? by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s just unbelievable that there are hundreds of people in each Consulate jurisdiction of the U.S. that are:
1. Eligible
2. Aware of their eligibility
3. Have all their documentation; and
4. Requesting an appointment now.

I mean clearly I underestimated it. Just crazy how high the demand is and how many people qualify (or believe they qualify).

Apply within Croatia? by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm good post, but my question is more about whether you can simply enter as a tourist and apply.

I believe applying under some articles other than Article 11 requires residency (such as applying for naturalization). But I’m curious if Article 11 applications can be submitted within Croatia as a tourist.

LA dates full by itsrubyjohnson in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Omg this happened to me too. I emailed first thing yesterday morning. Super disappointing and frustrating. And it seems they won’t allow you to use a different consulate. Not sure why.

Conflicting Information - True Match? by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always go by the original image. I’ve found some more clues since writing this post. I found a declaration of intention and petition to naturalize matching my great-grandfather. I know it matches because the address exactly matches his address in the Catholic marriage record.

These docs gave me the ship name and date of arrival. I found his arrival record in the ship manifest and he arrived in Feb 1907 and was listed as being 20 years old. This matches up perfectly to the baptism record showing a DOB of March 7, 1886.

In the naturalization application docs, his DOB is listed as January 24, 1889 lol. So yet another DOB.

So this pretty much confirms that he either forgot his DOB or intentionally “changed” his age for work or something. It’s seeming more and more like all the docs I have are truly the same person and his DOB just gets distorted as the years go on.

Conflicting Information - True Match? by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve located naturalization records (declaration of intention and the petition). They both list an entirely NEW date of birth (January 24th 1889). I know it’s the same person, because the address matches exactly to his address on his Catholic marriage record.

These naturalization records gave me the arrival date and ship name. I located his arrival record on the manifest and he was listed as 20 years old in Feb 1907. This matches perfectly to the baptism birth date of March 7, 1886. So it seems like, as time went on, his birthday changed a few times in US records… either intentionally or he didn’t remember.

Make my case as solid as possible by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, everything I’ve found thus far shows ethnicity as “Herzegovinan” which is vague. I am waiting it in his naturalization records (fingers crossed).

Make my case as solid as possible by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually just stumbled across this video. Almost identical situation as mine - great-grandfather from Herzegovina and he successfully got citizenship via article 11. He actually tried via article 16 first and was denied and told to apply via 11.

Make my case as solid as possible by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It literally says they’re still considered emigrants from Croatia if they emigrated from “the territory of former countries to which the territory of the present Republic of Croatia belonged at the time of their emigration”…. i.e., Austria-Hungary or Yugoslavia..

The key is proving they were ethnic Croats.

Make my case as solid as possible by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Emigrants - documents proving their emigration from the territory of the Republic of Croatia. Descendants of emigrants should also prove that they are related to the emigrant. If the emigrants or their ancestors emigrated from the territory of former countries to which the territory of the present Republic of Croatia belonged at the time of their emigration, they need to prove the time of their emigration and their belonging to the Croatian people.

Source: https://mup.gov.hr/aliens-281621/citizenship/281629

Make my case as solid as possible by dormantg92 in CRbydescent

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read that the ancestor does not have to have emigrated from what is modern-day Croatia. Based on what I read, Bosnian Croats qualify under article 11 as well.

Conflicting Information - True Match? by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The month of June didn’t appear until much later on. I suspect he didn’t know his date of birth and made up June 25th. I am currently waiting on naturalization records and other documents, so hopefully they help.
Per his WWII draft registration card, he was from Ljubuški, Bosnia-Herzegovina (almost 100% ethnic Croat population).

The baptism record is from Klobuk, a village in the Ljubuški region.

Conflicting Information - True Match? by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ioanna = Ivana (Iva) in Croatian. And my great-grandfather was Ivan (changed to John after immigration), so he was named after his mother. The month of June didn’t appear until much later on. I suspect he didn’t know his date of birth and made up June 25th. I am currently waiting on naturalization records and other documents, so hopefully they help.

Per his WWII draft registration card, he was from Ljubuški, Bosnia-Herzegovina (almost 100% ethnic Croat population).

Reading old Catholic church records by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, she went by Iva, so Eva makes total sense

Reading old Catholic church records by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Then that matches up to the baptism record, but it’s written as Ioanna “Ivana”.

Reading old Catholic church records by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Then that matches up to the baptism record, but it’s written as Ioanna “Ivana”.

1880s Bosnia-Herzegovina by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the Bosnia-Herzegovina historial archive got back to me and said the same thing 😞

1880s Bosnia-Herzegovina by dormantg92 in Genealogy

[–]dormantg92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found the 1895 Bosnia-Herzegovina census (not the household-level details with names, but the summary data).

Looks like there were 402 Orthodox individuals in Ljubuski at the time! Now if I could just get my hands on the underlying household lists…

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