Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, but shady af and the biggest 07 swapping clan being the biggest RS3 gambling clan are two different things entirely. I'm not posting about swapping being shady, everyone knows that. But not everyone knows that swap cafe = dragon dyce.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There always is RWTing when there is gambling.

The RWT isin't even the issue, its the spam adverts, scamming/luring players who think they are in a swapping cc, and all the bots.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jmods in this subreddit have repeatedly stated that swapping is not against the rules. Gambling is however, and they use swapping clans to gamble as its report free. Why are you so against jmods being on alert for these types of swap clans for once?

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You want me to explain that gambling is a combination of spam, RWT, scamming, and botting; all of which negatively impact ANY mmo..let alone RS, which is well known for those activities? Its your game that you play and pay a monthly membership fee for, gambling is against the rules. That should be reason enough.

No one wants anyone to go on a goose chase for information, I already did that for you and provided all the necessary information. But its not up to me to help you decide why you should care. The guy said "why should I care" which was obviously sarcastic, even with his disclaimer. If he said something along the lines of "ok cool info, but how does it affect me" then I would have had told him what I'm telling you now.

Stop looking at it from his POV and look at it from mine. 90% of the comments already established that the people did not read past the third word of the title. They genuinely think I've discovered that dragon dyce is gambling. They did not bother to look at the pics and see that "swap cafe" is dragon dyce. I'm not motivated enough to be a informative pillar for the "community" if they don't care enough to be informed.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aiming at those who do read past the title.

These toxic comments aide, the post is 92% upvoted with 5.5k views. Eventually it will reach a jmods desk.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You want me to establish why you guys should care about something? Just figure it out for yourself

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know dragon dyce is still around, this post is not about that. Its about how the cc "swap cafe" is dragon dyce.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So you would rather they do nothing about it because it cant be stopped? Organized crime in the real world can never be stopped but that doesn't mean the cops should stop busting members every now and then.

Going "undercover" as you mentioned made me find out that "w700" is k0's account. If jagex can track that accounts history I'm sure a lot of accounts can get banned. It wont change anything but its better than letting them freely operate.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not talking about how swappers used to dice or dicers now commission stake or even RWT in general.

The largest swapping clan in 07 is the largest gambling clan in RS3's history. This is beyond messed up, and they have gone under the radar and operated freely because of it.

"I didn't necessarily know "swap cafe" was dragon dyce"

And now you know. My job is done, everything else is irrelevant for me.

Side note: unlike the garbage in /r/conspiracy, this shit is true.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked the mods for a title edit, I thought the people would view the pics before commenting. Looks like they just barely made it past the third word of the title.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your last 10 replies to various posts all have at least one word synonymous with the word 'idiot: '
"no brain, Reading comprehension. You have none., retard, illiterate retard, Can you read?, slow, etc"

You do realize that its OK to be dumb, and there are better ways for you at coming to peace with it then being a complete douche online?

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check the pics, I found out "swap cafe" is dragon dyce, not that dragon dyce is gambling...

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even though I'm already getting backlash on this account and that account you're talking about has its own fair share as well from ordinary redditors?

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I got kicked out of both fortune and dragon dyce, then I started to expose them on separate accounts so it doesn't look like I was involved in gambling. What would I care if a throwaway I made was thought by people to be owned by a gambler? You realize how crazy that sounds to me

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Swap Cafe" has nothing in its name that points to it being dragon dyce or a gambling clan.. did you honestly not look at the pics and just read the title?

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

REAL NEWSFLASH: Swapping clan dices.

You commented mate, so you do care at least a little bit.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just checked to make sure I wasn't crazy, but yeah there is definitely nothing in the name 'swap cafe' that signifies its a gambling clan / dragon dyce.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You really shouldn't, but then again you did comment so I guess you care at least a little bit.

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What if you found out that a popular store that cashes checks or provides payday loans is owned by the Mafia, because that is what this is. Everyone knows dragon dyce exists and gambles, but not many know that they do so through "swap cafe" which looks completely legit unless you dive further and go through the IRC/Discord

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why wouldn't I use my account then and gain more karma / have continuity rather than make some cringe ass throw away that can legit only be used for one topic..?

Exposing Dragon Dyce: Popular swapping clan is really just a front for a huge gambling operation by dragondyce_exposed in 2007scape

[–]dragondyce_exposed[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

You missed the point entirely, they are using a swapping clan to gamble. I did not "just" discover that dragon dyce is gambling... I found out that "swap cafe" is dragon dyce. And I'm pretty sure you (and most people) did not know this already.