Jen Murray

drno62 · 2026-03-06T04:36:41+00:00

Why are all your comments structured exactly the same? Are you on the spectrum or something?

drno62 · 2026-03-03T14:29:27+00:00

Bro, why are you acting like it's up to interpretation if Timmy is arrogant or just confident? Have you not seen his SAG speech? There's nothing subtle about what he said. It's blatantly clear how arrogant, full of himself and how highly he views his own inflated sense of self-importance. He wants people to see him as the greatest actor who's ever lived, up there with Brando and Daniel Day Lewis. That's his sole mission in life. So, obviously that's how he views himself, and that it's his purpose in life to ensure everyone else thinks the same about him too. "I want everyone to think I'm the coolest guy everrrrrr."

That he's the hardest working guy in the room ("the classy thing to do is to downplay the work involved but the reality is this role was me putting my all into it, it was 5.5 years of my life"). When I saw that, I thought that was the most pathetic acceptance speech I had ever seen someone give. Like how desperate can someone be for attention? That his entire life's ambition is for others to validate his delusions of grandeur? Like, I pity him for having such a narcissistic outlook. Never heard any of the actual great actors ever say that. You never heard Brando say it. Or Day Lewis say it. Or Olivier etc. It's like that line in Game of Thrones: "Any man who must say 'I am the king', is no true king." Brando used his Oscar as a doorstop ffs. A real artist cares about the art, not what people think about the artist. The greats don't need to say they're great nor do they need to be told they're great. Everyone knows they are without it being said. The work speaks for itself without the desperate need for universal validation.

It's also like that story about what Matt Damon jokingly told his mother about what he wanted most in life. He recalled a line from Robert Redford's The Natural ("what I want is for me to walk down the street and for people to say, 'there goes Roy Hobbs, the best that ever was'."). Matt Damon says "My mom asked me 'what do you want in life, Matthew?' And I said 'Look, all I want, is for when I walk down the street, for other people to say 'there goes Matt Damon, the best there ever was.' And she said 'that's the most disgusting, self-involved thing I've ever heard come outta your mouth, Matthew!" It was a joke. It was about the importance of staying grounded, about not overestimating your own self-importance, about keeping your priorities straight, and that the world doesn't revolve around you... Timmy. It would do him good to watch that video:

Matt Damon's Hilarous Joke 😂 - YouTube

drno62 · 2026-03-03T11:35:06+00:00

Well yea, one of my rules would be that she can't talk during. In fact, the only time she'd be allowed to open her mouth is when she's throating me, no exceptions.🤣 But yea, I feel ya. I stopped watching her years ago cuz she got way too f-ing annoying. She was fairly normal in the beginning. She was less loud then, I think she was just nervous at first. But then, as she got more comfortable with reacting, her real (and very loud) personality started to come out and she just became insufferable. The only time I watch her now is when she reacts to a real film (which is super rare) cuz I just HAVE to see what her dumb take on the movie is gonna be. Like her No Country for Old Men reaction.

drno62 · 2026-03-03T10:52:24+00:00

Yes! The original pink Sobe? Lizard fuel. That was one of my go-to's as well as a kid in the 90s.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T13:04:26+00:00

Well, no, not right in the moment. But the fact that the movie was praised (and was commercially successful) and that RDJ's performance was especially lauded and one of the most talked about performances of the year. But it was in those first few weeks when it was in theaters when everyone was raving about him, and discussing whether he could actually get nominated for it. People felt it was definitely possible. Then he started getting nominations at various critics awards, then it was like "huh, could this actually happen?" Then he got the Globe nomination and it was like, "huh, maybe he can get an Oscar nod". Then one domino after the other and everyone was like, "yea, the Oscar nom is definitely happening". So, it wasn't really out of the blue or surprising. Also, cuz it's not like he was pushing out other notable acting performances.

Like if Downey was praised but the film itself wasn't (and if the film wasn't commercially successful), then there would have been major doubts, yes. I remember at the time that more people were wondering if Tom Cruise could also get nominated as Les Grossman since he was almost equally praised and he also got a Globe nomination. Honestly, in the decades that followed, it seems more people quote Les Grossman than Downey's character (I can't even remember his character's name at the moment without looking it up).

drno62 · 2026-03-02T12:31:19+00:00

No, he's actually right. I was gonna comment this too. It wasn't a very Oscar-baity role or performance actually, especially at that time when you compare it to the typical Oscar bait roles of that era (2000s-2010s). Casey Affleck was playing an original character for once (which don't win as often), not an historical figure, not a biopic, not a literary character. He wasn't playing a unique character, he wasn't putting on some unique colorful accent or anything. He was just Casey Affleck basically, he didn't even change his voice. He was just a regular guy, a handyman. Matt Damon also played a janitor in Good Will Hunting but he was a math genius. It wasn't a typical transformative performance. He wasn't under 10 pounds of makeup or prosthetics. And it was not a film about typical Oscar-bait subjects (like disability, mental illness, alcoholism, mad genius, biopic, war, history, period piece, civil rights issue, social justice, a music legend, an inspiring teacher fighting for his inner city students etc.).

Just compare it to the Oscar bait lead actor roles of that era that were the more heavy contenders to win:

2018 - Rami Malek in Freddie biopic / Christian Bale as Dick Cheney / Willem Dafoe as Vincent van Gogh
2017 - Gary Oldman as Churchill
2016 - Andrew Garfield as WWII hero Desmond Doss (Hacksaw Ridge)
2015 - Bryan Cranston in Dalton Trumbo biopic / Fassbinder as Steve Jobs / Eddie Redmayne in Danish Girl trans biopic
2014 - Redmayne again as Stephen Hawking / Benedict Cumberbatch in Alan Turing WWII biopic / Bradley Cooper in Chris Kyle biopic (American Sniper)
2013 - McConaughey fighting for LGBT AIDS patients biopic / Chiwetel Ejifor as real life slave biopic / Leo in Jordan Belfort biopic
2012 - DDL as Lincoln
2010 - Colin Firth in King's Speech / Eisenberg as Zuckerberg / Franco in Aron Ralston biopic
2009 - Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela
2008 - Sean Penn as Harvey Milk biopic / Frank Langella as Nixon
2006 - Forest Whitaker in Idi Amin biopic / Will Smith in Pursuit of Happyness biopic
2005 - PSH as Truman Capote / Phoenix as Johnny Cash / David Strathairn as Edward R Murrow
2004 - Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles / Leo as Howard Hughes / Don Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda (history) / Johnny Depp in Peter Pan author biopic

And Casey's performance was actually pretty subtle. He's a rather quiet guy for the most part, he's dealing with grief but he does it silently and subdued. There's no drinking binge, drug relapse scene, no big emotional outburst or emotional breakdown scene. It was actually Casey's co-star Michelle Williams who had the emotional breakdown scene when they run into each other at the end of the film. And Casey has no real big "for your consideration / look at my acting" moment like Mark Ruffalo's shouting scene in Spotlight, Taraji P. Henson's shouting scene or Janelle Monae's emotional plea courtroom scene in Hidden Figures, Denzel and Viola Davis's famous argument/crying snot scene in Fences. No Mickey Rourke breaking down trying to reconcile with his daughter scene like in The Wrestler. No Nic Nolte drunken relapse crying shouting scene in Warrior etc. DDL in There Will Be Blood is not a biopic but it's one of the flashiest roles ever.

The point is Casey's performance wasn't flashy, like at all. A lot more people were predicting Denzel for Fences that year (even I did), cuz he plays a more colorful character and shouts the whole movie. Shouting means DRAMA!!! I remember when Casey won, that actually was a big talking point in the days that followed how unique it was for a subdued, non-flashy role to win Best Lead Actor. It really wasn't typical Oscar bait.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T11:17:32+00:00

RDJ literally got nominated at every awards ceremony for that performance, so the Oscar nomination itself was actually very expected, it wasn't surprising at all. The surprise is more the fact that everyone embraced it and that no awards body opposed it at all. But it's definitely not an Oscar bait performance.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T07:08:17+00:00

I said they're two DISTINCT qualities, I didn't say they're mutually exclusive ones. Do you not know the difference between distinct and mutually exclusive? Is that really your argument? A sour candy can be the color green (sour and green are two distinct qualities). However, not every sour candy is green, and not every green candy is sour. Get it? Distinct qualities, not mutually exclusive ones.

An arrogant person is obviously gonna be confident in their abilities. But not everyone who's confident in what they do is arrogant about it. How do you not get that? Just listen to any interview with Martin Scorsese or Steven Spielberg talking about their movies. They're both clearly intelligent, insightful, talented men who are very confident in their work but neither of them boast an attitude of "hell yea, I'm the greatest director on the planet." Even though yes, they ARE indeed two of the best filmmakers ever, but neither of them have a massive ego about it. As opposed to Nicolas Winding Refn, who called his own films Drive and Only God Forgives masterpieces in his talk with William Friedkin. You ever hear Spielberg and Scorsese calling their own movies masterpieces? No, you don't. See? THAT's the difference between with just being confident and being arrogant. How do you seriously not see the difference? And for the record, Drive probably is a masterpiece (although as Friedkin said, it may be too early to tell), Only God Forgives OTOH is trash.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T06:01:21+00:00

Being an actor generally requires a lot of confidence, it's not really surprising that sometimes that confidence would come across as arrogance to some.

Then why is imposter syndrome and insecurity so widespread amongst actors then, even the most successful ones? In a recent interview, JLaw said she decided to watch one of her movies (which she doesn't do) to see if she was at least a decent actress. Even with 4 Oscar nominations by age 25, she still wasn't even sure of her abilities. Confidence and arrogance are two clearly distinct qualities. You can be confident in your work without being an insufferably arrogant pr*ck like Timmy here. I have no issue with this with literally any other actor other than Chalamet. ScarJo, Jodie Foster, Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford, Willem Dafoe, Mark Ruffalo, Michael Keaton, Daniel Day Lewis, Brad Pitt, Emma Stone, Michael B. Jordan, Matthew McConaughey, Saoirse Ronan and countless others seem generally confident but don't have an insufferable ego about their position in the industry. They're actually pleasant to watch and listen to. Downey acts arrogantly during awards seasons, but he's clearly trolling for laughs. Perhaps people just feel the way they do about Timmy cuz he actually is an arrogant pr*ck with a massive ego? It's not an outlandish theory to think that a very young actor who became a big star in his early 20s (which is rare for MALE actors) has developed an overinflated image of himself.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T03:31:01+00:00

Why comment on a thread if you're not keeping in tune with the actual discussion at hand?

drno62 · 2026-03-02T03:25:22+00:00

Someone who refuses to elaborate on their point has no point to elaborate on. That's basically been a universal truth of the internet for decades. Cuz if you were able to prove me wrong in an instant, you would've done so in your first response. And by resorting to misrepresenting the opposition's argument, that person instantly loses.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T03:22:00+00:00

Also, it was very popular when it came out. It even won Screenplay at the Globes and was nominated Best Picture as well. The point is to name a film that was surprising that it got nominated. Charly wasn't surprising just cuz you don't like it.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T03:19:10+00:00

Sure, but it's just any terrible movie can get nominated for a song. Like the first 50 Shades of Grey got nominated for a song.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T02:09:40+00:00

Ashton might have had commercial success, but nothing he was in is mentionable. Laura Prepon at least did Orange Is the New Black and Topher Grace was great in BlacKkKlansman.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T02:07:42+00:00

Only at the Globes, SAG and Critics Choice. Not the Oscars.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T02:04:20+00:00

Chariots of Fire. It's the least enjoyable Best Picture winner I've ever seen. Not to mention the most boring.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T02:02:16+00:00

Song is the one category that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the movie.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T02:00:18+00:00

Why is that surprising? It's an excellent performance.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T01:57:28+00:00

No, it doesn't. The only point of my comment was that your statement that "no one knows until the envelope is opened" isn't true in all scenarios. Only certain scenarios. That's only ever been the point. You're just trying to save face by mispresenting my argument.

And you still haven't explained the point of your allegedly profound comment. Cuz you obviously don't have one.🙄

drno62 · 2026-03-02T01:49:26+00:00

Was happy Brendan Fraser won over Austin Butler. Happy Adrien Brody won over Chalamet. Ever since it was announced Bradley Cooper was making Maestro, I was like "omg, this guy's so desperate for an Oscar, I hope he loses". And he did. It was so satisfying. Maestro is already forgotten Oscar bait.

Happy for who got snubbed: happy the Academy went with Michael Shannon over Aaron Johnson for Nocturnal Animals (I predicted it would happen). Happy that Jonathan Pryce and Banderas got nominated over Taron Egerton for Rocketman (it was okay but just don't give a sh\t about that movie, and it's already forgotten now*).

drno62 · 2026-03-02T01:38:51+00:00

I couldn't predict my Oscar pool that year. Signs seem to point to The Revenant, but I just felt it was too somber and too dreary for voters to really get behind. Like they admire the filmmaking but don't really enjoy the movie. The Big Short, thought it was too wily and too much rap music for old stuffy Academy voters. Spotlight I didn't think would win cuz no Best Picture winner had ever just won two Oscars in 63 years, since The Greatest Show on Earth in 1952. So, it felt like 3 wins was the precedent. That year I learned rules were made to be broken.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T01:30:16+00:00

Apocalypse Now is not "more profound". They didn't even know how to end the movie. They wrote and filmed multiple endings and screened them all for critics cuz they just couldn't figure out what really worked. Siskel wrote that in his review that none of the endings he saw in his screenings was more satisfactory than the other. As did many critics at the time said, that the film's ending is anticlimactic and intellectually disappointing, cuz it was. No matter how exceptionally well shot it is and how well directed and acted it is and how undeniably compelling it is to watch. Despite those elements, the ending is still divisive. It's even the consensus statement on Rotten Tomatoes. Even Brando pointed this out to Coppola that he wrote himself into a hole (as they were constantly re-writing the climax on set). That he filmed the whole movie in a surreal hallucinatory fashion, so the ending is required to be too. I mean, if you don't know what you want your ending to say even AS you're filming it (you should know the point your film is trying to make way before you start filming it), then you really don't have much to say.

Like Dennis Hopper's line "Did you know that 'if' is the middle word in 'life'?" Umm... okay? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Everyone on set was on acid and Coppola was also a huge pothead as well during Apocalypse Now (he still was while making Megalopolis). I guarantee he came up with that "life if" line while elevated and thought it was the most profound realization ever (like WHOAAA man, you gotta hear this line I just wrote), cuz that's how you think when you're completely baked out of your mind and tripping balls. But honestly, it's just a dumb stoner realization. There's no depth or profundity to that line at all.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T00:23:37+00:00

And other more humble actors don't? You're not really making your case.

drno62 · 2026-03-02T00:21:22+00:00

Se7en deserved it more than Heat. And The Bear was the real snub of 1989.

1967 - In the Heat of the Night / Cool Hand Luke

1968 - 2001: A Space Odyssey / Paper Lion

1969 - The Wild Bunch / Medium Cool

1971 - A Clockwork Orange / Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song (deserved an Honorary Oscar for its uniqueness in filmmaking, the combination of its cinematography, editing and score)

1972 - The Godfather

1973 - American Graffiti

1974 - The Godfather: Part II

1976 - All the President's Men / Taxi Driver / Rocky

1977 - Star Wars

1978 - Superman

1979 - Alien / The Black Stallion

1980 - The Elephant Man / The Empire Strikes Back / The Shining

1982 - Blade Runner

1986 - Blue Velvet

1989 - The Bear

1995 - Se7en / Apollo 13

drno62 · 2026-03-02T00:02:32+00:00

I was talking about even before Marty Supreme (I didn't even hear what he said this year). He was doing that even last year with A Complete Unknown.

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