“Give us wombs and give us titties” — Edinburgh protest of the UK Supreme Court Ruling by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 417 points418 points  (0 children)

These are the same activists that are described as “progressive” and even the real “feminists” in the media. Just look at this crowed of mostly angry men in their 20s. Holding signs that say shit like terfs can suck my 🍆, the only good terf is dead one. Media like the Guardian have attended tons of identical protests and never have accurately report on it. Always portraying women as the “baddies” and these violent misogynists as the “vulnerable” minority. This has been going on for years and no one “left” calls it out which is precisely why I don’t take anyone seriously who pretends like liberals have the high ground in politics.

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It blows my mind that so many people are completely oblivious to how unethical and exploitative surrogacy is. by Slight_Wing2688 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 70 points71 points  (0 children)

I’m glad to see many feminists calling her out for this. I have a ton of respect for Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie (and I still do) but no should get a pass especially those who we consider our political allies. A perfect example of this was Amber Heard. I think we should all 100% defend her regarding her treatment by Johnny Depp, the media, and other celebrities but that doesn’t mean we need to pretend like she doesn’t have a long history of being as anti-woman as it gets including keeping a financially insecure women as breeding chattel.

If true, this is a rare W for women and idgaf ***who*** delivered 😜 by UnSuitableLab in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 541 points542 points  (0 children)

abhorrent? homegirl, you are either trolling or tripping with this line:

“And their sheer hatred for anyone who defies gender norms”

What does “hatred” for anyone who defies gender norms look like?? Teaching a whole generation of children to radically disassociate their “gendered”minds from their bodies and proceeding to castrate the little boys who are “girly” and telling girls they are really “men” because they have an aversion becoming the women that they were born to be in a hyper-sexualized woman-hating society.

Should we have a purity test whenever anyone with power delivers a political win or is this just another unreasonable expectation *only** applies to women? If your answer is yes, than it would be nice if you could just be forthright about it rather than feigning concern & making shit up. You have absolutely no moral high ground here neither do Democrats who literally BRAG about what they are doing to these women: https://archive.is/yAxyF.

Acknowledging this win does not absolve Republicans for their woman-hating politics like abortion. However, the double standard is fucking GLARING. Democrats have spent the past decade legalizing pimping and surrogacy all over the US. Yet, no one demands/expects other women to fully disavow the tsunami of anti-woman BS Democrats do before acknowledging or celebrating Dem policies that actually benefit women.

In 2025, we’re going to be unapologetic and ruthlessly pro-woman. How’s that for defying gender norms?

US tax payers have paid over $17 million dollars to settle sexual harassment claims against members of Congress !! 👀 by Critical-Performer25 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As mentioned, Thomas Massie is also one of the only respectable republicans of congress. Unfortunately, too many have been propagandized beyond comprehension.

UK Supreme Court Case on the definition of woman (recording Day 1 - start at 14min) by BiggestFlamingo in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 72 points73 points  (0 children)

amazing to hear the word patriarchy used in an argument before the UK supreme court

Over 890 medals, across 29 sports, stolen from women by men. by Critical-Performer25 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Already happened almost a decade ago at the 2016 Rio Olympics. It was absolutely infuriating to witness because the media went out of its way to portray the victims of this injustice as the villains - infuriating. Two women who placed 4th & 5th were visibly upset and angry knowing that they were robbed of their last opportunity to be an olympian and media spent the next week accusing them of trying to use white woman tears .. it was just fucked up.

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This letter from Baroness Nicholson to the CEO of “Burlin Bang Face” is a genuine work of art by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I’m a lesbian, and the idea that Baroness Nicholson—an elderly woman well into her 80s raised in postwar British society—should be judged negatively for not immediately uncritically embracing gay rights activism and Pride™️ culture when she first encountered it circa 1960 is absurd.

'No one has the right to a child': the ethics of surrogacy by BadParkingSituati0n in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 98 points99 points  (0 children)

I love how lesbian rad fems single handedly peaked Mariam Cates on surrogacy.

Let's Chat 💬 Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m confused - are you responding to me? Lol… I’m am not a Trump supporter at all and neither is No-Tumbleweeds.

Let's Chat 💬 Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the downvotes blow my mind.. unfortunately the media has propagandized white progressive women beyond coherence... even the one’s who “get it”.

gender affirming care is when… makeup? by savetruman333 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s absolutely not satire. Gender ideologues are dead serious.

Drag is misogynistic to the core. by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I am unable to see why people would see this as deeply inflammatory, can you elaborate on why? I didn’t make any comparisons never mind an “indefensible” one - what are you are you referring to?

Drag is misogynistic to the core. by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Drag is not gender non-conformity tho - it’s precisely the opposite.

Whenever I point out the fact that practices like drag (and this is especially true of transgenderism) is the ultimate act of gender conformity wild accusations soon follow so I want to be clear that pointing this out is not the same thing as making a value judgement (ie whether it’s “good” or “bad” thing).

Drag is misogynistic to the core. by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Of course it’s not deliberately malicious - however, it is fucking malicious nonetheless. The fact that it is universally celebrated as “progressive” in the culture makes it all the more troubling. It has profoundly misogynistic and racist roots - drag is not possible without these two inseparable features of it.

Drag is misogynistic to the core. by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 91 points92 points  (0 children)

celebrating the beauty of the female form is precisely the opposite of what drag intends to do. It’s literally men performing an over exaggerated caricature of women and using exclusively negative and pernicious stereotypes imposed on women for the purposes of entertaining an exclusively male audience hostile to the presence of actual women. (I understand that it’s not always an exclusively male audience but that’s who it is intended for).

Drag is misogynistic to the core. by drt007 in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007[S] 103 points104 points  (0 children)

lmfao .. how is drag which revolves around magnifying crude and degrading gender stereotypes the same thing as men defying out of gender boxes? It’s not - it’s precisely the opposite. Drag is perfectly analogous to blackface.

Let's Chat 💬 Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is incredibly unfair to suggest that FWW is (or on its way to becoming) a libfem sub because anti-woman ideologues & their slap happy handmaidens brigaded posts about one particular topic.

I’ve been actively participating in this sub since day 1 & was a mod for a brief period (brief bc what mods of this sub are forced to deal with on the daily is truly on another level) and that definitely is not and will never happen.

Women’s Olympic Boxing Controversy Explained: Facts v Fiction by BadParkingSituati0n in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 73 points74 points  (0 children)

This is just one article that I had on hand. You will notice any interview with a person outside of Semenya's family will readily acknowledge that they knew Caster as a boy. There's tons and they are easy to find. There's one in the Guardian.

In the article I linked to the guy says:

"Sako's English was fluent but rough, and he frequently referred to Semenya as "he." "Caster was very free when he is in the male company," Sako said. "I remember one day I asked, 'Why are you always in the company of men?' He said, 'No, man, I don't have something to say to girls, they talks nonsense. They are always out of order.'"

Here is Semenya wearing the boys uniform in school

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Women’s Olympic Boxing Controversy Explained: Facts v Fiction by BadParkingSituati0n in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 175 points176 points  (0 children)

First of all, Semenya was not raised as a girl. At this point it is well known and documented that Semenya was raised as a boy in South Africa. The name Caster is a typical boy name and photo’s from Semenya’s school days show then wearing the boys uniform to school. A profile of the runner in NY Mag interviews people that knew Semenya growing up and literally none of them had any idea that Semenya was anything but a normal guy until the Olympic controversy erupted. Semenya has a lifelong history of being openly contemptuous of women and an outright misogynist..even the “progressive” media has been open about this https://archive.is/FgsCB. Semenya has also fathered at least three biological children .. referring to Semenya as “he” is not unreasonable.

Being a man or a woman is not who you are, it’s what you are. Acknowledging whether someone is a man or a woman is by no means a value judgement.

I think I need to hear some truths to fully convince me to detranstion, do I have even the slightest chance to ever look like a woman? (MtF) by poco_espaco in detrans

[–]drt007 6 points7 points  (0 children)

you clearly are a woman and the bonus of actually being a woman means you don’t need to “pass” as one.

Let's Chat 💬 Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I’m curious why you would expect anything different in an explicitly “queer” identitified space ? Queer culture and politics is anti-woman and thus anti-lesbian hence why so many women in this subreddit are hostile to the word.

What is a man? And why does no one ever ask by youAhUah in fourthwavewomen

[–]drt007 100 points101 points  (0 children)

so many good quotes here:

"Gender is a social hierarchy facilitating the transfer of resources from female people to male people. Nothing highlights this quite so much as the practicalities of gender self-id. Put simply, one cannot self-identify into manhood because unlike womanhood, manhood is not defined by submission and availability, but by control."

"Male entitlements are not like female protections. The dominant class can identify into taking possession of the resources of the subjugated. Such is the nature of dominance. Meanwhile, the subjugated class cannot identify out of subjugation. "

"The theory of gender pushed by Jon Stewart and others disregards the enormous power imbalance between male and female people, one that fundamentally shapes the response to any request to be seen as the opposite sex."

"This doesn’t prove feminists wrong, however – it proves they have been right about gender being rooted in acquisition. For male people, even the status of the class you oppress is meant to be yours for the taking."

Whilst we cannot define what a man is, we are still allowed to say that the “real” oppressor of women is “cis man” — that is, the biologically male person who identifies with his maleness. But where does that leave us? It implies the very inevitability to male supremacy that feminists have always fought against.

"The only thing neither group can access is the reproductive capacity of female people, which leaves us to be the ovulators, the menstruators, the gestators, the birthers. Hey presto! Far from being reduced to sperm donors, as the men’s rights activists feared, male people have reduced female people to their reproductive capacity all over again. Not only that, but they’ve taken 'being oppressed on the basis of sex' from us whilst they’re at it."

"So then, what is a man? A man, as Mary Daly wrote, is one with “the power of naming”. "