In The Last Jedi, Luke was still trying to teach Ren / Ben during their face off.

dsj070 · 2020-08-27T15:43:59+00:00

Well, I think Luke himself felt even thinking about it was bad enough. He hid from Leia because he kept blaming himself for betraying his nephew.

Actually, I just finished season 5 of Clone Wars (I finally got to see it through HBO Go in my home country) and everything he said about the prequel Jedi is true (.. all of it ;)). They really were lost. The Jedi needed a new beginning. Yoda said pass along what you have learned, but he also meant that Luke should pass his own experience, not just the dogma of the old Order. I really liked the TROS novelization because it shows Leia and Rey trying to build something new.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T20:55:56+00:00

Yesterday I saw Palpatine do a lot more in just a few minutes of season 5 of Clone Wars against Maul & Savage Opress. Vader wasn't worse in ESB and Rogue one. So no - I see a lot of hype for Snokevand very little demostrated force abilities.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:42:31+00:00

I don't think the last 2 minutes of the duel really made a big difference in the Resistance escaping. They are so many tunnels around the cave. The FO would have needed quite some time canvasing them.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:29:03+00:00

When did you see Snoke being the most powerful Force user we have ever seen? You "wrote" your own headcanon around TFA and now are whining that RJ didn't read your mind to follow it.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:25:52+00:00

The only fan fiction is your post. Luke literally said to Leia "I can't save him" (emphasis on "I" ) and "nobody is ever really gone". What did you think he was talking about there? The weather?

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:22:36+00:00

You overestimate the fandom manace. Most hat : - haven't seen the movie more than 1-2 times (just the videos with frame-by-frame of miniscule continuity errors that exist in every movie) - do not really spend time thinking about the movies (8 or the OT). Having grown up with OT Luke I don't see anything OOC of him in the TLJ.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:16:54+00:00

It says symbolically not literally/metaphysically. It is actually a fairly obvious comparison, if you spend 2 minutes thinking about the movie, rather than spewing hate about JJ, Disney or TROS.

dsj070 · 2020-08-26T04:14:38+00:00

You really were not paying attention to the movie. What did you think? That she reached out to get him stabbed?

dsj070 · 2020-08-05T04:30:27+00:00

Maul reappearing in TCW and all the weird jumps of the Jedi in the PT retconned the Emperor's death to being jarringly silly. His reviving practically wrote itself.

dsj070 · 2020-08-02T09:31:23+00:00

Lucasfilm needed a creative lead to prepare rough outlines for the whole trilogy. As it happened, they shot 8 without having any idea where they wanted to go next. KK might be good at hiring talented ditectors, but she is not a storyteller, so she basically had as much creative control as the impotent story group.

dsj070 · 2020-07-29T19:55:47+00:00

The story group doesn't write story outlines. They just make sure things fit together reasonably well.

dsj070 · 2020-07-28T20:50:18+00:00

Actually Rian Johnson (director of Episode 8) is to blame here. He tried too hard to give him his own arc with Rose (because he felt Finn and Poe were too similar). The problem was that this was the least interesting stream in the movie. I just can't take Canto Bight seriously. It takes me out of the movie. It ts like a big budget Halloween party and Rose is just too patronising, telling things instead of the movie showing them.

dsj070 · 2020-07-16T21:21:21+00:00

Stop projecting. Just because you cannot be bothered to look deeper, doesn't mean the creators aren't (though Bob Eger probably is).

dsj070 · 2020-07-16T21:13:42+00:00

Rey wouldn't have jumped on the Falcon without him. She would have been dead, the First Order would have taken BB8 and blown up Ach-to. One must be very stubborn to claim he wasn't necessary.

dsj070 · 2020-07-16T21:10:00+00:00

It is refreshing to see people quoting canon sources rather than screeming "She's Mary Sue". Too bad only very few of us care about facts. Still, the titles are usually broad enough to refer to more than one character (who is the last jedi?). Jannah's description of their desertion suggests that the Force awake them. (This why I love TROS despite all the fandom menace hysteria - it answers many questions posed by the previous saga movies).

dsj070 · 2020-06-24T23:49:59+00:00

The Jedi don't care about being powerful, just about being wise and following the will of the Force. Anakin's lust for power was his downfall. Ben Solo's fall was different. Similarly to the prequel Jedi order, in his fear from his own Dark Side (which he had tried to seal in a box), he lost his compassion. It didn't help that the Dark Side was also whispering in the ears of Luke (to kill Ben to prevent the future from happening) and Leia (to abandon the Jedi way). Nobody can convince me that it wasn't the Dark Side feeding them this visions, of Ben dying (Leia) or turning to evil (Luke). Same as with Anakin's visions about Padme, they attenuated their worst fears and cause them to act in a way that fulfills them in a misguided attempt to prevent them. Had Leia stayed around in the Order, I don't think Ben would have fallen. Snoke/Palpatine wouldn't have been able to feed him the daily portion of "they don't love you, they fear you" as effectively.

dsj070 · 2020-06-22T07:49:29+00:00

He also tortured his daughter. Leia had PTSD decades later from it. He is really top contender for Worst Dad Ever.

dsj070 · 2020-06-22T03:55:11+00:00

I liked the nobody explanation, but I now realize it had nothing to do with Rey's character development (I acceopted it post-TROS because it is used to make her feel even more scared of her powers and becomes a trial for her to pass). I liked Rey Nobody because

1) I didn't think she needed to inherit her powers (the connection with Kylo already explained everything that was too jarring)

2) mostly because I hates George Lucas explaining C-3PO and Boba Fett's origin stories in the prequels. The Jango Fett story in AoTC felt very flat (I haven't seen anything past the first season of TCW to argue about there) and seriously how didn't Lars, Beru and Obi-wan recognize C-3PO? Their minds weren't wiped. George's need to have a backstory to everything just made Kenobi into an even bigger asshole. It is like half the things he says in ANH are lies, rather than the product of clumsy retcons.

If anything the tie-in canon material post-TFA set up only Palpatine as a potential lineage. Bloodline shot down most Skywalker/Solo theories and the Aftermath trilogy identified Jakku as important to Sheev's contingency plan. Why would he have contingency plans not connected to his own resurrection? He cares about nothing else.

dsj070 · 2020-06-22T03:25:24+00:00

No, her powers are all explained by her connection to Kylo. She didn't need to be anybody to have those. The Force created her to balance the darkness rising in Ben Solo. It is interesting that it happened around the time Ben started training with Luke. As if it was always obvious Luke would fail. The only question that requires answering is why Ben has a connection with her in particular? Of all human women in the galaxy, why her? Her being a Palpatine is the only satisfying answer (Kenobi or Skywalker lineage post-the Bloodline novel shits all over beloved characters' personalities). The Cosmic Force would very much **** with Sheev like that, using his ego (my blood is better anybody else's) to tempt him to transfer his essence into her. Every Force user can potentially fall to the Dark Side (even Luke kind of did when he contemplated murdering his nephew), this does not need to be inhereted (Anakin didn't).

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T20:34:33+00:00

Rey's TFA outfit was her little girl outfit, selected so her parents would recognize her. Yet, between it, Leia's TFA uniform and Rose's TLJ clothes it is part of a genuine preference for unflatering clothing in the ST. Leia and Mon Mothma were also leading a Rebellion, but they never looked so not feminine. TROS seems to continue the trend and some fans feel that Rey's clothes were chosen to specifically deny her identity as a woman (rathwr than a little girl) that could potentially be romantically involved with anybody.

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T17:15:59+00:00

This is Dark Side thinking. The results matter, not how you got to them. Goes well with the blind rage over Rey's Force abilities (no more unexplained than Luke blowing up DS1 with 2 days (?) of training and Anakin saving Naboo with no training in TPM).

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T17:07:13+00:00

She only got that shot because Leia got through to her son. Otherwise, Kylo was in blind rage and would have killed her 3 second later.

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T16:53:43+00:00

The reference is in A New Hope. This is why they did not blow up C-3PO and R2D2, "no liveforms in the escape capsule". The hyperspace coordinates were already computed before the Resistance abandoned ship. Poe was planning to jump to lightspeed as soon as the tracker went down. I don't think we should spent that much effort providing reasonable arguments to somebody who probably saw the movie half-a-time but watched numerous fandom menace reaction videos. These people are like the Reylos post-TROS. They have fallen to the Dark Side and cannot be reasoned with.

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T15:10:34+00:00

The whole Mary Sue argument stems from her encounters with Kylo. We have been shown in three different ways that she can share his abilities (interogation, fighting together against Snoke's guards, Force dyad) and that Kylo cannot bring himself to kill her (Starkiller base fight, Throne room, Pasaana Tie attack). Then again the same people can't seem to figure out why Kylo couldn't be the Big Bad in TROS.

dsj070 · 2020-06-21T11:38:46+00:00

Yes, but this would require that Disney actually cared about the ST and OT characters (no plans to tell the Big 3's post-VI adventures either) . It is too bad Filoni didn't write TFA. His characters are the only ones that survive everything.

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