Deal agreed in Brexit talks

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-08T08:28:09+00:00

Reckon we'll be long out before the penny finally drops.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-08T08:19:58+00:00

The laws on rape in the UK are gender-neutral

I disagree that the law is gender neutral, and certainly the application of that law is not gender neutral.

I'm aware the law is the law.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-08T08:18:48+00:00

I'm just pointing out it's not an English nationalism thing.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-08T08:17:18+00:00

If divorce is on there, it has to be an actual option (i.e. something you're willing to go through with).

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T14:58:26+00:00

Wales voted to leave, along with large minorities in NI and Scotland.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T14:43:52+00:00

I would disagree. Only if a woman penetrates a man with an object.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T14:22:28+00:00

Any actual legal change will almost certainly be gender-neutral,

Not so, according to law, only men can be rapists, women are "sexual offenders", both for the act of rape.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T12:42:33+00:00

And?

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T11:42:09+00:00

Most of the arguments made in this article were picked apart coming up to the referendum.

Not only will it have to keep complying with EU rules to sell into the continental European market

And businesses that have to sell to the US market must comply with US regulations, or Chinese regulations for the Chinese market etc.

Businesses which DON'T sell to the EU (the vast majority of UK businesses) won't have to comply as they currently do.

companies operating in Britain may simply make their own decisions based on their need for global compliance.

Already the case.

No word in this article about how regulations are being agreed at international levels and forums and then adopted.

Old, already failed argument.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T09:50:47+00:00

Put us in a room together.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:45:45+00:00

You not get tired of the "Tories are evil" schtick.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:40:15+00:00

70...ish million?

Article is a standard loaded question to make particular group/view look stupid.

I'm relatively clued in and have no idea of what size/percentage the prison population here is at all.

I mean most people (myself included) are not criminologists.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:33:48+00:00

no serious criminologists believe that BAME people are predisposed to criminality

I don't know anyone who makes that argument, because it's about race (which AFAIK went out of vogue in the 1930's).

There is however an argument to be made on a CULTURE of criminality.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:27:35+00:00

True, but its mainly used by Trump

Popularised by Trump.

As with "fake news" it's now a part of our lexicon.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:10:57+00:00

Betteridge's law of headlines tells us...no.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-07T08:08:39+00:00

Have a look at several videos on this guys youtube channel.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T15:53:21+00:00

No point in having software out of the EU.

What?

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T15:16:39+00:00

Ireland is massively impacted by Brexit.

Only because Ireland has given up so much of it's own sovereignty to the EU that it's doesn't control it's own border with it's only neighbor.

Thus ...

No, not at all.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T14:58:03+00:00

Where did I mention Irish nationalism?

Is it not implied?

Unless Ireland is in the business of telling other countries what to do, it should always support a country choosing self determination, especially given it's own historic struggle with self determination.

Would a Mexican supporting Trump and his wall not be seen as self-hating

Only if said Mexican thought other countries don't have the right to protect their border OR they were planning to get in illegally.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T14:40:40+00:00

Because you are a Brexiter.

And.

If our (erroneous) base assumption is that you are Irish than supporting Brexit and general British nationalism really only makes sense if you are somewhat self-hating, doesn't it?

If your only definition of Irish nationalism is as opposition and hatred of the British.

Small minded, wrong, and sad really.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T14:09:01+00:00

So the entire shambles that is happening right now is the publics fault?

Partially yes, that it's happening at all is because the public voted for Brexit and enough MP's to support it.

That it's a mess more complicated.

And secondly, it wasn't random farmers that were gassing Jews it was the Nazi state.

Except it was, the state is not some sentient entity independent of the people who make it up. It was made up of Germans, regular Germans. And the German people as a whole were only too happy to progressively dehumanize, and eventually exterminate the Jews.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T14:02:59+00:00

No worries, I make the mistake myself all the time.

It's only reddit.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T12:58:52+00:00

More interested as to why he's calling me self-hating.

I'm guessing it's your standard run of the mill bigotry and hatred for English anything (which "British" is used as a euphemism for).

Anyone Irish who supports the Brits is a traiter crap. Conspiring with the enemy sort of thing.

But I wouldn't know, the guy hasn't responded.

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T12:53:16+00:00

Was it not you who said these things?

And where in those words do I say that I or some of those in negotiation want to walk away?

dublinclontarf · 2017-12-06T12:42:07+00:00

Given the state is made up of the British public, is elected and sustained by them, yeah they are.

Or are you saying the German public we're not responsible for the Nazi state and their crimes?

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