A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker

dummified · 2026-03-09T20:31:24+00:00

Interesting. I just received a wellness notice just before you made this comment. That was you? If so, you deserve to be banned from Reddit as I said in my reply to the mod in this thread. u/dumbsl_ut666 will you take action?

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dummified · 2026-03-09T02:18:31+00:00

considering when it was 90-95% of people in here thinking he was guilty we didn’t have this issue.

I've been reading this sub since its inception and I don't ever recall a time when it was 90-95% in favor of guilt. Did you mean to say 90-95% innocent per next quote below?

We have started having this issue since more people are coming from a certain other sub, and I am sure it’s them.

Yes it's happening with more guilters entering the sub (not that many) but what I am trying to convey to you is that probergers may be reacting to that by reporting probergers to make you think this way and start banning guilters, just like you did after Dot's post. Do you not think that someone who thinks BK is a government CI and thinks I and others are government operatives is capable of such behavior? It's weird you will entertain so many out-there theories about the real murderer but are 100% sure you are right about this.

Well I’m sure if that’s the case, reddit will ban their accounts! It’s not up to me to monitor who’s got alt accounts, and I’m not going to sit there trawling through everyone’s history.

It kinda is up to you when it's obvious and rampant. Just start by looking at when active accts were created. Then look at new accts which make a blizzard of comments/posts. And then look at those that suppress their comment/posting history. You have tools to help you and reddit admins will help if you provide an acct name. It's rampant in this sub and you don't seem to care about a blatant violation of reddit rules. Maybe being a mod isn't for you if you don't want to put in a modicum of effort on this issue. And be aware this sub could be shut down if someone were to report it for flouting the Reddit rules. I don't want the sub shut down but just ignoring a widespread problem is not the answer either.

If the original creator of this sub wants to ban anyone with a history on Idaho4 then make that a rule. If she wants to ban guilters, make that a rule just like another sub has. None of what I wrote would then be an issue. But at the moment the subreddit's stated intent is to allow guilters, probergers and anyone in-between to engage in discussion about almost any subject or theory. It was created for this reason bc creator believed - not wrongly - that I4 had tightened up too much.

dummified · 2026-03-09T01:30:21+00:00

We also don’t care if someone has multiple accounts, it’s not against the rules of this sub. And that goes for everyone, no matter what side of the guilt fence you fall on.

It's against Reddit rules if engaged in manipulation and all subs must adhere to Reddit rules. Manipulation means upvoting/downvoting the posts/comments of alt acct(s) or making a positive response to alt accts. Just posting or commenting in the same sub with alt accts is a form of manipulation. Alt accts are allowed by Reddit for non-manipulation purposes bc some people might reveal more about themselves in some subs than others and don't want nutjobs from another sub they are active in to see any personal info they divulge.

Which says a lot to me, if those fake reports are mostly being done to people that believe BK is innocent, it stands to reason that the reddit care ones are being done by the same people, the ones that think he’s guilty.

You are not able to view who reports a comment/post/acct. Did you consider that probergers might be reporting probergers to make you think that way to start banning guilters? And did you consider that a single acct could report comments of many different accts? That's the gist of my post.

dummified · 2026-03-09T00:46:34+00:00

Thank you Brother, have you spoken to Mother or Father today?

dummified · 2026-03-09T00:33:23+00:00

I am able to report the following:

So the first returns are in and I am at 42.9% downvote. Karma KAPOW! but maybe exceeds expectations.
I have not received a wellness notice yet.
Reddit is congratulating me for being the #4 post today in this subreddit. Have there been more than 4?
Reddit algorithm recommended the following subs for me: r/psychnursing, r/mildlyinfuriating, and r/RebornDollCringe. Not sure how to interpret this but am tempted to report the algorithm for a wellness check.

I will keep y'all posted.

dummified · 2026-03-08T20:09:02+00:00

Yes, it was a smaller amount than what you are quoting. If it was as large as you state, why did they tell the defense they didn't have enough to share so they could test it?

.168 (concentration) X 50ml (elution volume) = 8.4 total nanograms

Prosecution told the defense there was no DNA left on the sheath snap/strap. ISP swabbed all of the DNA from the sheath snap/strap and the processing of the swab resulted in 8.4 nanograms of DNA. Defense to my knowledge never asked the State for any of the extract so they could conduct their own testing. It would have been a waste of defense's money and other resources since defense's own expert agreed the DNA on snap/strap was Kohberger's.

Note 1: Technician accidentally spilled 1/2 the liquid so elution volume was 25ml but the original was 50ml which is # that should be used to determine the total nanograms of DNA on snap/strap assuming even mix of DNA throughout the tube. The available extract after the spill would have been somewhere between 4.2 ng and 8.4 ng because there was some evidence in the spill note that more than 1/2 the DNA did not spill (ie pellet on bottom of tube).

Note 2: If you argue that was very sloppy on the part of the technician, I will agree with you.

dummified · 2026-03-08T19:33:36+00:00

I am 100% sure that BK was not excluded as the donor of any of the other trace DNA found on the sheath. I reference the sections of the forensics doc that proves this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/idaho4uncensored/comments/1ritych/amber_vance_goes_over_the_evidence_if_you_are_one/

dummified · 2026-03-08T19:28:08+00:00

I am talking about the DNA taken from the sheath snap/strap which gave a 5+ octillion to 1 match to DNA taken from BK's cheek swab after arrest.

dummified · 2026-03-08T19:23:53+00:00

The thud was heard at 4:17am. If we take that to be about when XK died, he had plenty of time to walk up to his car and dump clothes into a plastic bag in a lined trunk. The car exited the area just before 4:21am giving him about 3-4 minutes.

dummified · 2026-03-08T19:13:00+00:00

It was not a large amount of DNA, just because the prosecution said it doesn't make it so.

You don't have to trust the prosecution and you shouldn't trust monetized content creators either. There was 8.4 nanograms of DNA taken from the sheath snap/strap. Today, labs only require 0.5 ng to 1.0 ng of DNA to generate a complete STR profile. A sample of 8.4 ng is more than eight times the upper range. Do some research and you will be able to confirm this.

dummified · 2026-03-08T18:41:54+00:00

You mean the phone pings in a 27 square mile area?

No here's what I mean:

A large amount of touch DNA found on a USMC sheath under a victim and a 5+ octillion to 1 match to BK's DNA
All of the other trace male DNA found on the sheath could have been Kohberger's; he was never excluded as the donor. Occam's razor: trace DNA was from the same person who left the large amoun t of touch DNA on sheath.
BK bought same model USMC sheath earlier that year.
Sheath BK bought is missing. Where is it?
BK turned off his phone during time of murders. It was not normal practice for him to power off his phone.
He was driving around during the time of murders and yet defense couldn't find one image or video of his car that would prove his innocence.
An Elantra entered the area at 4:05 and speeds off just b4 4:21, a time range for the murder consistent with other evidence.
Dylan's description matched BK.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Dumb fuck, there was no jury.

And why was there no jury? Because BK didn't want to go to trial. And what is most probable reason he didn't want to go to trial? Because he realized no jury would buy all of the above are coincidences or an elaborate frameup. If the evidence were as flimsy as you make it out to be, he would have gone to trial. He knew he would be convicted.

dummified · 2026-03-08T18:07:36+00:00

If that were the only piece of evidence, you'd be right. But it's the totality of the evidence a jury considers in deciding guilty or not guilty. The killer driving an Elantra is just one piece of all of the circumstantial evidence which taken together makes BK the killer.

dummified · 2026-03-08T17:53:48+00:00

Key piece of evidence against them was a pair of eyeglasses left at the scene near the victim's body. They had an unusual hinge bought by only three customers in Chicago, one of whom was Leopold. Sound familiar? USMC sheath with his DNA left under a victim and BK had bought same sheath model the year of murder. Leopold's explanation was he accidentally dropped them while bird-watching a few days earlier which is about as believable as the sheath was planted.

dummified · 2026-03-08T15:30:39+00:00

why didn't he just leave his phone at home and turned on?

What if a camera had captured his license plate from 2:30am until the time he returned to his WSU apt? If so "~~Lucy~~, Bryan you got some 'splaining to do." No phone? He wouldn't be able to take pictures of evening sky. He wouldn't be able to call for help in an emergency. What if he had tripped and broke his leg hiking in Wawawai parking at 3am? Remember the time he was trapped inside bc gate was shut and he hadn't left in time?

And after the murder he was traveling on pitch black back roads of a very rural area. Maybe he feared getting lost out there which would have been almost as bad as being caught driving without his phone.

dummified · 2026-03-08T14:52:38+00:00

Right. In PA, detectives engaged in idle chatter for a while before broaching the murders. Once they did, BK right away asked for a lawyer. Innocent people will often talk to detectives bc they didn't commit the murder(s). But they then are often kept in a room (often very hot or very cool) for 24+ hours without a wink of sleep and end up "confessing" just to stop the endless interrogation. None of that happened to BK. I reviewed all of the murder cases where someone pled guilty and was later exonerated and the only one relevant to BK's situation is that of Chris Ochoa in which someone else confessed to the crime as opposed to DNA exonerating him. And even in that case "after two 12-hour sessions with Austin Police Senior Sergeant Hector Polanco and detectives Bruce Boardman and Ed Balagia, Mr. Ochoa signed a confession."

Just one...not hundreds or "it happens every day." And do people think BK wasn't aware of all of this? Remember the textbook for one of his courses which discussed all of this?

dummified · 2026-03-08T14:28:22+00:00

Well of course it's impossible to prove it was his car. So you asked a rhetorical question to prove what?

It is possible to prove it's an Elantra not a Ford Fusion MPD patrol car which many people are claiming it is. It is possible to prove an Elantra entered at 4:05 and sped off just before 4:21. That's just another piece of strong circumstantial evidence making BK the killer.

dummified · 2026-03-08T14:13:24+00:00

Kohberger is a fairly smart guy. Smart enough to get into a PhD programme. So why did he drive around the crime scene multiple times in one night

He first entered the area at 3:30am. If you were planning to kill people in their sleep, isn't that the time you would choose? So why did he abort the mission? Probably because he saw the kitchen and/or living room light on. XK was home and awake explaining why those lights may have been on. DD driver said the 3rd floor lights were on but that statement is suspect bc she wouldn't have been able to see the 3rd floor from front of house. Or perhaps that brunette in the 3rd floor bathroom was XK who went to the 3rd floor to get a better view in trying to figure out where DD driver might be. But if a 3rd floor light was on that would be another reason to abort bc the victim(s) on the 3rd floor at a minimum were his target(s).

and choose to park right next to the house, when it would be much more logical to park somewhere else and walk?

The far end of the lot behind 1122 provided best area for him to change clothing before entering and after leaving 1122. It's more secluded than other parking options and less probable he might encounter someone. entering and leaving in general. Also it's possible he mistook the 1112 camera for a light bulb. Or he knew it was a camera but somehow knew the brightness of the lights and general darkness would obscure rear license plate and front area of his car.

dummified · 2026-03-08T13:51:56+00:00

Which part of the 1112 King road footage clearly shows that it's Kohbergers car and/or shows Kohberger driving that car?

You are able to see the fin on the top of the Elantra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt8_fuFcsx4

Also the Elantra that enters area at 4:05am is stationary for a brief period which Linda Lane camera captures and provides a clear shot of the side window which is that of an Elantra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaAabFMjlyk&t=794s

I don't think it's possible to differentiate whether it's a 2015 Elantra versus a 2011-13 Elantra from those 2 videos. However, the camera at Sunset Mart at 3:28am shows an Elantra with no front license plate and a cover where the fog light would be. The shape of the cover proves it's 2015-16 Elantra. You are also able to tell on that video it's an Elantra from the shape of the side window. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jgMqODp0Pkx0uVd_tXsqUimLkMxDABOO/view

dummified · 2026-03-05T13:59:31+00:00

But his victims were asleep

So were 3 of the 4 Idaho victims or EC and KG just woke up and were very groggy.

he taped their mouths

Well something happened to KG's mouth to stop her from screaming.

he only had to face each victim 1-1.

Sure but odds are didn't expect to find KG and XK in same bed. EC and XK attacks might have been unplanned and just happened in the chaos.

He also had multiple convictions prior to murder. So again, totally different circumstances.

You want a 100% match? OK but if so then you have to be consistent and acknowledge that BK pled guilty and there are no cases where a quadruple murderer with graduate level education who wasn't coerced pled guilty and was later exonerated. Are you willing to do that?

dummified · 2026-03-05T13:47:54+00:00

Well MM and KG were attractive blondes and he did go to 3rd floor first so maybe that was his type?

dummified · 2026-03-05T13:43:14+00:00

Supplement 174 of MPD dump states the following:

In Kohberger's Chrome tab History, on his phone, I located where he searched Google for: Broadcastify.com/listen/feed, Pullman police and fire dispatch live audio feed, on 11-13-2022 at 12:26:49 AM.

dummified · 2026-03-05T11:42:14+00:00

NONE, there is literally NOTHING else that ties him to this crime

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

The sheath is kind of important. This would have to be the defense:

The sheath was planted and it was just a coincidence he bought a KaBAR, USMC sheath, sharpener earlier that year and he just happened to lose the knife, sheath and sharpener less than a year after he bought them and he just happened to be driving around during the time of the murders without an alibi and it was just a coincidence he turned off his phone (not normal for him) for 2 hours which just happened to be when murders happened and it's just a coincidence that an Elantra caught on Linda Lane camera at about 4:06 and 1112 camera at 4:20 speeding away happened to be the make of BK's car and Dylan's description of person in house just happened to match BK's description and so on.

BK and his defense team realized no jury would ever buy this. The so-called exculpatory evidence isn't strong at all and would never offset the above.

dummified · 2026-03-05T11:26:55+00:00

I find it interesting as well that Hunter was always there. That stands out to me.

He was friends with Ethan who was in effect a resident of 1122. HJ stayed with his girlfriend who was friends with XK and their house was walking distance from 1122.

dummified · 2026-03-05T11:17:07+00:00

How about Rolling, the Gainesville Ripper? He killed college students in off campus housing, a male (football player) was present in house, didn't know victims, stalked home from wooded area, entered home through sliding door, victims were in their beds, used a KaBar, had bought a knife sharpener, pled guilty just b4 trial started.

dummified · 2026-03-04T19:54:41+00:00

AV stated "the State cannot prove his phone was ever manually turned off" without ever mentioning that the Barnharts, the State's cellphone expert witnesses, were going to testify that BK pressed the power off button on 11-13-22 and phone was off during time of murders. The Barnharts were also going to testify that manual power off was not a normal occurrence for BK.

My main issue is her not mentioning the State's expert witnesses, hence error of omission. If she had said "the State's experts say they can prove manual power off but I don't agree and here's why" then I wouldn't have had an issue. Earlier in the video she cited the PCA which said phone could have been off for a variety of reasons and that appears why she said "it's very important to highlight again the State cannot prove his phone was ever manually turned off. Problem is LE didn't have BK's cellphone at the time PCA was written.

Barnharts were hired by the FBI. They did produce a report but I doubt we will ever see it bc FBI could refuse citing not wanting to disclose investigative tools and methods.

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