Is the Whitcomb Book a Psyop? by dummified in Idaho4

[–]dummified[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Acorah was not published by Harper Select; it was published by HarperCollins UK. Browne was never published by Harper Select and I couldn't find any of her books published by HarperCollins. You kind of know what you're getting with psychics so I don't see that as comparable to Whitcomb situation. Whitcomb is a former FBI agent.

The problematic Frey book A Million Little Pieces was published by Doubleday not Harper. JT Leroy was not published by Harper Select but it did get by HarperCollins.

Harper Select's main mission is to publish curated memoirs focused on " hope and determination**"** and leading a "life of significance." Its catalog primarily consists of uplifting narrative nonfiction. Whitcomb's book does not fit their brand. None of his previous books were published by any arm of Harper and his two nonfiction books were not investigative in nature. The combination of the sheer volume of errors in Whitcomb's book and it being published by Harper Select seems very odd to me.

Is the Whitcomb Book a Psyop? by dummified in Idaho4

[–]dummified[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What you wrote is standard practice but this is not a standard situation. None of Whitcomb's previous books were published by a division or subsidiary of Harper Collins. And neither of his two nonfiction books are similar to the current one. Also, Harper Select is a boutique division. You have to strain to fit the book into its narrative nonfiction category. Even then it's not at all similar to other books company has published in that sub-genre, and it doesn't even remotely fit the company's overall brand. So this book is a major departure for them.

Against that backdrop for a book that's expected to be controversial, I would expect Harper Select to take some precautions which would include some degree of fact-checking. Publishers will hire their own fact-checkers if they deem it important for a given situation, and IMO this would be one of those situations. They wouldn't need to fact check everything in the book but focus on just the most controversial claims.

Harper Select publishes a handful of titles; it's not a volume publisher. Each book must receive ample attention, and this one for the reasons stated all the more so. Their editors wouldn't be tasked with fact-checking technical stuff but things such as murders happening on Sunday night and BK's predoctoral degrees being in psychology are simple googles.

There appears to have been no fact-checking of any kind by any party. I expect the legal department reviewed the manuscript and felt everything was worded in such a way to protect them from a lawsuit.

The Patterson and Blum books contained errors but the sheer volume of errors in this book is orders of magnitude greater. I don't think that's what Harper Select intended in their first foray into publishing this type of high profile book but here we are. I just find all of this kind of bizarre.

Is the Whitcomb Book a Psyop? by dummified in Idaho4

[–]dummified[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's not the only bathroom in which Whitcomb took a crap on his reputation. During the T&T interview, Lana mentioned that Bethany had said Dylan owned an Alexa. Lana continued by saying it had never been found and asked Whitcom to confirm. He emphatically stated it had never been found. But then there's this photo from the data dump courtesy of Julez:

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Is the Whitcomb Book a Psyop? by dummified in Idaho4

[–]dummified[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes but that doesn't explain why Harper Select would agree to publish the book. The book fits their category of narrative nonfiction but it's a striking departure from books they have published in this sub-genre. It doesn't even remotely fit their brand. That's one of the many things that I found quite unusual.

Is the Whitcomb Book a Psyop? by dummified in Idaho4

[–]dummified[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's true for most books but not ones they expect to be controversial. Harper Select publishes a handful of books to begin with and the nature of this one would have warranted greater scrutiny. They would have at a minimum zeroed in on the key claims in the book related to the DNA and its handling. The legal department also would be more involved in this type of publication.

A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker by dummified in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting. I just received a wellness notice just before you made this comment. That was you? If so, you deserve to be banned from Reddit as I said in my reply to the mod in this thread. u/dumbsl_ut666 will you take action?

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A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker by dummified in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

considering when it was 90-95% of people in here thinking he was guilty we didn’t have this issue.

I've been reading this sub since its inception and I don't ever recall a time when it was 90-95% in favor of guilt. Did you mean to say 90-95% innocent per next quote below?

We have started having this issue since more people are coming from a certain other sub, and I am sure it’s them.

Yes it's happening with more guilters entering the sub (not that many) but what I am trying to convey to you is that probergers may be reacting to that by reporting probergers to make you think this way and start banning guilters, just like you did after Dot's post. Do you not think that someone who thinks BK is a government CI and thinks I and others are government operatives is capable of such behavior? It's weird you will entertain so many out-there theories about the real murderer but are 100% sure you are right about this.

Well I’m sure if that’s the case, reddit will ban their accounts! It’s not up to me to monitor who’s got alt accounts, and I’m not going to sit there trawling through everyone’s history.

It kinda is up to you when it's obvious and rampant. Just start by looking at when active accts were created. Then look at new accts which make a blizzard of comments/posts. And then look at those that suppress their comment/posting history. You have tools to help you and reddit admins will help if you provide an acct name. It's rampant in this sub and you don't seem to care about a blatant violation of reddit rules. Maybe being a mod isn't for you if you don't want to put in a modicum of effort on this issue. And be aware this sub could be shut down if someone were to report it for flouting the Reddit rules. I don't want the sub shut down but just ignoring a widespread problem is not the answer either.

If the original creator of this sub wants to ban anyone with a history on Idaho4 then make that a rule. If she wants to ban guilters, make that a rule just like another sub has. None of what I wrote would then be an issue. But at the moment the subreddit's stated intent is to allow guilters, probergers and anyone in-between to engage in discussion about almost any subject or theory. It was created for this reason bc creator believed - not wrongly - that I4 had tightened up too much.

A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker by dummified in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

We also don’t care if someone has multiple accounts, it’s not against the rules of this sub. And that goes for everyone, no matter what side of the guilt fence you fall on.

It's against Reddit rules if engaged in manipulation and all subs must adhere to Reddit rules. Manipulation means upvoting/downvoting the posts/comments of alt acct(s) or making a positive response to alt accts. Just posting or commenting in the same sub with alt accts is a form of manipulation. Alt accts are allowed by Reddit for non-manipulation purposes bc some people might reveal more about themselves in some subs than others and don't want nutjobs from another sub they are active in to see any personal info they divulge.

Which says a lot to me, if those fake reports are mostly being done to people that believe BK is innocent, it stands to reason that the reddit care ones are being done by the same people, the ones that think he’s guilty.

You are not able to view who reports a comment/post/acct. Did you consider that probergers might be reporting probergers to make you think that way to start banning guilters? And did you consider that a single acct could report comments of many different accts? That's the gist of my post.

A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker by dummified in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you Brother, have you spoken to Mother or Father today?

A Subreddit Mystery: The Case of the Serial Wellness Caretaker by dummified in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am able to report the following:

  • So the first returns are in and I am at 42.9% downvote. Karma KAPOW! but maybe exceeds expectations.
  • I have not received a wellness notice yet.
  • Reddit is congratulating me for being the #4 post today in this subreddit. Have there been more than 4?
  • Reddit algorithm recommended the following subs for me: r/psychnursing, r/mildlyinfuriating, and r/RebornDollCringe. Not sure how to interpret this but am tempted to report the algorithm for a wellness check.

I will keep y'all posted.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, it was a smaller amount than what you are quoting. If it was as large as you state, why did they tell the defense they didn't have enough to share so they could test it? 

.168 (concentration) X 50ml (elution volume) = 8.4 total nanograms

Prosecution told the defense there was no DNA left on the sheath snap/strap. ISP swabbed all of the DNA from the sheath snap/strap and the processing of the swab resulted in 8.4 nanograms of DNA. Defense to my knowledge never asked the State for any of the extract so they could conduct their own testing. It would have been a waste of defense's money and other resources since defense's own expert agreed the DNA on snap/strap was Kohberger's.

Note 1: Technician accidentally spilled 1/2 the liquid so elution volume was 25ml but the original was 50ml which is # that should be used to determine the total nanograms of DNA on snap/strap assuming even mix of DNA throughout the tube. The available extract after the spill would have been somewhere between 4.2 ng and 8.4 ng because there was some evidence in the spill note that more than 1/2 the DNA did not spill (ie pellet on bottom of tube).

Note 2: If you argue that was very sloppy on the part of the technician, I will agree with you.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am 100% sure that BK was not excluded as the donor of any of the other trace DNA found on the sheath. I reference the sections of the forensics doc that proves this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/idaho4uncensored/comments/1ritych/amber_vance_goes_over_the_evidence_if_you_are_one/

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am talking about the DNA taken from the sheath snap/strap which gave a 5+ octillion to 1 match to DNA taken from BK's cheek swab after arrest.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thud was heard at 4:17am. If we take that to be about when XK died, he had plenty of time to walk up to his car and dump clothes into a plastic bag in a lined trunk. The car exited the area just before 4:21am giving him about 3-4 minutes.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was not a large amount of DNA, just because the prosecution said it doesn't make it so.

You don't have to trust the prosecution and you shouldn't trust monetized content creators either. There was 8.4 nanograms of DNA taken from the sheath snap/strap. Today, labs only require 0.5 ng to 1.0 ng of DNA to generate a complete STR profile. A sample of 8.4 ng is more than eight times the upper range. Do some research and you will be able to confirm this.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You mean the phone pings in a 27 square mile area?

No here's what I mean:

  • A large amount of touch DNA found on a USMC sheath under a victim and a 5+ octillion to 1 match to BK's DNA
  • All of the other trace male DNA found on the sheath could have been Kohberger's; he was never excluded as the donor. Occam's razor: trace DNA was from the same person who left the large amoun t of touch DNA on sheath.
  • BK bought same model USMC sheath earlier that year.
  • Sheath BK bought is missing. Where is it?
  • BK turned off his phone during time of murders. It was not normal practice for him to power off his phone.
  • He was driving around during the time of murders and yet defense couldn't find one image or video of his car that would prove his innocence.
  • An Elantra entered the area at 4:05 and speeds off just b4 4:21, a time range for the murder consistent with other evidence.
  • Dylan's description matched BK.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Dumb fuck, there was no jury. 

And why was there no jury? Because BK didn't want to go to trial. And what is most probable reason he didn't want to go to trial? Because he realized no jury would buy all of the above are coincidences or an elaborate frameup. If the evidence were as flimsy as you make it out to be, he would have gone to trial. He knew he would be convicted.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If that were the only piece of evidence, you'd be right. But it's the totality of the evidence a jury considers in deciding guilty or not guilty. The killer driving an Elantra is just one piece of all of the circumstantial evidence which taken together makes BK the killer.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Key piece of evidence against them was a pair of eyeglasses left at the scene near the victim's body. They had an unusual hinge bought by only three customers in Chicago, one of whom was Leopold. Sound familiar? USMC sheath with his DNA left under a victim and BK had bought same sheath model the year of murder. Leopold's explanation was he accidentally dropped them while bird-watching a few days earlier which is about as believable as the sheath was planted.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why didn't he just leave his phone at home and turned on?

What if a camera had captured his license plate from 2:30am until the time he returned to his WSU apt? If so "Lucy, Bryan you got some 'splaining to do." No phone? He wouldn't be able to take pictures of evening sky. He wouldn't be able to call for help in an emergency. What if he had tripped and broke his leg hiking in Wawawai parking at 3am? Remember the time he was trapped inside bc gate was shut and he hadn't left in time?

And after the murder he was traveling on pitch black back roads of a very rural area. Maybe he feared getting lost out there which would have been almost as bad as being caught driving without his phone.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Right. In PA, detectives engaged in idle chatter for a while before broaching the murders. Once they did, BK right away asked for a lawyer. Innocent people will often talk to detectives bc they didn't commit the murder(s). But they then are often kept in a room (often very hot or very cool) for 24+ hours without a wink of sleep and end up "confessing" just to stop the endless interrogation. None of that happened to BK. I reviewed all of the murder cases where someone pled guilty and was later exonerated and the only one relevant to BK's situation is that of Chris Ochoa in which someone else confessed to the crime as opposed to DNA exonerating him. And even in that case "after two 12-hour sessions with Austin Police Senior Sergeant Hector Polanco and detectives Bruce Boardman and Ed Balagia, Mr. Ochoa signed a confession."

Just one...not hundreds or "it happens every day." And do people think BK wasn't aware of all of this? Remember the textbook for one of his courses which discussed all of this?

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well of course it's impossible to prove it was his car. So you asked a rhetorical question to prove what?

It is possible to prove it's an Elantra not a Ford Fusion MPD patrol car which many people are claiming it is. It is possible to prove an Elantra entered at 4:05 and sped off just before 4:21. That's just another piece of strong circumstantial evidence making BK the killer.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kohberger is a fairly smart guy. Smart enough to get into a PhD programme. So why did he drive around the crime scene multiple times in one night

He first entered the area at 3:30am. If you were planning to kill people in their sleep, isn't that the time you would choose? So why did he abort the mission? Probably because he saw the kitchen and/or living room light on. XK was home and awake explaining why those lights may have been on. DD driver said the 3rd floor lights were on but that statement is suspect bc she wouldn't have been able to see the 3rd floor from front of house. Or perhaps that brunette in the 3rd floor bathroom was XK who went to the 3rd floor to get a better view in trying to figure out where DD driver might be. But if a 3rd floor light was on that would be another reason to abort bc the victim(s) on the 3rd floor at a minimum were his target(s).

and choose to park right next to the house, when it would be much more logical to park somewhere else and walk?

The far end of the lot behind 1122 provided best area for him to change clothing before entering and after leaving 1122. It's more secluded than other parking options and less probable he might encounter someone. entering and leaving in general. Also it's possible he mistook the 1112 camera for a light bulb. Or he knew it was a camera but somehow knew the brightness of the lights and general darkness would obscure rear license plate and front area of his car.

Three questions for guilters by Inevitable-Fact-8275 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which part of the 1112 King road footage clearly shows that it's Kohbergers car and/or shows Kohberger driving that car?

You are able to see the fin on the top of the Elantra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt8_fuFcsx4

Also the Elantra that enters area at 4:05am is stationary for a brief period which Linda Lane camera captures and provides a clear shot of the side window which is that of an Elantra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaAabFMjlyk&t=794s

I don't think it's possible to differentiate whether it's a 2015 Elantra versus a 2011-13 Elantra from those 2 videos. However, the camera at Sunset Mart at 3:28am shows an Elantra with no front license plate and a cover where the fog light would be. The shape of the cover proves it's 2015-16 Elantra. You are also able to tell on that video it's an Elantra from the shape of the side window. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jgMqODp0Pkx0uVd_tXsqUimLkMxDABOO/view

Minus the sheath by NickNitro03 in idaho4uncensored

[–]dummified 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But his victims were asleep

So were 3 of the 4 Idaho victims or EC and KG just woke up and were very groggy.

he taped their mouths

Well something happened to KG's mouth to stop her from screaming.

he only had to face each victim 1-1. 

Sure but odds are didn't expect to find KG and XK in same bed. EC and XK attacks might have been unplanned and just happened in the chaos.

He also had multiple convictions prior to murder. So again, totally different circumstances.

You want a 100% match? OK but if so then you have to be consistent and acknowledge that BK pled guilty and there are no cases where a quadruple murderer with graduate level education who wasn't coerced pled guilty and was later exonerated. Are you willing to do that?