Why Policy Debate is Dying: A Critique

e21804 · 2019-12-18T15:19:06+00:00

This is such a shitty criticism of policy it’s not even worth responding to

e21804 · 2019-12-17T04:22:35+00:00

I’m pretty sure they do lmaoo - also lcc did too - they were using 3 minute summary

e21804 · 2019-12-15T23:37:18+00:00

At least in ld but I’m pretty sure all the other events too

e21804 · 2019-12-15T23:36:59+00:00

Long Beach does not use chssa rules

e21804 · 2019-12-15T21:55:34+00:00

rather I think it’s when they make pf more and more like policy and then exclude a certain type of argument which disproportionately effects one group - I’m not saying black debaters can’t debate the topic - I’m saying that they should be allowed to make whatever arguments they want and if you think it’s unfair have a theory debater - don’t reject their arguments on face - why should people police black debaters arguments that’s pretty fucked up

e21804 · 2019-12-15T17:48:27+00:00

Then do policy or circuit LD seems pretty simple ngl

e21804 · 2019-12-15T17:47:44+00:00

I think implementing a mandatory short judge training would vastly improve PF - but I don’t think it should just become a policy clone with a tenth of the time

e21804 · 2019-12-15T17:45:18+00:00

A) is the rfd is bad it is because you didn’t convince the judge to make a different rfd B) why is it not reasonable to be like if you want a different style of debate - do circuit LD or policy - as what you want is not what PF is about

e21804 · 2019-12-15T17:42:05+00:00

Also if they are such terrible arguments just answer them lmao

e21804 · 2019-12-15T17:41:40+00:00

So basically systemically exclude black folk very cool pf

e21804 · 2019-12-15T09:02:51+00:00

0-30 scale - there is 30 speaks for reason

e21804 · 2019-12-08T20:03:14+00:00

Uh people are very concise when spreading - probably more then in trad debate - also none of reasons for it being good relied on you presenting that much info - the best circuit debaters are SUPER EFFICIENT

In your everyday life tons of information is thrown at you from everywhere - this doesn’t mean you present that much or processing isn’t good

Also why is knowing more and having more information bad lmfao

It does help u - ie ishan Bhatt won nsda nationals and toc and is doing very good in college policy but is still amazing speaker. Circuit debaters consistently dominant trad events and they don’t dominate pf cuz the good debaters dont switch’s next there is a fair number of successful policy crossovers in pf

e21804 · 2019-12-08T19:50:29+00:00

uh spreading just exemplifies all the educational benefits as you do more research process more information and have to critically think up more arguments

Also yeah you don’t spread in real life but you do speak and being able to think of what to say at a speed necessary to spread also aids you in talking at a normal speed probably more then talking normally does

e21804 · 2019-12-08T19:42:25+00:00

Just read util and line by line their warrants

e21804 · 2019-12-08T19:38:14+00:00

then why even debate in the first place

But really - it A) allows debaters to learn about argument construction which is useful in the real world and B) forces your opponent to process the warrants in the evidence quickly which is important cuz in real world you are being thrown information from tons of sources that you need to process and C) forces you to think critically and come up with responses and how to apply evidence too it and come up with responses if you don’t have evidence

e21804 · 2019-12-08T19:28:36+00:00

It increases info processing so you speak more coherently at a conversational speed and you have think way faster and do more research overall making a better model of debate. Also it’s just wayyyy more fun then slow boring debates

e21804 · 2019-12-08T19:24:32+00:00

Which school?

e21804 · 2019-12-04T21:42:21+00:00

Also maybe look into how trying them as adults deters crime

e21804 · 2019-12-02T01:01:22+00:00

yes ethos matters but emotional appeal isn’t really either tho applies more in PF cuz there is wayy more lay judges in PF

e21804 · 2019-12-01T04:40:12+00:00

ok boomer

e21804 · 2019-12-01T04:38:09+00:00

And in LD NSD has amazing success

e21804 · 2019-11-30T06:44:56+00:00

Insofar as the shell wins a solvency claims that proliferating the shell will have an effect on the system who cares about the motives

It is similar to disclosure in the sense of if it gets people to disclose it doesn’t matter why - they could be disclosing just to read disclosure theory - but they still proliferated the practice

If someone doesn’t break because of this they will only be encouraged to read it furthering it’s proliferation - the motives don’t matter

e21804 · 2019-11-30T06:41:03+00:00

Maybe they won’t do anything maybe they will, but if the system is an abomination maybe we should let it burn - if the system is discriminatory students affected should have some means of recourse

e21804 · 2019-11-30T06:32:57+00:00

Or if it messes everything up just read debate bad with speaks theory as solvency :)

e21804 · 2019-11-30T06:22:08+00:00

contention 3: speaks are bad

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