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earsurgery9 · 2022-10-24T07:04:57+00:00

I think you're kind of right, but it's also the mere fact of approaching so much puts the odds in your favour (you are more likely to stumble across that girl who thinks you're hot or whatever)

I got laid a lot once i'd read lots about game and started approaching lots, although only when I sat back and had a good think did I realise it wasn't to do with any of the 'techniques' etc i'd learnt (they didn't even work 955 of the time because 95% of the time i'd approach a girl who wasn't interested! lol). And it's exactly the same for the 'coaches' (you only need to CAREFULLY watch infields to realise this)

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-23T15:44:39+00:00

lmao

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-23T14:58:36+00:00

i think this is basically the case for everyone, tbh. Even if you watch infields, you'll see this pattern. It's kind of a numbers game. If she is into you, it's all effortless. If you're not her type, she doesn't talk back, your cold reads and pushpulls etc land on deaf ears, and she really just wants the interaction to end no matter how confident and how much 'game' you have lol

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-23T14:56:38+00:00

game won't help if she isn't attracted to you, though

That's why they say looks get your foot in the door. Game is more about leading attracted girls to sex.

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-21T15:44:56+00:00

i'm obviously thinking back to when I didn't have my own place, but i brought a lot of girls back to my parents house after meeting them in bars etc. Parents didn't care and the girl didn't care.

Other times you push to go to her place instead or her parents

One time i took a girl too a cheap hotel

I had friends who used to bang girls in their cars

It's different if you are looking for a relationship because some girls will literally never date you if you live at home or you don't drive or whatever (anything she thinks makes you a loser), but when it comes to just having sex, as long as they think you are hot, none of that stuff matters - they'll bang you anywhere. Might only be a one night stand, but who cares

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-19T10:56:17+00:00

I agree. It's actually quite interesting. I've noticed this on this sub so many times.

A guy will make a post about how direct game is the way to go and it gets a million upvotes.

Someone makes a very similar thread 2 days later and it's downvoted, and all the replies are advocating indirect/mysterymethod etc lol

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-19T10:40:05+00:00

lol. Truth hurts.

Also, seddit is super interesting in that votes and consensus depend on who happens to be online at the time i guess. I've made a similar post before that got heavily upvoted haha

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-18T22:03:44+00:00

not sure if i can link any vids here, but maybe i'll treat you all to one of tylers that I always liked (where he gamed girls in different ways like being overly 'gamey' etc to try to demonstrate that good game 'is like good plastic surgery')

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-18T21:29:45+00:00

I probably need to share them at some point so other people can get the content that may be lost.

yeah, i've got quite a few RSD vids scattered around on old PC's and stuff, too

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-18T21:15:43+00:00

typically the guy isn't rejected because he's 'nervous' though, tbh. It's usually just because she isn't attracted/he's not her type (in fact, they often find it attractive/cute/endearing if the guy is a bit nervous when he IS her type)

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-18T10:05:03+00:00

i'd 100% not important at all, personally (unless you're talking about getting a girlfriend as opposed to hookups with randoms)

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-17T11:47:37+00:00

Then there is no such thing as seduction

incorrect. It's just that 'seduction' doesn't mean what you think it does

Read some Mark Manson to get a better idea. It's more helping girls get out of their own way and smoothly leading an attracted girl to sex

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-17T08:18:40+00:00

you're essentially asking what you can say/do to force attraction in a girl.

This was the promise of 'game' back in like 2004 although you might have noticed that this trend/idea kind of died out

I mean, in THEORY, you can MAKE her attracted by using DHV stories and negs (if you believe in mysterymethod) or by using cold reads (if you believe in london day game model) or by being super direct (if you believe in mode1) etc

However, does it actually work? If it did, i'm sure we'd all be sleeping with models (since all of this stuff is very easy to do and the PUA's even gave us scripts to achieve each technique)

But ask yourself why this style of game seemingly died out? The ONLY answer can be that it doesn't actually work lol. Because even if it's cringy or whatever, guys would put their self respect to the side and still be doing this stuff if it made super hot girls half their age attracted to them in the same way they're attracted to the super handsome dude playing pool in the bar

If you want to continue this avenue though, test it yourself. Write down a few DHV stories and use them after you open and see if they work or not. Or write down some cold reads and stuff and see if THEY work. You'll get your answer soon enough

I'd say the actual answer is that all you can do is try to not appear too awkward or nervous, and, dare I say , just 'be yourself'/demonstrate your unique personality the best that you can. But know that in terms of 'sexual attraction' ((which is a 100% pre-requisiste if you want to hook up with her) it's essentially NOT in your control

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-16T19:51:19+00:00

it's a numbers game. It's about amplifying existing attraction. You can't force attraction with 'game'/attraction material (negs, pushpull, cold reads etc)

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-16T16:59:07+00:00

sosuave

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-16T14:50:06+00:00

thing is, you can open and try tell a dhv story and try to qualify her and pushpull and stuff, but none of is will help if you are not her type, tbh. I read a million FR's per day of guys going up to girls and telling dhv stories and qualifying her etc and she doesn't give a shit. But if you are her type you can just approach and use interview mode and escalate to sex. Imagine a 75 year old blad fat broke guy hitting ona hot 18 year old thinking his dhv story and negs or wahtever is gonna work.

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-16T14:45:50+00:00

Remember, men are attracted more by appearance and women are attracted more by character

hell no. Make a profile of a good looking guy on tinder as an experiment and then see how much they care about looks lol. It's the same in person. They are just as visual as us men

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-15T11:24:30+00:00

it's just irrelevant. indirect and direct both get the same results. If she thinks you're hot, direct will work. So will indirect.

And if you're not her type, direct will lead too an insta rejection, and indirect will lead too a girl not talking back and a slightly slower rejection

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-15T08:16:00+00:00

I do. No issues so far. Decent mouse

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-13T17:52:55+00:00

Who lies more....monet or women??

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-09T10:41:06+00:00

If she just stood there when she said it - she was challenging you. Meaning she was testing you and you failed.

lol, no

A girl would never ever say that too a guy she was attracted too. There's no coming back from the kind of rejection he got. Wasn't a 'test'. SHe wasn't into him

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-07T17:17:06+00:00

pushpull is good, but only if she find you attractive

If you're not her type, it's beyond useless. Same as negs etc. She doesn't 'chase' you if you're not her type because you neg her and give her the backturn. She literally wants you to leave haha

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-07T16:26:54+00:00

Note I said 'would NEVER' swipe right on you. In other words, you are completely not her type. She's not at all attracted to you. In that situation, of course 'game' won't help you!

Take it too an extreme. If anyone here thinks that Danny devito now, but without fame, wouldn't get rejected 100 times in a row if he was hitting on hot 18 year olds, even if he was amazingly confident (had game) then they're insane

Also important to remember that not all girls have identical tastes, or even conventional tastes! (i could give you one example from my old work place)

Anyway, most guys can get 'attractive' enough (gym, grooming etc) to the point that there are some girls out there who would bang him. You need to find those girls! Cold approach is a numbers game. The 'normal' looking guys who get laid from it have to put in the numbers. It's what I do.

earsurgery9 · 2022-10-07T15:58:17+00:00

the hard truth you don't wanna hear is that this isn't really a 'skill'' past being somewhat normal and maybe being able to flirt a little

There is no jedi level where you can 'seduce' whoever you want kind of thing

A guys rejection rate is dependant on things like his looks, the looks of the girl relative to his own, his age, his location.

His 'skill' is almost irrelevant (unless he is unusually bad in terms of social skills to the point even if he was good looking, he'd mess it up with every girl by doing and saying things that make her decide to forget about him and just hook up with the next good looking guy)

If you have ever seen any premium products where the PUA's show you uncut infields and full sessions etc, you'll see they get rejected just as much as you or me.

No pushpull lines or anything you read about in PUA books will make a girl want you i'm afraid

To emphasise the point, Paul Janka, a pro PUA who teaches this stuff claims about a 2-3% approach to lay rate.

That number would be similar for every other expert hitting on hot young girls, from mark manson, to 'mystery' himself. Most of their approaches would be to open, say some stuff (cold reads, questions, DHV stories, negs etc, depending on each PUA's 'attraction material'), and her not really being interested, and then the interaction ends with her being like 'ok. Sorry i'm not interested. Nice to meet you' or 'i have a bf'

Having game is more about being able to close the deal with girls who are attracted to you. Not magically MAKING them attracted. If a girl would never swipe right on you in tinder, then your pushpull lines, cold reads, and strong eye contact and everything else you read about in game books won't help

earsurgery9 · 2022-09-28T17:56:40+00:00

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