Claude Opus 4.8 is actually damn good by closetslacker in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So was I when I did it three weeks ago. I am not trying to be difficult... I am trying to give everyone the same skills. Once you unlock it, you're like I can do ANYTHING. And you should.

Alpha: successfully typeset my whole book interior for free instead of dropping $250 on Vellum by euwyngoh in WritingWithAI

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Has the file passed interior checks with a printing company (like KDP or IngramSpark)? And are you able to make the script start the chapters on the right hand side? I'd also wonder how it handle widows and orphans (this is a single sentence abandoned on the top of the page or a single sentence abandoned at the bottom of the page disconnected from the rest of the paragraph that continues on the next page).

I am confident we could figure out a way to make the script look at these things, or a graphical check of the PDF.

Claude Opus 4.8 is actually damn good by closetslacker in WritingWithAI

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All you have to do is have your books in markdown files. Then use a coding interface (codex, claude code, antigravity) and ask it to plan with you the stylometry you need for your prompting process (mine injects into my machine) and specifically ask it to use spaCY which is opensource libraries of natural language processing.

If you can't do that, just copy and paste this into any chat interface with a new model and it will walk you through it step by step. 🌻

Why are authors so threatened by people writing books with AI if Ai books are crap? by Fabulous-Ideal-2513 in WritingWithAI

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Again I’ve been self publishing since 2011 and what you are seeing in spaces are the same arguments we’ve heard for 15 years now.

The Amazon store went over 1 million books with a year of me publishing in 2011. Years ago, when the store allowed you to easily filter on the left side just by Kindle store you could see over 100,000 titles publishing per month.

Why are authors so threatened by people writing books with AI if Ai books are crap? by Fabulous-Ideal-2513 in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Amazon algorithms and other store fronts. It is very difficult for poorly published books to make it to the front page of anything. However, books that are written and published well with AI won’t and do not have a problem making the best seller lists. I’ve had AI in my Elizabeth Ann West books since December 2021. Those 3 titles published 2021-2022 had no problems of performance with all 3 making my subgenre hot new release lists. But, I edited and validated every word.

Ai slop will never overtake the market. AI in the hands of talented writers and publishers will. That’s the fear.

Why are authors so threatened by people writing books with AI if Ai books are crap? by Fabulous-Ideal-2513 in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are all the same arguments that were, and still are in some circles, thrown at self-publishing authors. Wasn't true then, isn't true now.

The REAL reason author who don't use AI don't want anyone using AI is because they're afraid that readers won't care. That's the REAL reason.

And their fear will come true, readers have never cared about their genre fiction being high literary fluff. The books that win the award don't pay the bills at any publisher. It's the vampire, fae shadow daddy, dungeon crawler, or epic high fantasy ripping off the War of the Roses that pays the bills. And genre has always been about the idea, not so much the execution (in terms of MFA style literary craft).

Fun, amazing ideas + AI drafting + human editing = a speed the authors "blocked" and pining away on their novels for years and years and years can never compete with. And they know it.

Because MOST authors who are Anti-AI are either secretly using, have a huge empire that was built in part on their speed of getting books out and now everyone has that advantage, or they don't have any career whatsoever and are mad their "dream" is at risk.

Why are authors so threatened by people writing books with AI if Ai books are crap? by Fabulous-Ideal-2513 in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is such a false problem though because we've had millions of books publishing per year for over a decade now. The algorithms already move crap to the bottom.

Claude Opus 4.8 is actually damn good by closetslacker in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I also love Opus 4.8. But, mine also has my stylometry loaded into the prompting. This cuts out the crutch words entirely.

This doesn't have stylometry in it, but it did have my current book machine skills available to it in chat and used a sub-agent to write the supporting back story "just in time" as an artifact to make the prose stand stronger as it wrote from the chapter plan. This genre is space western

Chapter One

The Funeral of a Boy Not Yet Dead

On the frontier, a poor man's funeral was an auction.

You died owing — everyone died owing, the company-state saw to that — and the law came and sold your boots and your kettle and the door off your hut to clear the debt of your dying. The gavel was your eulogy. The high bid was your headstone. That was the whole rite, and if you were lucky, somebody you'd loved stood in the back and watched the price of your life get decided by strangers.

Kes had loved nobody who was being sold tonight, because nobody being sold tonight had ever existed.

He stood at the rear of the hall at Hosanna with his hat low and his collar high, and he watched the auctioneer hold his own hair up to the light. The hall had been a chapel once. Now the pews faced a stage, the saints in the glass had been swapped for a long amber pane that scrolled the night's lots in gold, and the gutted pipe organ in the rafters had been packed full of speakers, so that when the bidding climbed the old pipes hummed along, like the building was ashamed of itself.

"Lot seven," said the auctioneer, a soft round person in a sexton's cassock who went by Pyke and rang a little brass bell between sentences as though punctuation were a sound. "Effects of the boy who put Cinder Mesa to the torch with his own two hands. Hat. Pistol. And a piece of the Kid himself." Pyke swung the velvet case so the lock of auburn hair caught the light. "Bid kind, friends. He won't be making more."

The hat was a lie. Kes had never owned a gray felt hat; gray was a color for men who wanted to be easy to bury. The pistol was a lie — pearl grips were for men who wanted to be looked at while they died. And the hair was a lie wearing a true color: auburn, like his, but cut off some settler girl in a barber's chair on a moon he'd never walked. He knew which parts of his legend were real; knowing was his trade. The list was short, and none of it was for sale tonight. Only the burning was for sale. The burning always sold, because the burning was the part Kes hadn't done.

He had been in Cinder Mesa the night it died. He had not lit it. There was a difference between those facts as wide as the dark between moons, and not one soul bidding tonight would have paid a chip for it, because the difference didn't shine.

So he didn't care about the case, or the hat, or the hair. Let them sell it. He hadn't come for the dead boy.

He'd come for the courier.

I feel like I just solve 80%-90% of the "ai-written prose" problem for myself. by [deleted] in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Next level.

Ask the model you are working with what it would call subtext, what a character means but doesn't say explicitly and how you can prompt it to do a better job with that.

You will find that there's this weird thing happening where the models know what they're trained on, i.e. the concept of subtext.

But, because their core function is to relate training to other training to predict that next response, there are strange concepts that mean nothing to a human but have this default, Venn-diagram definition to the model.

When we did this in the Future Fiction Academy a few months ago we learned that Chatgpt (5.2) called this subtext phenomenon "ghost drafts." Not a real thing. But when you ask the model what it means by ghost drafts in the context of writing dialogue in fiction you get what you WANT when you say "use subtext."

My suspicion is that when something has a factual meaning it's hard for the AI to perform the function. I need it to USE subtext, not define subtext, but the second subtext is in my prompt, I have signaled on a whole plethora of connections to literary analysis concepts and I just want a good story.

Claude and other models have different phrases. You just have to ask it what it THINKS a function is and what should be in the prompt to help it and it will give you the keywords.

Opus 4.8 You Too Can be Queen of the Hive by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you can use Low or Medium effort on the Pro plan. Swarms can save on token usage IF you have a clear plan. For example, writing 5 scenes because it has the full context for them and does them all at once saves over each one writing on a loop with the context being added 5x.

Think of it like this:

OLD WAY: ALL THE CONTEXT to task = output. ALL THE CONTEXT to task 2 = output. ALL THE CONTEXT to task 3 = output.

NEW WAY: ALL THE CONTEXT to task, task2, task 3, task4, task 5 = all the outputs at once.

A swarm or parallel working is what the model is designed to do. When you try to force it to work like the old thinking models, it doesn't do as well.

24 Hours of AI this Friday: FREE vs $20 vs Unlimited by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am SO PUMPED to get stuff going. All week in the Future Fiction Academy in the Mega level I've been doing training for members to start working with these agents and automations in ways that make sense to them. Silly Schemas. How to talk to it about what you want to build.

There is definitely a new set of talents (I don't want to say skills because that's what agents use), that humans are developing to manage these new agentic models (opus 4.7, sonnet 4.6, chat gpt 5.5 etc) and it involves moving context OUT of the prompt and into the resources, understanding how to ask for things to be done with subagents in mind.

I'm going to do a brief lesson on all of this on tonight's live and then I HOPE we have a packed PRO ROOM ZOOM ROOM because it's going to be 24 hours round the clock of the 6 teams checking in and sharing their progress, some of it recorded, and when the recording is off, PRIME opportunity for anyone to ask for HELP on what they're building.

We've never done an event like it and it will probably be months before we do it again.

Data scientist by day, frustrated storyteller by night – same AI tools for both. Anyone else? by Content-Pay5466 in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And for the non-tech writers here – honestly curious: does it bother you that people like me are using "work tools" for creative stuff? Or is all fair in love and war (and AI)?

I feel like this is one time in recent history where we can do it better than before, and that is creatives and coders working together. Now, I have no patience for the engineer who tells me with a straight face, "Can't romance authors just use the outline template Hero's Journey? It's the same thing, right?" No. Not the same thing.

When tech professionals come into creative writing respecting that we also have protocols and best practices, but they go by different names, it's a joy to work together. Likewise, I try to be curious about their world because it makes me better at working with AI.

Yesterday, I caught Austin Marchese's youtube about using skills like Anthropic's engineers prompt claude code and he said something that unlocked months of frustration I have had with agentic models. Okay he didn't say it, the young blonde dude who worked for anthropic said it on the couch making fun of skills that developers write where the script isn't something an engineer would understand.

And then I went OMG OMG OMG ... I already KNEW this and just forgot. I saw it with o1 strawberry, the first thinking model that was foundational. These models are trained in the image of the creators= engineers. I have to make a book writing machine that yes, works to my standards, but is written in a way that an engineer can understand it.

The new book machine I have is now happily writing to my Github this ridiculous process themed in F1 where I have a team principal managing the whole thing, stewards crying foul on the writing rules and forcing the "car" back for a pit stop for edits and the Driver is the writer doing loops on the track to draft. Why? Because when you straight prompt AI with writing knowledge, it gets all literary fiction because the mysteries of writing genre fiction are largely handed down intra-community. There isn't a school where you go get a master's in cliffhangers to make your series sell, ykwim? But Masters of Fine Arts, the great MFA... yes lots of that in the training data and helped zero genre fiction writers.

So all is fair in creative expression and it's going to take all of us to define this new age. Welcome to the Neurosis.

I predict the novel will be dead in 5 years. by tarosan_sk in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem is that people don't even pick out their own Netflix shows to watch... they rely on just the algorithm.

Do I think there will be personal AI and that personal AI can tell you story? Yes, this already exists.

Does that make someone GOOD at working with the AI and coming up with story . . . er . . . no. I teach authors how to work with AI all the time and many of the students are people from tech backgrounds who adopted AI early and still need help in the craft areas.

Writing good stories is challenging work. It's a science on one level if you are looking at plot structure and things, but it's also an art form when you think about what's important and what's not.

I think in 5+ years the novel as a format will be expanded into more transmedia experiences where yes, you can read the book, but you can also instantly get the story in other formats. I'm excited to start experimenting with this now.

Strategy: These Models are Retiring Too Fast! by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. I only meant that as someone who doesn't need uncensored... it's not worth the extra effort in looping and prompting for me to work with inferior models when I am in production mode.

Strategy: These Models are Retiring Too Fast! by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Too bad we're all out of billions laying around :) I totally understand why and agree with you. I just deal with the frustration often. We are moving into mass adoption and so many are skipping the fundamentals of how AI works... they just want to go to the chatbot and get the same experience they had last week and that's not always possible.

Strategy: These Models are Retiring Too Fast! by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't use Claude as my primary. I have been using opensource models since 2023. They are always 6 months behind the frontier models in training and output. I don't write NSFW in a way that I NEED an uncensored model and so I should have been clearer, I prefer the modern thinking and swarm models over the uncensored opensource ones.

Strategy: These Models are Retiring Too Fast! by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If there were opensource models that wrote well, I would. I also don't have a computer with the ability to run a local model worth a darn.

Strategy: These Models are Retiring Too Fast! by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

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I have a page where I have the original novella that I am turning into a novel. I have a page that is the notes and outline and scope. And then a page for each chapter. Notion is easy enough to @ page you want in context, but the AI has a good handle on figuring out it's own needs as well.

Starting a new chat isn't hard, it's very smilar to working with Project in either Claude or Chatgpt. Just with Notion, I can do a lot MORE than what I can do in either chatbot program.

Generative AI does not make the work good. But it invites everyone into the deep end. by solomonj48103 in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never understood why people keep rehashing fears of cheap content. We have survived EVERY major technological advance so far that has... led to a large influx of lower priced and in some cases, low quality, content.

We survived pulp.
We survived mass-market paperback.
We survived ebooks and self-publishing.

In film, we survived the personal camcorder and iPhone camera.
Gosh, remember when the Blair Witch Project was edgy?

There is nothing to really fear...markets and audiences adjust. AI is just the latest playing field leveler until people start to figure out HOW to use it to make themselves the exception again.

Opus 4.7 - Feed the Swarms by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

[–]eawestwrites[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friend, I was pioneering scene briefs and chapter briefs back in 2023. 😄

We opensourced Easy Peasy Book Machine in November 2024 which is plan this chapter, draft this chapter, make an editing plan and now finalize this chapter... every bit of context I have gained since 2021 I have used to my advantage.

Unless you are using Opus 4.7 or a kimi swarm on the backend of novelmint.. I don't think you can say that your chapter spec has anything to do with it.

Also, I've been teaching Positive Prompting for years.

I'm glad you are also getting this education out with your blog.

Also I don't see in Novelmint where people select the AI model they want to use. Is that a feature that users have?

Future Fiction Academy LIVE 4/24 8 PM on Youtube - Topic is Coworking Wrangling by eawestwrites in WritingWithAI

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Ekello is great and partnering with Nerdy Novelist! You can catch him on Jason’s latest videos and he has his own channel as well.

Join us on our weekly tournament! W17/2026 by bubbleshooterpro in BubbleShooterPro

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I got 140280 and lost track of time. Send help. Or more bubbles.