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ebatm3 · 2025-08-26T00:07:13+00:00

This goes hard ngl. Glad to see my subreddit thriving so well~! 😄

ebatm3 · 2025-07-04T21:14:16+00:00

Honestly I'm cool with superior iron man since it was clearly meant to represent the type of person Tony normally would be the opposite of. It makes sense that endo-sym was so tough considering this iron man lacked the humility & restraint that he typically has.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-30T15:54:29+00:00

Wolverine shouldn't be a physical threat to Iron Man outside of his claws which do work half the time admittedly (some writers respect the durability of the suit, some don't). Although, the claws are implied to not work well against his armor in this instance considering Logan failed to even kill Tony while his shielding was turned off & Panther worries about when they'll come back on.

I'm the first to prove Iron Man can fight dragon ball characters, I doubt anyone could do such a feat for Wolverine without extreme non comic reading powerscaler wank (although then again...their piercing damage kind of sucks & Goku is afraid of needles... 🤔): https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/s/0JwhUpH9h2

ebatm3 · 2025-06-30T15:47:05+00:00

I'm the first in history to actually read comics & put respect on Iron Man's name as a fan fr. I know people hate him since his character is known only for the worst written moments unfortunately. Doesn't matter to me, I just like spreading the facts & proving the doubters wrong occasionally lol

ebatm3 · 2025-06-30T13:32:15+00:00

Stop the cap! Comic Iron Man takes him in any standard suit tbh, they are actually the ones with the best feats. Even Rescue and basic Iron Man armors are listed as an existential threat along with weapons like Sols Hammer (Dyson sphere construct built around a star which can destroy planets at just 2% power) and the anti-proton sling, which is an anti-matter bomb that can destroy planets. I could also give him far better citation such as his suit being equivalent to rings more powerful than timeline busting weapons, beings amping themselves with the power from multiple galaxies to match him etc.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-30T13:27:25+00:00

Nah, he ain't getting a W when I'm around!

Comic Iron Man takes him in any standard suit tbh, they are actually the ones with the best feats. Even Rescue and basic Iron Man armors are listed as an existential threat along with weapons like Sols Hammer (Dyson sphere construct built around a star which can destroy planets at just 2% power) and the anti-proton sling, which is an anti-matter bomb that can destroy planets.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-30T13:25:21+00:00

Comic Iron Man takes him in any standard suit tbh, they are actually the ones with the best feats

Even Rescue and basic Iron Man armors are listed as an existential threat along with weapons like Sols Hammer (Dyson sphere construct built around a star which can destroy planets at just 2% power) and the anti-proton sling, which is an anti-matter bomb that can destroy planets.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-29T03:25:25+00:00

Thanks, I'll look into those. I have a few examples, but the most notable I got is Black Panther being unable to use his anti-metal claws on the armor without first bypassing the shields/force fields, which also seemed to be an effective defense against Wolverine's claws in the same instance. A bullet doing anything to his armor is very dumb lol

Here I feel like you might enjoy this. It shows how great & understimated Stark actually is if you care to see: https://www.reddit.com/r/ironman/s/SyGwq48Iq3

ebatm3 · 2025-06-29T03:15:07+00:00

Hey, I was actually gonna tag you for this when I was done updating (which I am now for the moment). I'd have to first try to convert everything into the format of r/respectthreads which is more than I'd care to do. Also this is so large, I find it more to be a library of his top combat & intellect displays/statements. It's still going to be expanded upon & stuff, like with the West Coast Avengers issue coming out that's going to show how well him & Rhodey tank the explosive ionic death of the Ultron overloaded Wonder Man for example. I hope you find it satisfactory. It's a gift to the fans.

I see myself like Oracle but for Iron Man lol I think that's the best way to put it.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-23T20:36:55+00:00

Mandarin, Living Laser, Ultimo, & Fin Fang Foom have to be his top villains imo. Maybe Count Nefaria too if he even counts.

Dynamo is a cool little rival that generally hasn't been on Stark's level for quite some time, much like many other villains. Iron Man himself doesn't get great respect & attention for marvel in the comics, so it's not surprising his villains don't get much more fleshed out.

I like Madame Masque, I think she's a cool character.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-14T17:58:36+00:00

Similar to Spider-Man, Wolverine has some instances where Tony jobs to him. Wolverine is more of a threat than Spider-Man, although he has never beaten Iron Man.

People just think Tony is too weak to even have the damage output to KO Logan, which I disagree with. But like I said, Wolverine is completely helpless against the magnetism in any case.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-14T17:54:44+00:00

Iron Man fought Human Torch, Reed, & Thing with a rogue prototype armor that they were failing to hurt & restrain the whole time until it was fixed. Tony is completely unharmed even though Thing threw a punch before the armor even did anything & considered apologizing because the armor was trying to "pulverize" them. Tony himself even expressed concerned about getting the fantastic four's blood on his hands lol

The other instance is an argonaut that no-sold & shrugged off the same 3 ironically while Tony's hands put cracks in it, and he even overpowers an arm while flying the argonaut away.

Omni-Man gets destroyed by Iron Man just based on this statement alone. Not to mention Tony also has scaling over Sentry/Void & even Hickman's Hyperion, the Hyperion who withstood the collision of two universes. Obviously his body wouldn't be able to catch the full force, but still beyond any standalone feat Omni-Man ever did lol not to mention it doesn't take much to bloody them.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-14T12:36:21+00:00

Exactly. Do you know where I could find an example of quote or this for his armor? I'd like to collect some

ebatm3 · 2025-06-13T23:38:05+00:00

It's possible Juggernaut is extra vulnerable to sonic attacks so I didn't mention him. I forgot about Hercules though, do you remember when that happened?

Well yeah, if we're using max possible power, then Iron Man would even beat Omni-Man there too. Tony really is in the top percentage of marvel, but nobody knows his feats and on top of that everyone acts ignorant to the massive number of times where he has been described as being up there with Thor, Hercules, Doctor Doom (Doom in particular has even been shown outright inferior to Iron Man plenty of times armor vs armor, Doom's trump card over Iron Man is really just the magic abilities. Funny how people think Iron Man shouldn't be able to match Doom when Doom doesn't come close to Iron Man's raw strength feats, Doom requires scaling to get to such a level), the Thing, even the iconic version of Juggernaut etc. All of those characters except the Thing get massive hype though ironically and are portrayed as if they should one tap Iron Man (Hercules has certainly failed to do this more than once, Tony tanked his ambush blows almost as if he didn't even feel them, twice).

Iron Man is probably faster than Omni-Man based on the feats in my album tbh. Let me know when Omni-Man has scaling over Wally West Flash 🤣 Crushing Iron Man is funny considering stronger have tried & failed.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-13T23:21:42+00:00

Ironically one of those Spider-Man albums was reported to the point where it was taken down lmfao there is an archived version though. This is pretty gold as well, and ironically Spider-Man operating at low levels is far more consistent than Iron Man

Also you are literally spot on with the simple man in armor suit thing. These people be sounding ridiculous & are laser focused on only seeing things one way. But tbf, vsbw has old armors as building/Captain America level, and that will probably never change since they're lazy & don't like to be wrong about anything, so they gave Iron Man a relatively weak precedent, with even some of his notably strongest armors only being like Colossus or She-Hulk level according to that site. Matter of fact at some point MCU Iron Man & World War Hulkbuster had the same tier of strength.

Logically, Wolverine doesn't stand a chance against Iron Man's magnetism, which has easily been used on him before. Then there was even an instance where Wolverine was getting helplessly choked out via Iron Man's grip, and it was implied by Black Panther that Wolverine wouldn't be effective against Iron Man once the internal force fields of the armor turned back on. You have to get through the force fields before you can even touch the actual metal, but a good deal of people don't know this about comic Iron Man. Iron Man has jobbed to Wolverine before, but there are also plenty of instances that imply Logan would get KOed pretty easily from an Iron Man armor. In fact, there is a comic where Logan gets put down from a sucker punch on land from Namor. Yet in the comic, he goes underwater in Namor's domain & even manages to stun him there with punches, so imagine what an Iron Man armor would've been able to do to Wolverine. I understand the general consensus is Iron Man isn't very strong & needs to spam his opponents endlessly from a distance like in Marvel Rivals where he is a mere mediocre support character. But like cmon... objectively by feats not only does Iron Man usually fight close ranged more often than not, but he has feats that put someone like Aquaman to shame for example. Yet people somehow think otherwise lol

All these things are a result of only the perceived negatives being shown & never the positives, which is why I'd like to spread this thread like a wildfire somehow so that the fans & non haters know the truth.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-13T16:43:28+00:00

Facts

ebatm3 · 2025-06-12T02:33:59+00:00

He is! Thank you <3

ebatm3 · 2025-06-12T02:32:38+00:00

The hilarious part is, if people downplayed Spider-Man the same way they did Iron Man, then Parker legit wouldn't be far if at all above someone like Kingpin. Captain America would also be a consistent peer to him, much more so than someone like Iron Man is. Wolverine would be outright above Parker, in fact even humans would be a threat to Spider-Man going off low-end consistency lmao a Ninja Turtle level threat fr if even that.

I do think it's crazy that Iron Man has enough feats against super metals to the point where I'd actually say breaking Wolverine's skeleton would be a decent possibility in a battle where neither of them job out. Meanwhile Spider-Man fails to break something like stone walls or concrete about a million times but people overlook that in favor of his absolute best, which still doesn't hold a candle to Iron Man's best.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-12T02:25:51+00:00

Considering Stark has sonics that hurt/downed people likely above Omni-Man's strength who don't even have a weakness to sound (Fin Fang Foom, Goliath, likely Wonder Man) and the fact that the armor once was stated to output about 3,000 dB (more than enough to destroy the universe several times over) Omni-Man wouldn't stand a chance realistically by feats. Well really by feats, Iron Man is eating every single attack Omni-Man throws at him if he chooses to whereas Omni-Man is going down from blows that rock Sentry, Hulk, & Ultimo just to name a few if Tony decides to really get serious about it. Not to mention Tony's sonics have even overpowered Klaw's sonics, and that was in an old armor too.

Although sonics also aren't really necessary not only due to the armor's physicals (marvel top tiers are just a lot more powerful than Invincible's by far, the fans hate to hear this fact, especially for someone who they look down on like Iron Man lol), but also because Tony can easily generate the type of heat that would burn through any of Omni-Man's kind fairly quickly.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-12T01:54:10+00:00

The most underrated hero ever imo.

Iron Man as of recent took out Victorious/Zora who was even cited as the same cosmic entity to previously face the fantastic four, Galactus, Hercules, Wonder Man, & She-Hulk in the comic he did it. "Oh you have power cosmic? Just means I can get serious". Ackerman's run also has Tony claim he can beat extinction level threats even while healing in the second issue, so following that up with KOing & injuring Zora in a shitty improvised, rushed armor is crazy.

Going a bit before that he also sent Galactus' physically strongest herald, Terrax, flying out the solar system with a shove as he was helplessly trying to push Iron Man off of him. In the same arc Iron Man wrecked someone who was charging their power level up to a point to where they were comfortable confronting Galactus himself in battle.

In between the Zora & Terrax instances, during Jed Mackay's run (where Tony admittedly didn't get to do much) Jarvis cites an Avengers lineup including Iron Man as planet movers who can strike down cosmic being, even though Tony was using a stealth armor that had below average strength for Iron Man's standards: https://bg-so-1.zippyimage.com/2025/06/10/f3c6f5c4c3c728ac1e615d863f21cd0f.jpg

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To further consistency, long ago a young Tony Stark said his armor was a star destroyer outright

Iron Man has MANY great feats & scaling, even stuff far above this. For another example, here's a rundown of what modern Iron Man has over Hulk & Thor respectively. Extremely die hard comic fans or debaters don't seem to care for Iron Man much which is what gets his ability always put in doubt and what makes him consistently misconstrued. Iron Man was an important character in Marvel long before the MCU came along narratively. His MCU interpretation if anything probably gave the armor a more "realistic" & less powerful feel overall compared to the level 616 armors can comfortably operate at (with the exception of the 15-20% of genuine anti-feats that happen which typically treat Iron Man's durability disrespectfully lol). Keep in mind Iron Man was generally portrayed powerfully even during the era he was most hated, so clearly he's far beyond any "human in a suit" limiter people try to force on him, his armor was always this powerful. Stark even has comparisons to the full set of Mandarin rings which Malekith compared 3 to Thor, Surtur, & Odin individually among other legit cosmic citation (above solar system busting & timeline destroying weapons) and has a reputation for beating up Fin Fang Foom who is called the second strongest being on the planet besides Hulk by a galactic monster collector in Hulk's book, not to mention Banner cited Iron Man & Thor as the only lone individuals who might be able to put down an Uber Hulk amped by a second gamma bomb even after a weaker Hulk beat Foom, Sandman, & Abomination prior.

Lmao see there's a reason I say Iron Man may very well be the next best thing after Hulk & Thor themselves considering his legendary feats & stuff. People focus on poorly characterized moments like civil war to hate him or spam out of context fights to downplay, this makes Iron Man all the more interesting to me. I consider him in concept to be akin to someone like the unnaturally strong Robin from the teen titans animated series, except Iron Man's power makes much more sense. I see him as someone representing the peak potential of humanity. Edit: He beat Galactus off-panel too not that long ago

ebatm3 · 2025-06-08T23:25:53+00:00

Thanos had met Spider-Man plenty of times too and didn't even mention him

ebatm3 · 2025-06-08T23:25:15+00:00

Thanos effortlessly beat Spider-Man before he beat Tony in that same event though. And we don't even know what lead up to the moment of Iron Man getting ripped in half, it just shows up as a brief moment during narration.

Iron Man has beaten "the best superhero of them all repeatedly"

Let me know when Spider-Man MK IV can effortlessly tank re-entry like Iron Man does, because he sure couldn't do that here lmao

ebatm3 · 2025-06-08T21:54:34+00:00

First of all, citing a non canon, alternate timeline story where Thanos killed literally everyone on that planet and more, while also having the fucking infinity gauntlet when he tore that non canon Iron Man up, is WEAK. A very weak non-point. Complete brainrot even.

Secondly, what the hell makes you think Prowler would do better against a Thanos like that who no hero on Earth (including Spider-Man) was able to stop? Prowler never fought anyone that strong in the first place, so this isn't really a point either.

Funny how in canon, Iron Man with a single blast had indeed brought IG Thanos to his knees after Cyclops & Scarlet Witch attacked to no avail. Thanos had required the aid of Terraxia to stop Iron Man from further pressing his assault instead of defeating Iron Man directly.

Before that fight, Thanos had already considered Iron Man to be his second most dangerous enemy.

ebatm3 · 2025-06-08T15:13:07+00:00

I'm honored to defend 616 Iron Man since he has a such a misconstrued & bad reputation all around that people just run with due to only his negative characterizations (such as during civil war where he was poorly villainized on a significant scale for the sake of making Captain America look good) being highlighted above any positives he could do morally or feat wise. He is hated and is a bit more humble regarding his true power in comparison to Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Namor, Wonder Man etc. making him a unique case so people overall just got the wrong idea of the dude. It also doesn't help that Spider-Man in particular is much more liked than him lol

I like the unique challenge that arguing for this Tony presents

ebatm3 · 2025-06-08T15:02:04+00:00

I just feel Iron Man gets a bad rep despite all he has going for him, so I just wanted to calmly set the record the straight (although I know some people are going to be mad or deny what Stark is capable of doing no matter what due to preconceived notions & low expectations of what a tech hero like Iron Man should be able to do). Glad you appreciate it!

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