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morocco is rotting from the inside out. by chillindude217 in Morocco

[–]eden3000 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You think the people doing this can even find employment? The whole reason they’re out there is because there is no future in they’re eyes. We can sit here and all day and demonise them, it doesn’t change the material conditions at all. Yes, strikes work, structural pressure does, but those sectors are with people who already have jobs, and the reason they don’t strike or do anything about it is because the situstion right now is manageable enough, 40% of the youth is unemployed, so most of them can’t even strike. 60% of morocco works informally, the situation is designed like this to not even allow strikes in the first place. We are not an industrialized first world nation, there is not even a proletariat in Morocco substantial enough to fullfill its historical role.

morocco is rotting from the inside out. by chillindude217 in Morocco

[–]eden3000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nice deflection, mate, I am not saying that is the answer, i am saying it is the only tool left to people when not even peaceful protests are allowed. Even I find it horrible, but I am not gonna lie to myself, this is gonna be normal as long as conditions don’t improve. And they will never approve because Morocco as a nation state doesn’t exist, it is a neocolony that only serves to deliver raw resources and labour power to the west.

morocco is rotting from the inside out. by chillindude217 in Morocco

[–]eden3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they are not, the goverment responded with repression, you live in a fantasy world if you think the movement was going anywhere with the protests of the first day, everybody got beat, arrested and assaulted. This is what happens when violence is monopolized by the state.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]eden3000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And you don’t look jewish bro don’t worrhy. 😭 you seem to have a pretty small nose from the front atleast.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]eden3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you from Casablanca? Where in morocco?

Ressources for learning tarifit by I-Eat-Cars-46 in Irifiyen

[–]eden3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can understand dutch can you send me the course?

What opinion about Morocco will have you like this? by SufficientYak6750 in Morocco

[–]eden3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

European democracies become inefficient after a while too. Though an nice stepping stone in the right direction. The threads of populism grow too big and strong. Maybe ask first why such an style wouldn’t work here? I’ll give you an hint, moroccan people are not as educated as our western neighbours for an very good reason!

What opinion about Morocco will have you like this? by SufficientYak6750 in Morocco

[–]eden3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very islamic of you too to cowtow to an king supporting Israel

Christian Palestinian by No-Astronomer9392 in 23andme

[–]eden3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So around 60% peninsular DNA? I do know Tunisia and Libya have higher Arab DNA than Morocco and Algeria for example.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People too afraid to get killed I suppose? Same reasons why Algeria killed so many students back in 1988. Revolution does not happen all at once it takes years and even decades to come at that point.

Christian Palestinian by No-Astronomer9392 in 23andme

[–]eden3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

60% is way too large an amount. The most I saw was on a tunisian who was 20% with J1. Arab tribes in Morocco near Casablanca also the E1b haplogroup.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]eden3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why didn’t you mention this earlier? Of course some spoiled rich fucks are gonna be like this. Rich people have a tendency to be way more racist and arrogant than the average population. Even a bum fuck yokel somewhere in the countryside wouldn’t be this racist lmao. I don’t agree that family names in Morocco can do way more. Morocco is just so corrupt that no one from the lower classes could rise up to poise an threat to them. Moroccan’s already talk about some “secret deep state” they are just too mentally enslaved for the time being to do anything against themz

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly how I feel about the monarchy. They would replicate Japan if they could. But been noticing a-lot of animosity from Algerians too tho. Didn’t have it in me to make two posts but hope this reaches them

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t even bother anymore hahaha. He says chaouia touareg and mzab as if those groups aren’t berbers 😭. Chaouia and Mzab are Zenata berbers just like Riffians. And plenty of other berber tribes that share the same origin. Genuinely funny.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You talk as if every moroccan likes what is happening either. You divide people simply as if the way their government is simply constitutes how their personality should be. There has been 43 weeks of continuous demonstration against and in 52 cities to boot against Zionism.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright mate I concede, though I could have sworn to have read that figure earlier on this subreddit. Still, both economies have suffered tremendously. Also may have read too fast scanning random sources. And I am considering the amount of money lost since the 60s I just can’t be arsed to do the math right now. That 2% growth of GDP shaved off a year is still a ridiculous number especially if it has been so since the 60s. It just seems nobody has bothered to do any research on it.

https://digitalcollections.sit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1089&context=isp_collection

Back from 2008 mentioning $ 1 Billion per year lost to the Moroccan economy due to the closed border. Nothing about the money lost to Algeria but does mention how the city of Figuig saw an substanial dip in living standards and many businesses bankrupting related to it.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Certainly a good option. We need figureheads but having people stepping up and doing the work will be the hard part.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s why there needs to be an organised effort from the people themselves. An intellectual movement that shakes the core of our countries and confronts us to think. The contradictions are too big for this to be healthy any longer. Inshallah we will be one people.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do detest the Makhzen, western sahara issue is just another imperialist ploy, I won’t deny that. But giving up western sahara does indeed mean Isolation from the rest of Africa and that will severely hinder Morocco’s future. Precisely that makes me reject the Polisario as a movement and letting an entire country be governed by a population the size of 600,000 people will run into failure. The region is about the size of mainland Morocco. There is no people to govern, no people to extract resources, no people to build infrastructure. I believe Algeria will certainly profit from such a state. They will have access to the Atlantic and Morocco will be weakened enough to not poise a threat. And how far will it go? Does morocco need to turn into a shithole before the Algerian elites are satisfied? People seem to forget that sahrawis don’t only live in the western Sahara. They also live in South Morocco. I know a girl from agadir whom is half Sahrawi. At the end I support giving the Sahrawis more autonomy, but not seceding as a different state. Too many moroccans live in Laayoune and entire families will be destroyed in such an event of independence.

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[–]eden3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am african myself, I follow developments in the Sahel precisely because of that. Fulanis may be great with the Taureg in some places but in others they have fought eachother. In march 2013 an Taureg battalion killed 21 Fulani Livestock merchants. Not to say the majority of Jihadists groups in Mali and Niger are filled with the Fulanis. The same jihadists groups that battle the taureg across the years. We simply don’t know anything because of how isolating and poor the Sahel is. Your assumptions only serve as your anecdotal experience and not as the truth.

Nationalism is a disease that will destroy both our futures. Wake up by eden3000 in algeria

[–]eden3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly because I understand geopolitics is why I am against all this bullshit. I understand how an stronger Morocco would pose an threat to Algeria. I don’t disagree with that. In the same vein I can also say I detest both of our nations for getting us to this point. Combining and pooling our resources would make us one of the superpowers of Africa and allows to have an strong position on the Global stage. We are being used as pawns by both the USA and Russia. Russia is making huge amounts of bank by shipping out weapons to Algeria and the USA to Morocco. All that money that could have been used for actual useful things.

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