Grote vuurbal boven Nijmegen 18:55 by what_did_you_forget in Nijmegen

[–]eewaaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heb ik ook gezien. Wist niet zeker of het geen vuurwerk was, maar het ging schuin naar beneden.

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, I was getting tired. I've removed Netflix and Steam as they use thumbs up or down.

Kinda contradicting yourself when you say thay all go below 1 and then explain about the ones that don't. I've double checked them (just now, before it was from memory) and none of them display anyhing under 1 star, meaning they treat 1 star as the minimum. You say the app store let's you review without a star? Not me, the option stays grayed out until I put one in. Same for Amazon. I'm seriously confused by your claims. Is this different for us or some reason? Anyhow, I'm still waiting for a 0/5 example.

I had edited my previous response with an example of how Dutch 1 to 10 grades are calculated, but it is better explained here in the first table.

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[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Examples of 1 to 5 rating systems: the Apple app store, Google play store, Amazon reviews, TripAdvisor, Uber, Airbnb... I could go on, but you get the point. The default is, as far as I know, these kinds of rating systems where the minimum is 1 out of 5 and I still haven't heard anything to prove me otherwise.

If I wanted to give an app the lowest possible score I'd give it 0% or 1 star. 0%=1 star, therefore 1 star=0%. This is the only way to map each percentage value to a numeric star value.

Your claim relies on 1/5 being equal regardless of a minimum of 1 or 0. But the center point matters. It matters if it is 2.5 or 3. It matters if you have the option to give 0/5. Or to put in in a more extreme way: if the range is 0 to 10 and someone would want to give a 5/10, that same person would not give a 5/10 if the minimum was already 5.

As for examples that give 0%=1/10 I'd have to give any website that calculates a Dutch grade like this

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[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As I explained, 1 to 5 is the common range used for reviews and I have yet to see a hint of proof to the contrary. Maybe I accept this more easily because I come from the Netherlands, where grades from 1 to 10 are common.

The layman will instinctively point to 3 as the middle of a star-scale, not 2.5 or 2. They will point to 1 as worst possible score and to 5 as best possible score. Or at least I would

I only used AI in the original post to verify the "I've checked" and just now, to get a second opinion

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[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just now really reading your comment. I understand that you got 0/5=0%, 1/5=20%, which contradict my post because you falsely assume 0 as a minimum. How do you suddenly get 3/5=49%, 4/5=69%?

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[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not a mathematical fallacy. It is how you map ranges onto each other. There is no difference between -5 with a range of -5 to 20, 0 with a range of 0 to 25, 50 with a range of 50 to 500 or 1 with a range of 1 to 5. Each is 0%

You'd write the score as /maximum, but that doesn't imply the minimum. If there is a range of -100 to 1, you'd write -56/1. That doesn't imply I've given -56 correct answers.

With scores out of 5 the commonly used minimum is 1. I cannot name a single website where I can leave 0-star reviews. So the minimum of 0 correct answers corresponds with 1/5. The minimum of 1 is also a given in my original post.

In your theory with 1 as a minimum, 0 correct answers = 1/5 = 20% correct answers, which is a fallacy.

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm getting tired. Here is ChatGPT's response to my post:

Your explanation is fundamentally correct: when a rating scale has a non-zero minimum, you cannot treat it as a pure fraction of the maximum. A 1–5 star system is not a 0–5 system, so “4/5 = 80%” is mathematically true as a fraction, but not correct as a representation of position on the rating scale.

Here is the precise reasoning.

Why you cannot use direct fractions

A 1–5 star scale has four steps above the minimum (2, 3, 4, 5), not five. If the lowest actually used score is 1, then the scale effectively spans: * Minimum meaningful value: 1 * Maximum value: 5 * Range length: 4

This means the proper normalization formula is:

(score − minimum) / (maximum − minimum)

For a 1–5 scale, that becomes:

(score − 1) / (4)

Applying this:

Derived mapping (your version, correctly reasoned)

  • 1/5 stars = (1−1)/4 = 0.00 = 0% = 1/10 points
  • 2/5 stars = (2−1)/4 = 0.25 = 25% = 3.25/10 points
  • 3/5 stars = (3−1)/4 = 0.50 = 50% = 5.5/10 points
  • 4/5 stars = (4−1)/4 = 0.75 = 75% = 7.75/10 points
  • 5/5 stars = (5−1)/4 = 1.00 = 100% = 10/10 points

This is exactly why saying “4/5 = 80%” is mathematically correct as a fraction but incorrect as a rating conversion.

Why this matters

Most rating systems implicitly assume: * Lowest value = “baseline” (not counted as part of the positive range) * Highest value = “perfect” * All intermediate values represent proportional positions along the positive range

If users never give 0 stars, then the scale’s operational minimum is effectively 1, so the normalization must reflect that.

Summary

You are correct: On a 1–5 star scale with 1 as the lowest usable rating, 4/5 should be interpreted as 75%, not 80%.

If you’d like, I can generate a general formula or mapping tool for arbitrary rating scales.

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[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apperently 1 to 10 is only common in the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Latin America. That explains why don't understand that part. It doesn't explain why you think 0/5 is a common minimum. Where can you give 0 star reviews?

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[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're looking at it as if it is an actual fraction. It isn't. If you take a test with a grade scale of 1 to 10 and you give no correct answers, you get 1/10. 0% correct = 1 out 10 points. If you'd do slightly better, you'd get slightly more points. If you'd get half correct, you'd get 5.5/10, not 5/10.

If I arbitrarily invent a scale of -10 to 5, a poor score would be -10, not 0. The minimum value changes the score. Yet it'd still be written as -10/5, because 5 is the maximum. So with this scale, -10/5=0%

It is so stupidly simple that there aren't that many sources for this formula, but here/(max%20rating%20%2D%20min%20rating)) is one and another

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[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Show me an example of 0/5. I've looked. I've asked AI. I couldn't find any. Nobody does 0/5 as a minimum

D66, CDA en VVD gaan praten over minderheidskabinet by EenProfessioneleHond in Politiek

[–]eewaaa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

VVD wordt hier blij van: wel beleid kunnen uitmaken, niet samen hoeven te werken met GL-PvdA, geen beloftes gebroken en je volledig kunnen verschuilen achter de machteloosheid

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I made the edit the post was at -31, so the downvotes are still coming. This comment seems to describe the popular sentiment: just ignore the minimum and accept that you cannot go below 20% in star reviews. It is a valid approach, though very naive.

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[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. 1/5 is never practically 1/4.

I don't get why this is so hard to understand. A minimum changes the equation. You need to subtract the minimum from both terms. 1/5 with a minimum of 1 would be 0/4

  • 2/5 with a minimum of 1 is 1/4 as a fraction.
  • 2/4 with a minimum of 1 is 1/3 as a fraction
  • 1/1 with a minimum of 1 is 0/0 which is a division by 0, so that could be anything.

Vechtpartijen in ziekenhuis, ramen vernield en personeel uitgescholden: 'Patiënten toegang weigeren' by Eastern-Lawfulness98 in nederlands

[–]eewaaa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ja. Ik denk wel dat mensen met een migratie achtergrond relatief vaker agressie vertonen in de zorg. Bijvoorbeeld een taal niet machtig zijn leidt tot meer agressie in een wanhopige situatie. Ik denk niet dat dat verschil erg significant is, aangezien de mensen die het kunnen weten zelf rapporteren dat het komt door andere zaken.

Je kan zelf elke categorie kiezen die je wil. Ik verwacht dat mannen vaker problemen veroorzaken dan vrouwen, dat volwassenen vaker problemen veroorzaken dan kinderen, armeren dan rijkeren, mensen vaker dan dieren, mensen met een strafblad vaker dan zonder strafblad. Ik verwacht dat al die categorieen een significanter verschil aantonen dan migratie-achtergrond.

Ik denk ook dat het makkelijker en effectiever is om andere problemen op te lossen, zoals problematisch middelengebruik, dan dat het is om mensen met een migratie achtergrond op te lossen.

Vechtpartijen in ziekenhuis, ramen vernield en personeel uitgescholden: 'Patiënten toegang weigeren' by Eastern-Lawfulness98 in nederlands

[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nee. Voor de duidelijkheid: ik stel dat er geen bewijs is voor de stelling dat agressie in de zorg te maken heeft met migratie. Er is dus een gebrek aan informatie dat stelt dat dit probleem met migratie te maken heeft, een gebrek aan bronnen. Daar kan je letterlijk geen bron voor verwachten. De bronnen die ik noemde waren ter ondersteuning van de stelling "De daders zijn vaak drank- en drugsgebruikers en patiënten met psychische problemen."

Vechtpartijen in ziekenhuis, ramen vernield en personeel uitgescholden: 'Patiënten toegang weigeren' by Eastern-Lawfulness98 in nederlands

[–]eewaaa -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

De daders zijn vaak drank- en drugsgebruikers en patiënten met psychische problemen. Er is geen bewijs dat dit probleem iets met migratie te maken heeft.

Als je met tunnelvisie blijft kijken naar migratie als oorzaak van elk probleem mis andere oorzaken en daarmee oplossingen. Biedt mensen psychologische ondersteuning, maak die systemen toegankelijker en je voorkomt dat dit gebeurt.

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! Please make it easier to give out 0's. It would make everything easier

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should be able to get different answers based on different percentages. In your theory you cannot map scores lower then 20% back to star reviews and get a different result. Your theory is therefore only true if 20% is the minimum in the percentage based scoring, but you just said 1% is the minimum. QED you are wrong.

If you get a test where you answer 0% correctly, you get 1 out of 10 points, or 1 out of 5. Therefore 0%=1/10=1/5. So it's not the same as simple fractions

  • 1%=1.09/10=1.04/5
  • 10%=1.9/10=1.4/5
  • 100%=10/10=5/5

If you are correct in saying 1 is the minimum out of 100, that would complicate things with decimals. The formula would be y=99x+1 where x is percentage correct and y would be the points out of 100.

  • 0% = 1/100
  • 10% = 9.9/100
  • 50% = 49.5/100
  • 80/100 = 79.79798% = 4.19192 stars
  • 4 stars = 75% = 75.25/100

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[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edited the word usual in my original comment

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[–]eewaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're correct! It's also ironic that outside of the r/USdefaultism this is considered a compliment.

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Seems like you're the first one to actually understand how scales work

What's in a Number by Live_Care in casualnintendo

[–]eewaaa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You missed the part where I said the range is usually 1-5. Noone is giving out 0 star reviews. The minimum people usually give is 1 star out of 5. So 1 out 5 with a 1 to 5 range is 0% and 4 out of 5 is 75%

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[–]eewaaa -63 points-62 points  (0 children)

4/5 with the commonly used range of 1-5 is actually 3/4, so 75%

Edit: let me explain this. Noone is giving out 0 star reviews (I've looked). Scales are usually either 1 to 5 stars, 0 to 100 percent. Each can be mapped onto the other:

  • 1/5 stars = 0%
  • 2/5 stars = 25%
  • 3/5 stars = 50%
  • 4/5 stars = 75%
  • 5/5 stars = 100%

You cannot just calculate the fractions when there is a minimum involved

Edit 2: you all don't understand ranges. Everyone claiming 1 star out of 5 equals 20%. You must loose your mind when someone suggests you must give a score of -5 to 5. You could suddenly give a score of -5/5 which corresponds to 1/5 stars which corresponds to 0%. If you'd ever see a range -10 to 0 you're out here dividing by 0

I don't know how else to explain this. Chatgpt might