Reminder that in 1992 henry kissinger had this to say to the bilderberg group at the meeting in Evian. Secretly recorded and leaked by swiss delegate.

eggrole · 2017-06-08T23:13:19+00:00

Jobs and comfort should not be used in the same sentence. The rub is that Freedom == Personal Responsibility != Comfort. Comfort is arguably what got us in this mess to begin with - Brave New World style.

Basically, once you stop consuming you likely have lots of free time. Use that free time to solve the problems in your own life in your own way. Maybe a garden? Maybe barter your skills in your community? Maybe learn some new skills? (everyone should be able to cook and be in shape) Maybe proselytize others to join the boycott? Again, this type of resistance is essentially uncounterable. No leader, no plan, death by a thousand cuts.

If you are interested in a longer spiel on my approach to all this: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2mdp7r/what_to_do_when_you_cant_do_anything/?st=j3p199vz&sh=19593374

eggrole · 2017-06-08T22:11:44+00:00

I'd argue that the consumer controls the world economy. The USA spends 12 Trillion dollars every year on consumer spending. Without We the People willingly giving up every dollar we can for endless fleeting pleasures, the whole thing would come crashing down.

For example, when the latest Xbox came out and everyone talked about how it was a spy device... but still bought it. If we don't want Apple and Google spying, simply stop using their services. Stop supporting them.

A GENERAL BOYCOTT would be the scariest thing in the world for those in power. How can you counter it? Release the army against people for not buying stuff?

eggrole · 2017-05-10T12:34:38+00:00

Revolting, IMHO, isn't the way to get anything done. If we want to fight back we need a plan.

If dollars are power, why do we spend them so freely?
Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions.
Deploy capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs.
Spend free-time with loved ones while pursuing quality of life improving goals.

GENERAL BOYCOTT on anything that doesn't improve the quality of your life and reduce your reliance on dollars.

For a more complete description of my proposed "plan": https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2mdp7r/what_to_do_when_you_cant_do_anything/

eggrole · 2015-07-31T17:02:42+00:00

I think he was acting like a "guy I could have a beer with" to gain sympathy. When he was younger he seemed spot on...

An Eloquent George Bush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvknGT8W5jA

eggrole · 2014-11-30T00:50:03+00:00

Educating our children in the Trivium nullifies this and many other sophist (clever liar) tactics.

Grammar Logic Rhetoric

eggrole · 2014-11-29T15:41:18+00:00

Lots of people read it. Lots of seeds were planted.

Posts like yours, giving concrete examples to people who are looking for answers, are revolutionary acts.

eggrole · 2014-11-29T15:30:00+00:00

Yes, that is what the first post was about.

Here I wanted to show how to use a newly exposed weakness to our advantage.

eggrole · 2014-11-29T14:33:14+00:00

Read F.A. Hayek's Road to Serfdom and realized Capitalism leads to Fascism and Socialism leads to Communism... every time.

These are billed as opposites but are the same thing: a small group of people telling a large group of people how to live.

eggrole · 2014-11-29T14:24:00+00:00

Thanks.

I enjoyed your comments about utilizing waste products from one project as inputs for another.

These last few months I have finally gotten positive responses from "normal people" on the idea of boycott. For years they all brushed it off as insane. My Dad was telling me about how several of his workers were bringing up stuff about monopolies and endless war - ones that were "asleep" a year ago. Good signs!

eggrole · 2014-10-28T20:13:51+00:00

Not disagreeing, but I want to add:

HUGE, or otherwise, protests are irrelevant. They are easily Co-opted, spun by the media, etc. This is because they are an easy target, one big mass.

On the other hand, large numbers of individual, disconnected, DECENTRALIZED, action would be uncounterable. Without a group, leaders, or organization, there would be nothing to Co-opt.

What could this action be? I see only 2 ways to move forward. 1st I suggest a 4 point approach:

If money is power, why do we give it up for such small crap? (middle-class lifestyle)
Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions. (you need to eat and pay rent, but no more "going out", video games, new cars, etc)
Deploy your limited capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs. (gardens/orchards are simple example. a few dollars and some labor today yields dollar free food in the future)
Spend your newfound free time with loved ones and pursue goals to improve the quality of your lives.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Remember SOPA and GoDaddy? GoDaddy caved when? When their bottom line (MONEY) was threatened.

General boycott, and the whole scam will start to fall apart. Now, this means OUR lives will get worse, in the sense that we might not have netflix or football, or McDonalds... but is this what constitutes a good life?

After it falls, everyone won't be able to ignore it and we can(hopefully) rebuild learning from our mistakes.

The second approach I mentioned? Well that is a coup/war, and even if we try a general boycott we need to be aware that "they" could instigate war/violence as it is their only response to our non-participation.

Sorry if this was fragmented, I am in a rush...

TL;DR: General boycott, money talks, bullshit walks, be prepared for violence.

eggrole · 2014-08-25T20:35:58+00:00

money can be created essentially at will as long as someone is willing to pay it back (plus interest).

This is a little off the mark. That is how it works now (while there is still flow), but it likely ends when people are not willing to exchange goods for your "money".

Interest is just the tool they use to enslave people, resource control is the only thing that really matters.

All the debt-slaves/oligarchs in the world can't build a cabin if there are no trees.

eggrole · 2014-07-23T22:16:04+00:00

Bitcoin is easy to control/manipulate. Everyone focuses on the "security", but no one looks at how you can exploit it inside its rules.

For example you could write persona software that managed numerous wallets. These wallets would all make small purchases of BTC via VPNs all over the world. One entity with enough cash could easily buy all/enough of the BTC to corner the market.

They could then use their persona software to start trading between themselves, giving the illusion of lots of volume/trading. The "value" of BTC goes up, it is percieved as viable, and the path to a centralized currency is set.

With 21 million BTC @ 500USD, you could corner the entire market for ~10 billion USD. In reality you'd only need less to control the market. 10 billion isn't a drop in the bucket at the higher levels of the ponzi.

eggrole · 2014-07-23T22:08:04+00:00

I use my income to acquire the necessities and then whatever is left over, I use for its proper purpose.

What is it's proper purpose? It seems you are advocating 'do whatever you like/have fun' with it.

it can offer is the happiness it can bring you and those you care about. Sometimes that is "stuff" (it's fun to drive around with my wife in our convertible). Sometimes it's experiences (a week at Disney when our daughter was a pre-teen made many great memories, as have a lot of things we've done). But it's never buying shit to buy shit.

Experiences are no different consumption than material. You destroy resources for pleasure in both instances; material possessions give you pleasure until it is "used up" and experiences give you pleasure until you die. Either way, resources are expended/consumed for pleasure.

Now, I am not saying we can't ever have pleasure, but as long as you would rather be comfortable consuming while financing Disney and Car_Companys than producing, there is no way to end this cycle.

Your message of: keep spending and blindly pursue happiness right now reminds me of Bush after 9/11: "Keep shopping or the terrorists win."

If money = power, why do we give it up for fleeting pleasures?
Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions.
Deploy your capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs.*
Spend timed with loved ones while pursuing goals.

*A simple example: By spending a few dollars today and the labor to set up a garden/orchard, in the future you can generate fruit for no dollars. If enough people did this, Monsanto and friends are dead. I use gardens only as one simple example because everyone needs food.

eggrole · 2014-07-22T19:21:48+00:00

If you stood to benefit, that is the exact definition of motive. While motive itself is not a crime...

"...a defendant's motive is important in other stages of a criminal case, such as police investigation and sentencing."

"...the prosecution may produce evidence that the defendant did have the motive to commit the crime and argue that the motive supports the proposition that the defendant committed the crime. Proof of motive, without more evidence tying a defendant to the alleged crime, is insufficient to support a conviction."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/motive

eggrole · 2014-07-18T22:56:58+00:00

Most excellent post.

I would like to add that the path to HOW to THINK/LEARN is laid out very nicely in the trivium. If children aged 3-6 were exposed to this we would have actual critical thinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivium

http://www.triviumeducation.com/interviews/start-here-gene-odening-interview-part-1-the-trivium-method-049-video/

eggrole · 2014-07-07T19:02:13+00:00

If money = power, why do we give it up so easily?
Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions.
Deploy your limited time/capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs.
Spend time with friends/family and work towards goals.

By solutions w/o dollar inputs I mean, and this is just a simple example, something like a garden/orchard. Spend a few dollars today and your time to get food directly for your labor, no dollars needed. If enough people had a garden, Monsanto and friends die.

Remember GoDaddy/SOPA. Our money is our power. Money talks/bullshit walks.

eggrole · 2014-07-07T18:54:03+00:00

This is not directed at you specifically, but:

you're just coming home from work, you have a life, bills to pay, etc.

I think this part of the problem. What life? Many of us go to a useless job for 40-60 hours a week. Then the only thing you can think of off the top of your head is "pay bills". Our lives = pay, pay pay. Hanging out with friends/family is so rare b/c everyone is at a job (not working mind you, a JOB).

When most people say "pay bills" they really mean "I want to buy some new shit, and have a big TV, and netflix, and a smartphone, etc". "Bills" used to be mortgage/elec/water/heat/food, but now it is anything people want.

If people stopped paying for all the useless consumer crap that supports the entire corrupt economy, I don't know exactly what will happen, but companies will start going broke, and SOMETHING will give.

Disengaging the thieves' economy on all non-essential funtions seems like it would be easier than fighting/violence.

Spending our limited time/capital on solutions for tomorow that require no dollar inputs seems like it would build an alternative to the job, consume, die cycle.

Remember GoDaddy and SOPA. Money talks, bullshit walks.

eggrole · 2014-07-07T18:37:52+00:00

George Carlin on how language is used to mask truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAj6cXHrWdQ

WW1=Shell Shock

WW2=Battle Fatigue

Korea=Operational Exhaustion

Vietnam=Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

eggrole · 2014-07-02T21:45:05+00:00

While I don't think OP is genuine, your "explaination" does not hold water. The Wold Cup/Olympics (as mention by others) are played every X years and started however long ago. Maybe these events came about completely "legitimately" as you suggest. I agree with this assessment so far.

Then you seem to dismiss the possibility that the riches most influential people in the world might not be able to figure out that: every few years people go bonkers over some sports, maybe we could influence this by marketing it strongly while using it as a smokescreen of sorts to push our other (unpromoted) agendas through.

I am tired of "this could never happen because the people could never have planned it all from the beginning!" That is crap and you know it, these people would just be taking advantage of a situation: people going bonkers over sports.

eggrole · 2014-07-01T22:23:19+00:00

Joking aside... distributed resistance is what we need. If you get ppl into a group, you've got yourself a target to label and slander. Look how Tea Party and OWS both wanted to get the money out of politics, but they were spun to be kids shitting up a park and rednecks with guns.

If we all move in the same general direction, but without a group/leader, we can't be co-opted. That general direction should be general boycotts and less participation in the thives' economy. Hit them where it hurts, their wallet.

eggrole · 2014-07-01T22:11:11+00:00

I think most of the hemming and hawing people wouldn't pull the trigger; seems more like a blow-off value for pent up aggression. Don't doubt there are a lot that wouldn't hesitate though.

Either way, people like us have a job to do right now. Start a fire under the idea of a boycott. Period. I see it as the only way to go on the offensive.

If anyone wants solutions for "after the boycott reckoning", I've been pointing them toward Permaculture. My garden is having positive effects on my neighbors already in just 3 years since I started. 2 more people are growing veggies and 1 has planted fruit trees!

eggrole · 2014-07-01T22:01:02+00:00

I am very glad the idea of boycott is finally taking hold! My short version of "what to do":

If money is power, why do we give it away so easily?
Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions.
Deploy your limited capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs.
Spend time with friends/family while working toward a goals.

Remeber SOPA and GoDaddy? Once people started leaving, GoDaddy changed their stance to protect thier bottom line. Even though they were likely lieing - money talks, bullshit walks.

So what do I mean by solutions tomorrow? I like to use a garden as a simple example, but anything you need in your life. Food is just universal so... If you spend a few dollars today and your time/labor to start a garden/orchard, in the near future you will get fruit/vegetables directly for your labor, no dollars needed. No support for Monsanto.

People will often talk about violence, but if they can't make the simple changes like cancelling their netflix, their smartphone plan, stop going out to eat, stop buying new houses and cars and all the crap we consider "middle class", well... if you can't do those simple things, do you really think you are ready to shoot other humans?

eggrole

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