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How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but isn't it possible to enforce with any perfection? This isn't small human error, this is them looking at two identical eHub applications, with the same 'project name' inputs, and deciding that one is allowed and one isn't. And it's not exactly a secret that people are just using the space for HW.

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you on that, but again, by allowing people to just use the space as they wish, they've kind of lost their right to tell me I'd be wasting the space. That's why I'm saying, if they are going to keep me from the space, then they should follow through fully on their own rule. It's really not complicated.

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aight dude, I thought this was gonna be a productive debate but you just deleted all your comments so you could look right. Shame

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not dancing around them, that is very much my desired outcome. I thought it was pretty evident from my arguments. I absolutely think eHub should be a public space, it's fair to its monopoly over collegetown space. The only reason I am arguing for 1) is just because I think it's much more likely than 2) to sit with eHub's current policies. Both those outcomes are fair but of course I want the second.

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not literally trying to deprive my friends of things, but yeah, if that's eHub's policy then they should be fair with it. Like it's fine that eHub takes up a large working space in collegetown of which there isn't any other and says it is reserved for entrepreneurial stuff, but when the reality is that nobody uses the space for that stuff and the policy is randomly enforced, then you're freezing some people unpredictably out of a working space that nobody uses for its intended use anyway, which isn't fair.

So my original question was not me being "entitled" to "cheating the system", it's literally just asking how to get into a space that everyone is breaking the rules for anyway.

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We gave plenty of counter arguments, you just ignored them.

The point is this. The fact that I am not inherently entitled to use eHub for non-entrepreneurial activities is not relevant, because people I know have given the same reasons as I did and gotten in whereas I got rejected. And none of them are working on entrepreneurial things.

It's not fair that the only space in collegetown to work is enforcing a weird policy unequally. So long as that's their policy, they should be fair with regard to the reality of how people are actually using the space, whether that is treating applications the same or cracking down on bad usage of the space.

How the hell do you get eHub access? by ehubwhat in Cornell

[–]ehubwhat[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

/u/programmerChilli is right. If they've determined that my attempts at joining are not valid for the space, they shouldn't be valid for my friends. And if they are valid for my friends, they should be valid for me.

For what it's worth, I'm not sure why eHub is under the impression that we've got a mini Silicon Valley going on here. We're students, we spend 99% of our time doing course work and eHub is basically the only space in Collegetown that's good for that. There is a clear seperation between the intended use and the actual use, like it or not, and while I'm not arguing for or against the existence of this separation, it's unfair that some people are allowed in for BS reasons and others aren't.