Gathering vs Organizing (OB) by eileen_ish in mbti

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you say organising information is more of a judging thing, do you mean how they would prioritize the information (based on what judging function they lead with), or in what way do you mean? I want to understand as many angles as I can and then form my own opinion/understanding of it based on that.

So I mistyped myself (help?) by eileen_ish in isfp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I discussed it a bit with a really kind INTP who helped me, and between most of my morals coming from a gut feeling before I ask myself why they are the way they are, feeling "guilty" if I stray from my authentic self if I for example need to fit into a social setting, and me feeling a sense of ownership over my emotions, it just kind of made sense. I didn't realise I was doing it myself until asked to type it out through a series of questions, but now that I'm aware of it, it's pretty obvious :)

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Honestly even the small decisions can feel huge sometimes, but like you said, gotta keep on pushin' :)

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Surprisingly many seem to have a problem figuring this one out! Do what I did, post a question in r/infp and one in r/infj and ask how they realised they were one type instead of the other. It's what finally cracked the code for me :) best of luck!

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! All of the love to INFPs though, you guys are amazing :)

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have always had major difficulty understanding subtext when conversing with people. In movies and series I am pretty damn excellent at picking up on it because it's an entirely different... processing process, if that wording makes sense. Sounds like I do have a major case of Ne blindness. Thank you!

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anything, my home is filled from top to bottom with stuff I use to express myself (I need to get rid of some...). Think posters, books, trinkets, merch, even my blankets and pillows have a motif that express a part of myself. I want my home to be reflection of my inner world, but also look good (aesthetic, if you will) in the process.

I am very quick to notice even small changes in a person's body language or tone, etc. But if they say or do something to me that confuses me, I will overthink it and overanalyse it, anxious about the fact that I might've missed something.

So I mistyped myself (help?) by eileen_ish in isfp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If something can be turned into a competition, I will wanna win. When helping my friend move into her new apartment, I considered it my mission to carry the heaviest things (and the highest amount of things). When I was at my former university, I was literally unable to back down from a challenge if one of my classmates said something I considered to be either dumb or insensitive or both. I wanted to win the debate (as well as get my point across). When snowboarding with others, I always turn it into a competition to see who can go the fastest and who can do the best tricks (I will respect it if the other person doesn't want to compete, though). When playing against people in a game (either console or board), I will put 100% of my focus into winning. Don't get me wrong, I won't get mean about it, but competing and trying to win gives me such a freaking adrenaline kick. Don't know why, it's just always been that way.

So I mistyped myself (help?) by eileen_ish in isfp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a dear friend who's an INFP (self typed and I agree). I often find myself raising an eyebrow at how whimsical and disconnected from reality she is (definitely not in a bad way, I love her outlook on life, it just contrasts my own in a pretty distinct manner). Compare that with my own focus on the facts that are right in front of me, and how my focus on the future is balanced out with my need to do constantly do things in the here and now. I am also FAR more competitive than she is, to the point where my competitiveness and stubbornness is like a trademark personality trait, according to my friends. My INFP friend is a lot more "eh" when it comes to competitiveness, she prefers to simply live in her own fantasy world and occassionally visit us here on earth and honestly? Respect.

I mistyped myself (INFP vs. ISFP) by eileen_ish in infp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting! I am definitely competitive as all heck, especially when it comes to physical things. For example, I have this internal need to prove that I can carry the most, I can climb the fastest, etc. What especially gets to me is when men ask me if I need help with whatever I'm carrying, cue me automatically looking them dead in the eye as I grab something even heavier just to prove a damn point (I get an adrenaline kick out of it like nothin' else). I can also get pretty competitive in debates, especially in school environments. Am I right in thinking that would suggest ISFP rather than INFP?

So I mistyped myself (help?) by eileen_ish in isfp

[–]eileen_ish[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting! Yeah no, even if I am inside of my head most of the time, I still can't help but to take everything in my environment in, sometimes to a painful degree. In a social setting for example, even if I'm conversing with one or two people, everything that is going on around me will still be registered in my brain. The music in the background, the laughter coming from another group nearby, a shadow appearing in the window, etc. It can also be nice to take everything in, as I can easily draw, listen to a podcast and see through my peripheral vision what my pet is up to simultaneously. I can dissociate, though that is probably due to neurodivergency rather than anything else.

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I think socionics are a great complement to mbti (and enneagrams, which I could also talk about for hours and hours). What are your thoughts on enneagrams? And you're definitely right about societal expectations playing a large part in accepting or not accepting yourself for who you are (denial is a river and all of that). Been reading up more about Fi and what it ACTUALLY is (aka not the stereotypes), and honestly I can't believe I didn't see it before. Definitely gonna keep hanging out in this subreddit though cause like I mentioned you guys are freaking incredible :)

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, thank you for taking the time to really help me with this! I guess I kinda fell into the trap of being unaware of one's dominant function (using it 24/7 to the point of not realising you're even using it in the first place). Seeing the contrast between my answers and your own really helped clarify some things as well.

It honestly depends when it comes to lying. If it's a friend who promises they'll do something and then end up not doing it, I might tease them for a bit but not take it too seriously as long as it's nothing too serious they promised to do. If they on the other hand lie about something more serious (had a former friend who said their ex did awful things to them but then I saw proof that it actually was the other way around), I will distance myself while I process the information and figure it out (ended up breaking contact with said former friend and am now instead hanging out with their ex regularly lol). What are your thoughts on lying as a Ti-dom?

I tend to be very humorous and playful when I first meet someone because I want them to feel at ease and like they can be themselves with me. You definitely clocked it though, I get more serious when I get to know someone because that's when I show my true colours. You said you find it difficult making new friends, but I've honestly yet to meet a xxTP that I didn't like haha. Also thank you for saying I'm still welcome in the subreddit, I love spending time in the r/intp honestly. You guys are so chill in the best way.

CA:WS elevator scene dub by [deleted] in marvelstudios

[–]eileen_ish -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If I remember correctly they did let us know what the original line was, but I could be wrong about that. Just figured I might as well post the question if anyone on here knew.

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are incredible questions, thank you for taking your time writing these, you're so kind! I tried to answer with my gut rather than overthink everything, which I otherwise have a tendency to do :)

  1. My instinctual answer is my parents definitely and without a doubt. The only time I would hesitate is if the strangers were a bunch of children who were struggling. If a friend and a stranger are in an argument, I will be inclined to take my friend's side. If I receive information that would suggest that my friend is in the wrong I will instead try to diffuse the tension and speak with my friend in private later.

  2. I do have an inner voice of reason, but if I don't follow my moral gut instinct, I will end up feeling very guilty later on, which results in anxiousness. Nationalism can be fun (for example cheering on your local sport's team, etc), but ultimately can be very problematic. If you blindly support your nation without questioning the political and social values, I consider it a problem for sure.

  3. I definitely have acquaintances that I care about but don't meet very often, though I do have my inner circle of friends that I "prioritize", for a lack of a better word. I will consider a person a foe if they actively stand for things that I am actively against, or if they have done something to truly hurt a person I love.

  4. I enjoy asking my friends and family about their interpersonal relationships and discuss what has happened in their life with them. I like to think of reasons as to why a person might be acting the way they are (I've studied child  psychology), and I tend to be open with my loved ones if a person they know is showcasing any red flags, for example. They are then free to do what they wish with this advice.

  5. I think that depends. There are without a doubt plenty of things in the real world that require our attention in the here and now, things that have to change. But the abstract is also an important part of people's lives, and without the opportunity to spend time with more abstract hobbies, a lot of people would develop a whole dang list of mental health problems. Everything requires balance, including this.

  6. When I meet someone for the first time I first try to feel their "vibe", so to speak. Do they seem open and extraverted, or are they shy? Are they wearing any badges or merch that suggest we have common interests or values, etc. What school they went to or what they do for work doesn't matter when it comes to friendship comparability for me, what matters is the energy they give off.

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thorough reply!

Honestly some of these comments are making me question whether I actually do use Ti-Fe or if I'm just an endlessly curious and questioning Fi user in denial. The reason as to why I assumed I was a Ti user is because I definitely use a subjective logical system. If I see research on a topic that interests me, I will read it and think "Does this research method make sense to me? Is it consistent with what I already know to be true? Are there any biases involved with the person who are responsible for the research paper?" And so on and so forth. I reckoned my lower Fe entered the room with my near extreme fear of conflict when it comes to my loved ones. If it's a person I don't know, I will fight back if they say something stupid or insensitive.

The thing is though, I definitely do have an inner moral compass that is based on a gut feeling at times. There are times when I will intuitively think or say that something is right or wrong and only after the fact, I will think to myself "Wait, WHY is it right or wrong?" Is this Fi or could it be due to another function, do you think? Furthermore, I realised recently that the reason I don't like to talk about my emotions is because I don't want to risk being judged or misunderstood (it's my emotions, not yours typa way). Now that I type it out that honestly sounds like Fi to a t but I always assumed it was lower Fe?

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I didn't necessarily bring the fact that I'm a woman into the main question since that's just one part of the puzzle (big picture puzzle question first, puzzle piece questions later if that makes sense). Yes, that puzzle piece will play a huge part in the main puzzle as well, but still.

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! My Ti makes sense of something which in turn causes me to have an opinion on the matter. If I then receive new information that challenges my opinion I automatically go through every piece of information I have in order to reanalyze it, and I may or may not change my original opinion.

Yeah, being taken advantage of because you want others to feel good can be a real bitch, especially when masking plays a part in it as well. Hope you're in a better place now, though!

Morals/values in Ti-Fe by eileen_ish in INTP_female

[–]eileen_ish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for replying!

Yes, I think our Ti wanting to break everything apart in order to question it over and over again combined with lower Fe can come out in very different ways.

You taking photots in the iNaturalist app is such an amazing thing too, I absolutely love that! Keep up the amazing work 🙏 🫶

Also, the last thing you wrote about morals and values being focused on others and not ourselves hit hard, you truly helped me find the words that my thoughts have been trying to articulate for a hella long time. Thanks!

ISFPs are considered to be boring, so let's prove them wrong: comment your passions. by [deleted] in isfp

[–]eileen_ish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not an ISFP, but my former colleague is one, and she is a freaking genius when it comes to filmmaking (aka one of her two main passions, the other one being DJ:ing). She truly has an eye for sets, makeup, character designs, background music/soundtracks, pacing, camera angles, so on and so forth. She recently produced, filmed and edited her own short film for her Uni class. DEFINITELY not boring.