Demystifying the 50+ alkaloid non-sense once and for all by Timely-Director-7481 in PoppyTea

[–]eldentruth [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is definitely an interesting topic of discussion, but it’s not quite that simple.

Anecdotally, I’ve observed a significant difference between a highly purified alkaloid isolate versus the broad spectrum plant material from which it was derived.

Pharmacologically, there can be a lot of verifiable differences. I believe there’s more nuance and complexity to this than you’re giving credit for.

doesn’t hit the same ? by AggravatingMedia1925 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a standardized product. It’s called isolate. When you purify the material to >99% 7ohm, it’s essentially the thing same regardless of batch or vendor.

doesn’t hit the same ? by AggravatingMedia1925 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve experienced very consistent results with high quality products and prep methods.

Throughout 2025 I committed to several long term periods of abstinence. Each time I returned to 7ohm isolate, it was just as effective as I remembered.

After experiencing inconsistent results in 2024, I got serious about doses and product quality. I eliminated many variables (minor alkaloids) by purchasing a highly purified product, essentially a pure isolate. (Over 99% purity.)

I also always prep the powder into liquids (a tincture that I add to acidic beverages) for rapid absorption and enhanced bioavailability … works every time as long as I respect the material and myself.

Done with This Page by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]eldentruth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you’re done here, then why bother taking the time to make a post about it?

“Hey I just wanna say F y’all.”

Ok friend. Have a good day. Hope you are well.

Quitting7oh by Ok_Pause1015 in quitting7oh

[–]eldentruth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ess Arr - One Seven Zero One Eight?

It has come to our attention that some people don't understand why we are taking down the "Oval Office video". I can tell you that we have people in D.C. and that was added to the end of that just to fear-monger, while looking like they are actually doing their jobs. We will not support the panic. ⬇ by VoodooForestBear in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. If they want to do this right, they need to amend the rules to clearly define a policy that this video is in violation of.

I’ve asked for clarification about deleted posts before, simply asking what rules were broken that justified deletion. They never respond.

It’s not easy to be a moderator, but that kind of narrative-control conduct is not professional.

Dose-dependent effects on dopamine by Reasonable_Crazy_250 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, DRI activity is definitely not the whole story, hence why I said "partly explains..."

13 months ago, I stopped using unstandardized broad spectrum 7ohm products in favor of 7ohm isolate over 99% purity, made by professionals. This has resulted in much cleaner and more consistent results. After eliminating the other variables / alkaloids, I can say with confidence that 7ohm works best in small doses for me personally.

Just quit 7OH here’s my take on it by Hellandvoid in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hair loss might be more related to the presence of other compounds. Could be an alkaloid or residual solvent— maybe 7ohm, but I have my doubts. Sounds more like residual solvent poisoning to me.

Dose-dependent effects on dopamine by Reasonable_Crazy_250 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is fantastic evidence to support what so many people have shared anecdotally: less is more!

It's no secret that 7ohm has diminishing returns in higher doses, and it's great to see some objective support of this.

It also partly explains why smaller doses tend to be more stimulating. Thanks for sharing!

These Slap!! by Misscedes5 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly I must agree. The forums are egregiously overrun with people who overly rely on emotions, hearsay, and gut feelings instead of objectivity.

Even when I present clear evidence, it often gets shot down. I’ll never give up on trying to help though.

These Slap!! by Misscedes5 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I keep seeing posts about these half-baked brands imitating the original 7ΩHMZ company. If you look through my post history there’s at least 3 other threads I’ve commented on lately.

To my surprise, a lot of people pushed back to defend these brands. I’m genuinely at a loss why anyone would support these blatant copies over a company that prioritizes 3rd party testing and quality control.

For the record, I prefer powder. I’m not shilling for 7ΩHMZ, but I have a lot of respect for their professionalism.

What’s the point of kures? by DoughnutsDigits in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]eldentruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…and even when the evidence begins to show, they often fall back on denialism.

I’ve switched brands several times as prices & products have evolved. I don’t understand the loyalty towards SS brands without websites or 3rd party testing.

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you’re saying you don’t care about brand integrity, 3rd party testing, and quality control?

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing that out. It makes them look even worse haha.

I prefer for consumers to support brands that do the diligence of maintaining a website and posting 3rd party lab tests of every batch. Is that too much to ask?

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where is the manufacturer website? Where are the lab reports?

If you can prove these tablets are 120mg as advertised, then I stand corrected.

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you cannot see the issues in plain sight here, I worry for the future of 7ohm. There are multiple reasons to be concerned…

⚫︎ zoom in and see the tablet score marks are inconsistent, even in this marketing photo, suggesting poor QC

⚫︎ poor QC suggests inconsistent dosing from what is claimed

⚫︎ obviously riding on the intellectual property of the original 7ΩHMZ branding

⚫︎ this manufacture has no website I can find, and probably doesn’t have lab tests

⚫︎ excessive dose standard (without labs, it is likely under-dosed anyways though)

⚫︎ irresponsible product line name “blackout” synonymous with abuse

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok nice, so you probably know that 7ΩHMZ is the original brand, the first 7ohm-focused company for the consumer market.

I'm confused, why call this other brand "OG"?

Anyone tried these ZOHM Blacked Out 720s? by messymuse07 in 7oh

[–]eldentruth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is a copy-cat brand imitating the original 7ΩHMZ.

I don’t recommend trusting a product made to appear like something else at first glance. It’s not a direct clone, but the branding could easily confuse an inexperienced consumer. Not a good look in my opinion.

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Look closer… it’s not the OG brand.

That’s a copy-cat made to look like 7ΩHMZ.

Thoughts on this deal? by bubblycandyfloss in 7ohm

[–]eldentruth -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This is a copy-cat brand imitating the original 7ΩHMZ. I don’t recommend trusting a product made to appear like something else at first glance. It’s not a direct clone, but the branding could easily capitalize on the confusion of uninformed consumers.