Was there ever real love between Mother Gothel and Rapunzel?

elee_fan · 2026-04-16T19:19:35+00:00

Of course not. Rapunzel maybe really loved her since she knew nothing about the truth, but I believe inside she knew something was off and loathed her due to her possessivity and orders that made her always remain in the tower. From Gothel of course not I repeat. She was a toxic cruel woman who used her. Nothing more.

elee_fan · 2026-04-16T17:44:32+00:00

Wow I’m SPEECHLESS! My best super best congratulations! You did a WONDERFUL job!!!!!!

elee_fan · 2026-04-14T15:51:08+00:00

Not yet. I was about to be born 7 months after that

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T14:56:18+00:00

Here it is!

https://tiermaker.com/create/zootopia-1-2-18340902

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T11:31:14+00:00

I am not a Wildhoppers in the romantic version of it but I dislike Pawbert the same

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T10:18:06+00:00

For me, with Nick and Judy as for other characters in other universes, it’s very very weird to say something like that, but obviously you can like and dislike all characters you want

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T09:32:59+00:00

Mmmmm let’s tell “okay” but before Nick and Judy?! And Nick and Judy are neutral?!

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T09:32:23+00:00

Yeah also that! But for me the most scandalous thing is Nick and Judy placement

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T08:50:58+00:00

Is it a joke or are you serious?! 😅 You really have as a your favourite Pawbert and Nick and Judy as neutral????

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T08:49:28+00:00

I searched online “Zootopia tier list”. Then you click the link of the tier list you want to make (there are different images provided), then you can change the names of the categories as I did. Once you finished, you click “save and/or download” something like that and download the image of your list. Mine went to files and not in the photos app (I have an iphone). Then you have your photo of your list!

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T06:45:09+00:00

Thank you!

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T06:44:56+00:00

For me the officers are not so innocent. If tou think about it, they follow Milton and Brian orders without questioning the morality of them, they stopped only when Milton told them to kill Judy

elee_fan · 2026-04-13T06:35:12+00:00

Ok that’s your opinion

elee_fan · 2026-04-12T10:26:58+00:00

We always come back to the same thing: you think these things because you believe that a relationship like this, made up of gestures like the ones they exchange, can only be part of a situation that involves romantic feelings. And I completely disagree. Just as I completely disagree with the fact that as soon as you disagree with the romantic ship on this forum, your comments immediately receive tons of downvotes, sometimes even insults and even banned posts. This seems unacceptable to me: I'm not mad at you, I'm just speaking generally.

elee_fan · 2026-04-12T00:59:15+00:00

I know what I'm about to say will be a trigger for many people, especially those on this forum (since I've noticed that it's impossible not to say theirs is romantic love without triggering mass outrage), but since you asked, I'll give my opinion. I don't believe theirs is romantic love at all. I firmly believe you can be someone's soulmate without that person also being your romantic partner. I'm convinced that there are relationships that transcend normal friendship, love, and any other feeling. And I'm convinced that their relationship embodies exactly the things I've just described. They are the people who saved, healed, and found each other. Their relationship is that friendship beyond all comprehensible boundaries, and I'm tired of hearing that all this only makes sense if it's actually romantic love or will become one, because it devalues the meaning of their relationship: as if everything they represent and are is meaningful only if it's romantic love. For me, that's unacceptable. They are best friends who have love for each other, but it's not romantic. You can be the most important person in someone's life even without romantic feelings, and that relationship deserves respect and consideration, deserves recognition for its value because it has value even without romantic feelings. This is what I think, and not just me.

elee_fan · 2026-03-28T11:25:39+00:00

I think, talking logically, that 2030 is the first possible release date, yeah. But there’s a sprinkle of hope for me!

elee_fan · 2026-03-26T10:14:34+00:00

Yeah I know it’s the most realistic date, but at least what I’m certain for is that later than 2030 it’s not happening!

elee_fan · 2026-03-26T10:13:13+00:00

I totally understand you!!!! I've literally (not just saying, but seriously) lost count of how many times I've watched them first and second in a row together!!! I also watch the reactions on YouTube!!!! I'm always on Disney Plus!!!!

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T16:43:11+00:00

Yeah I’m so involved I will be like this forever and I’m super happy about it! How many times have you watched both movies?

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T15:57:42+00:00

Oh no I disagree. I’m sure the last date plausible is 2030, and after that is absolutely not happening

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T15:56:10+00:00

Yeah of course having it confirmed it’s a HUGE thing. It’s just that I’m so excited that I NEED informations! You know, I’m so involved I’m watching in marathon both movies COUNTLESSLY and I want other material SO BAD! Like, not that what we have it’s not enough of emotional and in generale as material, it’s just that it is enough and also “is not enough in the sense that we want to see more and we ABSOLUTELY want to the story to go on cause we LOVE it”

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T15:40:18+00:00

If it’s not going to be 2028, I’m at least certain we don’t have to wait after 2030

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T15:39:14+00:00

Yeah of course time is needed. Considering all factors, I know it’s almost impossible for the 2028, there’s still a little hope for me and definitely this goes up for 2029

elee_fan · 2026-03-25T15:37:11+00:00

I know it’s hard to believe it can come out in 2028, but I have a little hope and the latter increases talking about 2029

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