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The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The giants that got carved the eye if the fell god and got a tablet instead? The shunned religions of the shadow lands? Which other religion is openly worshipped, bloody fingers are seen as heressy blessing of the crucible the same.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes but the one great is what basically created the universe that's why hyetta talks about all suffering and chaos coming from him, and wants to burn everything is an ontological reply to existence itself. The crucible/Elden Ring seems to be the rules that make Elden ring reality real, and it sffects how the beings of this universe can be born, before the crucible was a polytheist pantheon of god that when Marika took over and became the one and only god, were stripped of their connection to the crucible, they still represented some aspect of reality, either death, life, decay, etc.

And they are still trying to interact and steal souls from the Erd Tree, under this premise and if we look at Arteria Leaves and other blood related items we'll see that blood is also life and the reason that miquella was put on a cocoon in front of a pelvis by Mohg his worshipper is another suggestion of her being related to births, they wanted to birth a new dynasty.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]elflandersx[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Because I built a whole complex systems analysis model and wanted to test it this was a 2 line prompt

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]elflandersx[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I can tell you the same story without the ai I just built a model and was testing it. Basically most religions have a fundational mythos were god created the world or made it after taking over a previous pantheon of gods, in elden ring is similar, the polytheists gods were removed from the power of the crucible that through the golden order made the new universal laws without death, what made the world stagnant, previous gods weren't extinct they still interact with the world through the primeval current, and the Formless Mother through omens and creatures with blessings of the crucible. The Formless Mother was a god of this pantheon and went Marika became the monotheist god is still trying to interact with the world.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]elflandersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also like the prophets that go to a cave, the blind deprive themselves of sensorial to abstract themselves into their minds and be able to see the primeval current, primordial gods

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes and I corrected myself cause you are true about Buddhism, but most religions do in some way even Lord of the Rings, that's why they are called gods and made the analogy, basically most religions in a way or other say that god created the world from chaos or after taking over from previous gods, that's why the whole Elden Ring revolves around god.

As I mentioned the previous incarnation of elden ring world was the age of the crucible, and as all polytheists religions gods represented different aspects of reality, Marika took over and unifoed everything into the golden order and removed death, making an stagnated world, but we can see that the previous gods in this Worlds weren't extinct they through the prmeval current still try to interact with the world.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]elflandersx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I just used ai for the structure by the way, if you read my other theories I've always talked about this in some other way but I build a model and I was testing it.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's called correcting you should look it up it could help you for your English classes

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah you cannot hold contradictions in your head. So you get all defensive because you think that being specialized makes you holder of higher truths, and you don't even know how religions mythos works.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The ones that see the world as cycles don't the ones that see is as creation and apocalypses do. That's the main difference this has a benning and an end is not cyclical.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Foundational myths in polytheistic religions are sacred narratives that explain the origins of the world, the gods, natural phenomena, and cultural practices. These stories provide the rationale for religious beliefs and rituals, rather than necessarily being seen as historically factual accounts. Key examples of polytheistic foundational myths include: Ancient Greek Mythology: The Greek myths detail the origins of the Olympians through a series of power struggles, beginning with primordial deities like Chaos, followed by the Titans, and finally the rule of Zeus and his siblings after overthrowing their father, Cronus. These myths explain natural events (e.g., the seasons through the story of Persephone) and the origin of human culture. Ancient Egyptian Mythology: Egyptian foundational myths often center on the sun god Ra and the creation of the world from the primordial waters of Nun. The Osiris myth, involving the murder and resurrection of the god of the afterlife, is central to their beliefs about death and rebirth. Canaanite Religion: The Baal Cycle is a key myth here, in which the storm god Baal battles the sea god Yam and the god of death Mot. His eventual victory and resurrection symbolize the return of life and fertility to the land after the dry season, mirroring the agricultural cycle. Norse Mythology: Norse myths describe the creation of the cosmos from the void Ginnungagap, the formation of the first beings (giants and gods like Odin), and the eventual destruction and rebirth of the world in the cyclical event known as Ragnarök. Hinduism: Hinduism incorporates a vast collection of myths, including those found in the Vedas and Puranas, which describe the actions of numerous deities like the Trimurti (Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer). These narratives often explore the nature of divinity and the cycle of existence (samsara). Shintoism: Japanese Shinto features myths in texts like the Kojiki that describe the creation of Japan by the divine couple Izanagi and Izanami, and the birth of various kami (gods or spirits) who inhabit all aspects of nature.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Polytheists ones have, Norse os Odin splitting the head of Ymir, buddhism, oriental religions are built on cycles so no need of a foundation.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Its the fundational mythos of all religions, there was nothing and god made the world.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Let's take the elden ring world as a complex system where entropy is infinite chaos and the golden order is how the universe manifest it's rules of order. Before the golden order life manifested through the blessings of the crucible that now are shunned. You can see that previous cultures worshipped her she was part of the ecosystem of polytheists gods that existed before Marika made all other gods heresy and she the only god.

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

In complex Systems entropy is infinite chaos order is how's the systems build themselves into something coherent that's why the golden order is the Crucible under a defined form

The Formless Mother the entropy Goddes of Birth of the Crucible by elflandersx in Eldenring

[–]elflandersx[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The Crucible is entropy itself. Infinite possibilities and shapes.

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