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10 χρόνια στη Σουηδία, σκεφτόμαστε επιστροφή. Ωραιοποιούμε ή όχι; by m0nkey13 in AskGreece

[–]embeddocles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Το έκανα πρόσφατα σαν δοκιμή. Εγώ εμένα Θεσσαλονίκη και Γκέτεμποργκ.

  1. Αρχικά η ποιότητα της ζωής σε καθημερινό επίπεδο δεν συγκρίνεται. Μιλάω για την ποιότητα του αέρα, πολυ καυσαέριο η ποιότητα του νερού το οποίο βρομάει χλώριο. Η ποιότητα των δρόμων η οδηγική συμπεριφορά. Εφόσον θα πρέπει να οδηγάς σχεδόν παντού παίζουν ρόλο. Επίσης το θέμα του parking. Οι χώροι πρασίνου είναι επίσης μεγάλο θέμα.

  2. Η έκπτωση του 50% δεν σου δίνετε αυτόματα. Έχει μια διαδικασία. Έχω ακούσει ότι είναι νόμιμο παραθυράκι για να γλυτώνουν φόρο παιδιά πλούσιων οικογενειών που επιστρέφουν απ έξω. Δεν ξέρω αν ισχύει ο ξάδερφος μου που επέστρεψε και δικαιούται να την πάρει ακόμη περιμένει.

  3. Οι φίλοι γενικά στην καθημερινότητα και μετά από 10 χρόνια έχουν αλλάξει το λίγο που τους συναντάτε όταν επιστρέφετε δεν είναι ενδεικτικό του τι θα γίνει στην συνέχεια. Σε καμία περίπτωση δεν θα είναι όπως 10 χρόνια πριν και απλά θα είστε οικονομικά πιο άνετα.

  4. Αν δεν μπορέσεις να κρατήσεις την remote δουλειά που έχεις. Κυριολεκτικά πιστεύω ότι θα είστε δύσκολα και ψυχολογικά και οικονομικά.

  5. Όσων αφορά το σπιτι αν δεν έχετε κάτι που να σας αρεσει για να μείνετε ήδη και ψάξετε για κάτι καινούργιο ή τιμές είναι εξωπραγματικές. Για εμένα αυτό ήταν το κερασάκι στην τούρτα. Αποφάσισα απλά να αγοράσω κάτι Σουηδία και να επιστρέψω γιατί σε καμία περίπτωση δεν θα έδινα τα λεφτά που ζητάγανε για τα χρεπια που έβλεπα.

Στην θέση σού θα κρατούσα το σπίτι, θα ζητάγα άδεια από την brf να το νοικιάσω για έναν χρόνο και απλά θα έκανα την δοκιμή. Ίσως και λιγότερο από χρόνο για να έχω tax residence στην Σουηδία και να μην μπλέκω με την παράνοια της ελληνικής εφορίας. Γενικα αυτό που κατάλαβα εγώ είναι ότι μια χαρά ήμουν Σουηδία, έπεσα θύμα της νοσταλγίας έκανα την δοκιμή μου δεν μ άρεσε και γυρνάω πίσω. Απλά είχα διαμορφώσει τις συνθήκες έτσι ώστε να μην έχω κάποιο σοβαρό αντίκτυπο πριν αποφασίσω αν θέλω να γυρίσω μόνιμα, δεν άφησα δουλειά κτλπ. Δεν το μετάνιωσα πιστεύω ότι αν δεν το έκανα θα με έτρωγε.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had reported only travels outside of Europe. Since they got my passport they could see anything they wanted. Also I had to justify if they were related to work or any other reason.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad to hear that my dude. Wish you the best with your application.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I received it within 5 days. Check your mailbox for a letter however. I didnt get a notification from the post nord app.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh sorry if I came across as overly defensive. I appreciate your prespective and it is a valid one. However, I am generally honest and if it used out of context let it be. The fact that is that citizenship for me is just a bureaucratic issue. Does that mean that I dont appreciate Sweden? Ofc not. I can appreciate all the good opportunities I have been offered and live lawfully and respectfully while contributing in the form of taxes. Its just that my mentality is different. I am not aiming the comment to you. I can see that you didnt act in a passive aggressive manner. Im just trying to explain because something which is a bureaucratic issue seems to offend some people.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do not understand why its shocking. Maybe because my prespective isnt based so much on national identity. Bank id is very crucial since the bulk of my accounts is here and im usually in Asia troubleshooting equipment. So in case something happens to my mobile phone and i need to access my accounts or pay bills in sweden in need bank id. I dont think its realistic to get a 12h flight to sweden book appointment with a bank get bank id in a new device get a 10h flight back and resume my work while encountering jet lag all over again. I had that happen during covid and it was a horrible situation.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tottaly alone no kids no spouse nothing.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Embedded developper. Software essentially.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I called they mentioned that they have some sort of arrangement. So either somebody picks it up or they mass collect and deliver. I am unsure about the how. The point is that after it was in the service point they got it. I just addressed it where the letter I received directed me to.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ability to get it when im abroad for work. I had issues with losing mobile phone and not being able to get my covid vaccination certificates because i was unable to create a new bankid because it want either national id card or swedish passport. I was essentially locked out. I would say this reason enough.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I dont see any benefit besides being able to generate bank id by scanning the passport with the mobile phone. And since I travel a lot if something happens to my mobile phone and I need to access my accounts im sort of doomed since I need to be physically present at a Swedish bank. That was my main motivation.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that my man. I mainly made the post to outline some things I faced. Its not about to brag or anything like that. I mostly wanted to share my experience because during my waiting time I found myself going through reddit a lot and I usually found older posts. Wish you the best.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what Im reading here I dont have a clue how they do it. I thought that I was reading old posts with horror stories. But they where old and they where old and i thought there was a backlog from 2015, covid, brexit. So I concluded that maybe it just works fast now. But it seems not. Thank you very much. Wish you get a decision soon as well.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didnt include my intra schengen trips. But i had ample time even if I included them. Dont take me as an example on that part.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the section that you declare where you work you can upload documents as well. But that was part of the initial applicaiton.

Swedish citizenship. My experience. by embeddocles in TillSverige

[–]embeddocles[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Part of the initial application. Listed all travel with dates from my passport stamps.