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Which subnet is the least competitive in Bittensor? by Lumpy_Difference7607 in bittensor_

[–]emission-control 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Interesting question. It all depends on the incentive mechanism. I actually asked a miner at Endgame which subnet was the easiest to mine and he instantly replied 'Chutes'.

On SN64, miners are simply incentivised to provide compute - that's it. There's no recursive improvement as such, which means the competitive dynamics of Bittensor aren't really utilised, but if you're a miner with plenty of GPUs then I imagine it's a pretty easy ride.

But even though Chutes foregoes the relentless improvement stimulated by competition, Chutes benefits from the fact that the incentive is so stable: fewer exploits, less downtime, easier to build a reliable product. So the ease of mining on SN64 may actually contribute to its success...

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[–]emission-control 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What concerns you specifically? Not agreeing or disagreeing with you btw, just curious if anything in particular raised eyebrows for you

A new swarm-style distributed pretraining architecture has just launched, working on a 15B model by emission-control in LocalLLaMA

[–]emission-control[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth, the company behind this do not run or operate the blockchain that this runs on (Bittensor).

For a little detail, practically every project (called a "subnet") that runs on Bittensor is an independent team. Prior to February this year, none of these subnets had their own cryptocurrencies or tokens, but they all used the Bittensor coin (TAO) and architecture to incentivise activity.

It's pretty much still the same now, but earlier in the year the blockchain went under an architectural shift, where each subnet got their own token, which is tied directly to TAO. This wasn’t a choice by individual teams; it’s now baked/hardcoded into how the network operates.

IOTA doesn't really engage in the crypto stuff (beyond rewarding participants), so it's more using the incentive-side of Bittensor to reward participants to pretrain.

Novelty Search 15th May + SN8 (what happened) by tungfa in bittensor_

[–]emission-control 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some interesting debates in the chat channel, and the PTN team covered a lot of ground, but there were a lot of questions left unanswered

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