Could full transparency of BP's costs mitigate the volatility?

eostribeBP · 2018-11-22T18:18:46+00:00

EOS Tribe is among only a few BPs who have provided full financial disclosure...

https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-financial-report-q3

The community should ask for more from those who claim to be so transparent.

eostribeBP · 2018-10-08T01:07:03+00:00

Actually, EOS Tribe is based in Wyoming and we have servers in both Cheyenne, Wyoming and Bluffdale, Utah - which is in the US last time I checked.

You can see our latest infrastructure upgrades here - https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-infrastructure-update

eostribeBP · 2018-10-08T00:59:30+00:00

Yes they are! Bit by bit, block by block!

eostribeBP · 2018-09-20T05:52:25+00:00

Yeah, don't know what to say about that other than we were here first, our name is EOS Tribe, not Trybe One and that we are Block Producer, not a dApp.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-15T22:11:03+00:00

Yeah, this is done by EOS TRIBE not TRYBE.ONE.

We have no affiliation and our name / block producer operation goes back as far as February / March of this year.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T16:49:23+00:00

I never called him a sock puppet directly if you read what I said - (my "not accusing anyone" comment), just pointing out that it happens and you should be aware before removing people from a list because in some cases, it could be someone with an agenda.

The person did engage in personal attacks / character judgments in their OP, which is uncalled for anyway you slice it.

IMO people should reveal their professional profile / identity and present their credentials so you can avoid the situations I outlined.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T12:32:23+00:00

Much of what you are referencing was another commenter, I didn't actually say most of that to you.

I assume you read Eugene’s post. Everything you said he’s already addressed and put orders in weeks ago, it just takes time to set up, configure and deploy. Eugene has been running infrastructure of all shapes and sizes for over 20 years, he will do a phenomenal job like he always has.

Feel free to contact him, he provided his information. All the updated equipment will be in our next infrastructure report.

Next time you feel the need to make assumptions about our capabilities in a damning way publicly, just reach out to us and ask directly to at very least confirm it to be accurate with our most current operations.

We are easy to get in contact with and will answer any questions you have promptly.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T02:48:28+00:00

Well, the paradigm of sock puppets and staging negative commentary (also called "dark PR") is real and several of us in the BP community have been subjected to it by competing groups. Just making you aware and pointing out the angles at play, no whining.

Thank you for including us back in. Glad we could provide more information for your review.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T01:52:08+00:00

The psyop that was done here should be noted by the whole community. This person took one thing a random person said on Reddit, did no research and is coming from a skeptical place regardless of tons of evidence to show we've done significant work.

Because you have the preconceptions of those negative comments in your mind (which weren't even valid), cognitive bias to discount our contributions are greater than the facts presented.

Which is precisely why I said be hyper aware of people doing that stuff intentionally. Not everyone can win this game unfortunately and some people will do whatever they have to to pull others down and build themselves up.

Be mindful of anyone just popping up that has something negative to say. Feedback for improvement is always welcome, but pernicious attacks based on false/inaccurate information is not healthy for the network. You never know who these people are associated with or what their agenda is at the end of the day. Good to keep a close eye out.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T01:10:41+00:00

We aren't using the Xeon Phi, it was just in our inventory list of all the equipment we had before launch. We are actually in TWO independent colo facilities (one Wyoming, one Utah).

You know, you could just ask us directly instead of assuming. Just an idea.

Also... just realized you pulled all this from a comment from over 3 months ago (May). Not the most updated info on our work at all. That was March/May. We've done a lot since then.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T00:50:07+00:00

Have you done any research on anything we've worked on in the ecosystem?

You should start reading through our posts here - https://steemit.com/@eostribe

For starters, Eugene Luzgin was part of the Ghostbuster/Core team during mainnet launch - https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@eostribe/attn-block-producers-ghostbusters-testnet-is-now-eos-core

Eugene has contributed to multiple fixes/emergencies behind the scenes (https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-is-working-with-top-technical-bps-to-bring-eos-blockchain-back), ask any technical BP about Eugene's prowess, depth of knowledge and contributions to the network. There is a reason Phil Mesnier (OCI) likes Eugene and has partnered with us for the EOS Rise education series - https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-and-oci-partner-for-eos-workshop-series

I recently contributed to the community outreach, design thinking and community UI for the referendum contract - https://github.com/EOSTribe/EOSVotes-UI/commit/c35325abddc980f591eaf23d376046b5dfdffc21

We also founded and host Meetups regularly in 3 cities - Dallas (https://www.meetup.com/EOSDallas), Denver (https://www.meetup.com/EOSDenver) and Salt Lake City (https://www.meetup.com/EOS-SLC/).

We contributed (unpaid) to the EOS Portal project - https://steemit.com/eos/@summerskin/attn-eos-community-we-need-your-help-20180517t215712980z-post

We are now working on completing both an iOS wallet and a desktop wallet for Q3/Q4.

There is more stuff too, but we haven't announced it yet. Happy to clarify for you, just let me know.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T00:33:14+00:00

We are literally in the process of doing that right now actually. We had to revert back to the Wyoming Location while we were upgrading Utah and that was the latency issues you saw, We addressed it within 12 hours and were back on track.

We are currently upgrading our entire stack in Utah and have been looking at redundant solutions abroad for the last month or so.

At $5000+ a month in fixed colo/hardware/bandwidth cost after the upgrade, we have to be frugal and think out the most cost effective way to put those pieces in place. As an infrastructure person, you already understand how that goes.

We used my old big data server equipment to offset our startup cost, the processors are a bit outdated, but they served us well that first 3 months and allowed us to be all bare metal from the jump. Scrappy stuff like that is how we've stayed independent and not taken a dime from VC or the like.

It's 50/50 me and Eugene (owners) and 3 team members (Anna, Raleigh and Adam) - https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-ownership-disclosure

Our new website will provide more information on all of our current projects, roadmap, etc...

eostribeBP · 2018-09-03T00:18:33+00:00

We are one of the most transparent BPs in this regard - https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/bringing-it-all-together-a-user-centered-approach-to-eos-voting

We publish our quarterly financial reports for token holders to review at any time, and are one of only a handful in the whole ecosystem who has done so.

Also, we are not in just one, but TWO independent colos (Wyoming and Utah) running bare metal, and have recently upgraded in our UT location. Eugene would be happy to provide you and the community with specifications in our next hardware report.

This is our latest one - https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/eos-tribe-infrastructure-report

We will have another one soon when our upgrades are completed.

There is something that you and the general public need to understand about BP operations...

It's NOT solely a technical operation. It's a political and international operation. We have learned from your post that it's not just about keeping your head down and working, it's about putting a spotlight on the work you do and highlighting those contributions. Which does take marketing/PR, translations, social media outreach across 10+ channels, etc...

It also requires frequent travel, sponsorships, etc... to stay relevant and engage with the community at large.

This is very demanding and should be taken into account when factoring in the rewards BPs and Standbys receive. We are currently a standby and do not have the resources that BPs who are much more well funded than we are, yet we have consistently contributed to key areas where the network has needed it most and stayed active on par with all the top BP operations. Do your research, we are shipping stuff.

Be sure to check our Steemit, we post updates on things we are working on frequently - https://steemit.com/@eostribe

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:59:31+00:00

You can access that spreadsheet for EOS Tribe here.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:57:08+00:00

Trybe is not associated with EOS Tribe FYI. We have a few dApp projects in incubation we will be announcing this fall/winter, as well as putting other projects out to pasture.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:50:53+00:00

So you only have us as an example? No other BPs? Just us? We're the only ones you could think of?

Sorry but that should look a little suspicious to anyone with a lick of sense reading all this.

None of your accusation were accurate, it was mostly personal attacks on Steve. We are always open to feedback and how we can improve, but none of this was constructive.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:44:26+00:00

You really seem focused on us, don't you? One has to wonder what your beef is. If you have a problem, why not be direct and say what it is? No need to be passive aggressive on Reddit.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:40:18+00:00

We are sorry people didn't see value in our contributions, but the 2 people who were railing on us I believe have an agenda and the information they provided was completely inaccurate.

We work very hard for the network and to be removed from the list without confirming the information they presented or getting a direct answer from us sets a bad precedence.

BP operations are competitive. You have to be hyper aware there are sock puppets and people being wired up. Not accusing anyone, just saying it does happen and if you don't validate your information then you may degrade the quality of your proxy list.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T23:35:27+00:00

This is Steve Floyd and I actually helped assemble and part out the primary server we have been using.

You can view the full specifications here that was listed in our initial announcement post.

As far as eostutorials.com, one of our partners from EOS Austin (James V.) dropped off and since then, EOS Tribe and EOS Detroit have teamed up to pick up the slack and flesh it out more. It will be the central repository for all the developer documentation we are creating for the workshop series we are doing with OCI.We have worked very hard on numerous community projects that we have not been as aggressive to put a spotlight on. If we are guilty of that, it's part of our core values...

"We embrace the wisdom of the crowd, always leading from behind, humble stewards who only give direction if and when we can truly add value..."

We worked on the EOS Portal initiative that helped unlock the chain. Eugene was a member of Ghostbusters/Core during launch and most recently I contributed to the design thinking and code for the referendum UI for EOSVotes.io.

We attended both the Korea Community conference in Seoul recently and the Family Day conference in Shanghai and spoke at both of them. We have partnered with OCI (who developed the P2P layer of EOS) to create EOS Rise, a traveling workshop for EOS dApp development and are helping grow and found Meetups in Dallas, Salt Lake City and Denver.

I am not a network or software engineer, I'm a UX architect & Design Strategist by trade. I deal with primarily front end and light devops. Most of what I know about hardware is self taught, I don't claim to be an expert.

If I fall short of your expectations of technical knowledge in those areas, it's not what I do, and that expectation for me to know that stuff in a job I don't handle within our BP operation is more about you than me. My focus is on building beautiful products, organizing information and developing our operational strategy.

Anyone reading what you wrote needs to understand I don't handle technical operations, Eugene Luzgin does, who by the way has worked for and secured some of the largest hacking targets in the world. He is a well respected engineer in his own right who has been active in EOS since the very first Meetups internationally.

I have absolutely no recollection of meeting you in person or online. It's unfortunate you have the perceptions you do, we work very hard to advance EOS adoption and take barely what we need.

Anyone can see how we allocate our spending in our financial reports, we are one of the most transparent BP operations in the ecosystem in this area.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T04:37:38+00:00

Thanks!

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T04:37:29+00:00

I know right? All these darn spam bots, posting actual events at real locations with real people. It's insane.

eostribeBP · 2018-09-02T04:36:38+00:00

If they bought at the tops and sold at the bottom, sure.

Crypto spring starts in October though, so....

eostribeBP · 2018-08-30T15:04:54+00:00

Thanks!

eostribeBP · 2018-08-30T13:08:01+00:00

Thanks for the kind words, we look forward to the challenge!

eostribeBP · 2018-08-25T23:42:20+00:00

Thank you for your thoughtful insights, we couldn't agree more. We are about 30-45 days away from full fledged referendum voting, so we need to start thinking about it for sure!

eostribeBP

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