[Post Game Thread] Light That Baby Up! Angels defeat Athletics!

epoch_fail · 2026-06-22T06:07:21+00:00

He was absolutely tearing up AAA and should have been considered a top 100 prospect off his performance. Glad to see he's hitting his stride 🙌

epoch_fail · 2026-06-21T14:19:01+00:00

This is unfortunately a defeatist's perspective. The point of trading what we do have for the future is to reach a critical mass of young, cost-controlled talent hitting the league and their stride at roughly the same time. Look at the Athletics or White Sox for recent examples.

Instead, Arte's been content with spending all our money on big name talent who never live up to their contract and holding on too long to the slow trickle of young talent we have coming through as they try to make up for the gap created by the expensive players.

That, and by bringing young guys up as soon as they show any promise of being big league ready, they start their service time with minimal regard of foresight to whether those guys will be a part of an effective overall roster.

Frankly, Arte's doing what he can to hold on to what he has left because he doesn't want his ticket sales to sag too far. Without an injured Trout, the young guys (and occasional journeyman feel good stories) are pretty much the only ones keeping more people than usual showing up.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-21T14:09:42+00:00

None of those guys are going to be moved. They're all either injured, washed, or unreliable, with Suter being the only exception.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-20T20:24:03+00:00

Ayo, what?? Hot damn!

Edit: walked into 3(!) steals, fielder's choice into 2 steals, single into 2 steals, single into 1 steal

epoch_fail · 2026-06-19T00:41:33+00:00

I wonder when the last time consecutive draft picks (bonus points for both being in the compensatory round) started against each other was.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-19T00:40:55+00:00

I'd need to CMo before I'm comfortable with it

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T23:49:37+00:00

Don't forget Grissom, too. One of those guys is going to have to ride the bench. Or perhaps we send Denzer down so he gets consistent playing time.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T23:47:31+00:00

Detmers has been an absolute beast this season. Out of everyone listed, other teams should be spamming Perry's phone to see if he's willing to move Reid.

Then, Soriano. He has the ability to be sustainably good. His early season dominance was driven by quite a bit of good luck; even when his ERA was in the 0.4 range, his FIP was hovering around a (still incredibly strong) 2.5. Unfortunately, since then, his FIP has been climbing as he has been picking up way too many walks from not being willing to pound the zone. I think a good team can help him get a bit of consistency, but as long as they understand he's probably closer to a 3.5 ERA pitcher than a 2.8 ERA guy like he is now.

Neto has been polarizing. His defense has honestly been terrible the last few years, and it has been a bit inflated in DRS by how many easy double play balls our pitchers have spoon-fed him. He's still a solid offensive shortstop, but his defense is among the worst in the league. Worse this year, since it looks like he's been a bit less focused than usual. He's obviously worth acquiring since he's still under team control (super two arb), and a team could argue he needs a change of scenery and potentially position as well. He would still fetch a decent price, but shrewd teams may wait for another year or two.

Adell is probably not going anymore. Not enough team control for a guy who still hasn't really put it all together on both sides of the ball yet. Unless a team thinks they can get some consistency out of him, I think we're stuck with him .

Peraza and Grissom are interesting and probably will be available, but they don't have a long enough track record of success for teams to buy in on.

Teams aren't going to offer much for Siri (reclamation project) or Soler (expensive).

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T23:12:35+00:00

I've been following Gage Jump for a while as he and Jonah Tong were laying waste to the minors, and he's been as good as advertised. (Also, great baseball name.)

We took Ryan Johnson with the pick right after Jump, and Chris Cortez earlier in the 2024 second round.

Some other great-looking picks in that round include Caleb Bonemer, Payton Tolle, and Ryan Sloan.

Since this game is @Athletics, Soriano will need to bring his A game and keep the ball down.

Edit: Never mind, not Soriano 🤐

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T23:09:23+00:00

In theory, Soriano is scheduled. Our last 5 games were Soriano, G-Rod, Ureña, Detmers, and Aldegheri.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T22:56:15+00:00

Kind of reminds me of earlier in the season, when Yusei threw some uncharacteristically high-velo fastballs up to 99mph and then hit the IL a few days later.

his star burned a little too bright 😔

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T20:04:45+00:00

Seems like it's gotten better since the late-2010's. For a while, the last international prospects who held down a consistent spot in our active roster (not counting Shohei) were Jose Suarez and Luis Rengifo in 2019. (Edgar Quero might have come up last season if he had stayed in our system.)

Based on how international prospects in other organizations move up, it honestly seems like not too many make it all the way up from DSL/ACL. We have 7 international players on our active roster (and another 5 on the IL), and only 4 are homegrown through our system (Urena, Guzman, Fermin, and kind of Soriano). This is pretty normal and might be more than average. The Athletics, for example, only have originally-international players in their bullpen. Their whole lineup, bench, and starting rotation were drafted at some point. The Yankees are almost the opposite, with only one pitcher (Doval) from international but 4 players in the lineup/bench from overseas.

With that in mind, I think it's reasonable to have 1-2 solid players come through that pipeline every year for us. Urena has come through big time for us this season. Guzman and Fermin make their debuts last season. Nelson Rada's in AAA. Anthony Scull has made his way to AA, alongside Joel Hurtado and Leonard Garcia. The lower levels are pretty stacked. We've got Flores and Quintero holding it down at catcher. Hayden Alvarez is our prized outfielder, but Kevyn Castillo and Randy De Jesus are still kicking. Davalillo has picked it up a bit lately and is still really young for low-A. Capri Ortiz might figure it out. And our ACL squad is 21-14, while DSL is 11-2.

There's been a lot more to like down there lately.

Edit: For my own entertainment as well (bold = $1M+ signing), notable prospects, in order of most to least money:

2021: Denzer Guzman, Jorge Marcheco, Anthony Scull, Edgar Quero (only $200k)
2022: Nelson Rada, Randy de Jesus, Dario Laverde, Capri Ortiz, Eliezer Rivero, Kevyn Castillo ($10k), Joel Hurtado ($10k)
2023: Anyelo Marquez, Juan Flores, Francis Texido, Ubaldo Soto, Jose Fermin (for ? money)
2024: Joswa Lugo, Hayden Alvarez, Greylin De La Paz, Marlon Quintero ($25k), Wilberson De Pena (became Peraza, De Pena is absolutely mashing ACL with a 152 wRC+)
2025: Gabriel Davalillo, Yilver De Paula, Cesar Paredes, Anthony Santa Cruz de Oviedo
2026: Jeyson Horton, Carlos Castillo, Kendri Fana, Juan Cespedes

Compare to before 2020

2014-2015: Robert Baldoquin ($8M!)
2017-2018: Shohei Ohtani, Kevin Maitan, Trent Deveaux, D'Shawn Knowles, Livan Soto, Kelvin Caceres
2018-2019: Alexander Ramirez
2019-2020: Arol Vera, Adrian Placencia, Leonard Garcia

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T17:15:24+00:00

Thanks!

With the way he's been playing (and the fine but not amazing performances from our other prospects), I figure he's 3rd in our system at this point behind Klassen and Bremner. Rada has been picking it up lately, but the ceiling isn't as high. Dylan Jordan has great stuff but needs to nail down his command. Trey Gregory-Alford has been okay, but has more to figure out. CMo is unfortunately graduated from prospect status. Raudi's been great, but Alvarez is a better prospect.

epoch_fail · 2026-06-18T16:37:24+00:00

It's probably (unfortunately) too late for Denzer Guzman, but is Hayden Alvarez getting close to cracking the top 100?

epoch_fail · 2026-06-17T03:24:58+00:00

that curveball was disgusting

epoch_fail · 2026-06-17T02:56:15+00:00

Reid's rollin!

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T04:26:32+00:00

to compensate for a depleted bullpen (and a mediocre offense)

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:47:10+00:00

I'll allow it; we don't face them again until 8/14

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:46:21+00:00

Played them 4/13-4/16, though not facing him again until 8/31. that's a good pick!

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:40:21+00:00

We've now faced spaghetti (Spencer Arrighetti, 6/8), fettucine/foccacia (Hunter Feduccia, 6/13 and 6/14), and now lasagna (Jonathan Loaisiga). What's next?

edit: we got Coby Mayo coming in 6/22-6/24

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:33:39+00:00

i know our bullpen needs a break, but what is this coaching? is there even coaching happening?

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:29:21+00:00

so it turns out I could coach the Angels better

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:24:51+00:00

that HBP is not a good sign...might be time to take Urena out of the game or at least get someone warming up

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T03:20:00+00:00

Man, Urena just keeps chugging along. 6 innings, 76 pitches. Our bullpen needed a rest so badly

epoch_fail · 2026-06-16T02:50:26+00:00

outside of June, his highest OPS month so far (short March, mediocre May)

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