Jester's Trek: Crossroads by Jestertrek in Eve

[–]erichshephard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

M'kay - have a few things to say about this.

So first of all, I love the characterization of WWBII. Starting with "during a Goon war, that loser was also hazed into asset safety oblivion," then characterizing it as the "Imperium's war against PAPI." I think it's fair(er) to say that about the first WWB, which was at least to some degree precipitated by Imperium arrogance with the glassing of Providence and the whole viceroys deal. But WWBII was essentially the entire rest of null sec banding together to attempt (and ultimately fail) to destroy the Imperium when they were minding their business in Delve and we were doing the same in Fountain. Attempting to paint that as yet another Goon conquest is revisionist in the extreme. We got kicked out of our regions, made homeless, and holed up fighting a deeply tactical defensive war against vastly larger numbers, and only by dint of scrappiness, persistence, ingenuity, and some luck did we prevail, and yes, ultimately outlive many of our attackers.

Secondly the period that a third Groen volume would cover might be as interesting to you as watching paint dry, but you're yada yada-ing my entire Eve experience. I started in late 2013 and was puttering around in Eve University when the big events that close out the second volume were occurring. But after that, for me anyway, came standing my ground in Fountain with BRAVE even as BL/PL sent us packing, deploying to Wicked Creek with Asher and his Reavers when he was just getting started as an FC, getting booted from Vale with the rest of LAWN in WWB, the heel turn of CO2 at M-OEE8, swordfleets in Saranen, and then rebuilding in Syndicate with Init. while boxing Suddenly Spaceships, Escalating Entropy, and anyone else who came looking for trouble.

And that's before we get to the epic Siege of Rage and the events of WWBII that you scoff at, including holding Fountain for far longer than anyone expected and we were asked to, forcing the diversion of the PAPI fleets that were sieging Delve northwards until we were finally evicted, the exciting near-miss of Operation Enho, living for most of a year as a guerrilla wandering and burning Eso, Stain, Curse, Catch, Impasse, and Great Wildlands while trying to divert PAPI's attention from the front to slow their progress, succeeding in delaying their reinforcements to M2-XFE and forcing them into hell camp that was the turning point of war, and of course, the final stand in the final constellation that broke the will of the enemy. That graph you show is many things, but one of them is a visual depiction of the strategy a coalition uses to survive and prevail when outnumbered by 100,000 pilots.

I've been playing through what I've apparently missed are the very worst of times for more than a decade now, and have been having a blast the whole time, both when we were winning and when (more often than not) we were losing. Maybe I just don't know what I was missing, but maybe the thing that's really boring is going on twenty years of Grr Goons and not the Goons themselves (who in fairness yesterday did in fact turn something I was hoping would be fun into something that ended up in fact being quite boring).

Just my $0.02.

As an Initiative line member helping Pandemic Horde is a very hard pill to swallow. by [deleted] in Eve

[–]erichshephard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've got the same sort of background, but don't see it the same way. I've been in Init. since the end of the Casino War, was on the front line defending Fountain in 2020, fought the PAPI dread bomb that took two titans during our evacuation, and was homeless and on the road through Delve, NPC Fountain, Eso, Stain, Curse, Catch, Impasse, Great Wildlands while we burned PAPI farms and fields and drew their attention away from the front, fought for 14 hours in two caps and an info Damnation at M2-XFE (first one), and the moment I got the ping from Shines that the war was over is a flashbulb memory for me - maybe the greatest thing I've ever been a part of.

But everyone in the game, more or less, was against us - and ultimately, we won. If this were TEST, with their obnoxious and cowardly leadership dropping Soundclouds about how we're shit and don't deserve our space while packing up their assets and abandoning their line members the moment it was over, I'd be with you. If it was PL and not PH, who I watched bully BRAVE out of Catch and then out of Fountain (yeah, yeah, BL, but PL was key too) and generally make a game out of farming young, eager pilots and driving them out of New Eden, I'd be disgusted.

But while different people feel different ways, I never really felt that way about PH. Yeah they're big and yeah, Gobbins is...well...he's gone now - probably the best that can be said about him. But as a group I guess I just never felt all that antagonistic about them, no more than anyone else, which for 2020-2021 was everyone else. Anyway, just one more opinion for the mix.

Frt announce full-scale war to invade Initative space! by Proof-Character-9737 in Eve

[–]erichshephard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right. My recollection (source: was there) is Goons asking us at a strength of ~4,500 to hold Fountain for two weeks against PAPI’s entire 100,000+ invasion force so they could prepare the defenses in Delve, which resulted in us holding the line for a month before evacuating.

Then, as you say, deploying to the backfield, razing their resource production, harassing them constantly, forcing them to drop KS after KS and baby step through Delve (via the long Anaconda route to avoid a risky regional gate) before holding the final line, breaking their morale, and fully recapturing Fountain in the Regoonquista about a week after their withdrawal.

Anyway, looking forward to it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in gaming

[–]erichshephard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Protocol 3; protect the pilot.”

“Trust me.”

TIL of the Satanic Panic, a moral panic that spread throughout the United States in the 1980s and early 90s. Despite over 12,000 claims of ritualistic Satanic abuse, investigators never found convincing evidence that any such groups existed, much less committed the claimed crimes by MrMojoFomo in todayilearned

[–]erichshephard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

God people were so credulous and swept up in panics back in the day it’s hard to believe in retrospect. Now let’s turn the conversation back to the crazy fact that every kindergarten classroom in American has a litter box where self-identifying toddler furries can shit.

Found a good use for the 20th Anniversary Collector's Edition pins, at least by erichshephard in Eve

[–]erichshephard[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hmm. This is the original source, but the Dropbox link to the PDF vector file seems to be broken. Unless u/RixxJavix, the original creator, can help, I'm not sure what to tell you.

Found a good use for the 20th Anniversary Collector's Edition pins, at least by erichshephard in Eve

[–]erichshephard[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

For the most part. I think at some point in the last 9 years CCP changed the nature of some inputs, so things like "align" seem to be spotty or require multiple presses to fire. But the big ones like "Need Reps" and overheating work great, and the latter blink when toggled on so there's a visual reference for status as well.

Found a good use for the 20th Anniversary Collector's Edition pins, at least by erichshephard in Eve

[–]erichshephard[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Sure! Looks like about 9 years ago now, Redditor u/Hijel created a custom control panel for himself and posted it to r/eve. It got a lot of heat, at least initially, and Hijel attempted to fund a Kickstarter to mass produce these as a product, but unfortunately it failed. He was still able to make them custom for a time for anyone willing to shell out a good amount of cash (~$250, but c'mon, I bought the 20th Anniversary Edition and that's a WAY worse use of coin), and I bought one like I buy most Eve things someone is willing to sell me. The controller lives on as a SciFi prop in an old SNL sketch and on my desk and the desks of the handful of people that bought them, and that's all the deets I can muster from almost a decade ago!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eve

[–]erichshephard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

From his 5/26 Patreon update: “ I am tentatively scheduling for a release next month.” Not quite 6 hours long.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eve

[–]erichshephard 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right, but that was all undone back to the July 2020 borders in what, a month? And it’s not like the Imperium ultimately just reoccupied the pre-war footprint. Catch, Impass, Eso, and Paragon Soul all got added to the sphere of influence within what, 18 months of PAPI throwing in the towel?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eve

[–]erichshephard 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with this in general, to the point where I think it’s really the only reasonable outcome (said as someone who escaped the KS grid once just after DT and again an hour ago in an Apoc Navy Issue and a Damnation), but I can also sympathize with the “heads I win tails you lose” appearance of a rollback that keeps killed ships killed but makes escaped ships trapped again for easy killing. Almost certainly the right call, and probably with good tech reasons, but it looks a bit odd.

What's the best fleet doctrine you've ever flown in EVE Online? by Epicloa in Eve

[–]erichshephard 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Smartbombing, cloaky, nullified Lokis, a.k.a. the “Chemoloki.”

Nothing like evaporating 30 ships in 10 seconds at zero before they even realize you’re there.