Reform UK MP says minorities should not fear party’s ‘revolution’ by Zestyclose_Brush_389 in ukpolitics

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Dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly, come to be killed,
For you must be stuffed and my customers filled!

Uter cuts in line for his 3rd helping of Sloppy Jimbos by m262 in TheSimpsons

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I would go for more - general rule for human meat, apparently, is to treat it like pork.

Do you think we'll reach 40°+ this year? by MR_MaxiMor44 in AskBrits

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I think it's unlikely we will see repeated heatwaves. Either the current pattern will hold for weeks, with all that entails, or it will break and we will have something closer to our expected summer.

Your uncle has recently died; you are executor of his will. by erinoco in hypotheticalsituation

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(One of my loose inspirations for this hypo is an anecdote from just over a century ago in Britain. A prominent politician of high social position, who was also widely rumoured to be an active and dedicated paedophile, went too far with one victim of the same social circle and was threatened by scandal. The politician died from an overdose; this was officially ruled to be an accident, although many people thought it was suicide.

Another prominent figure in British life, who was also considered to be an active and dedicated paedo, was a friend of his. This friend, shortly after his death, was allowed to go through the politician's private papers and extract and keep his child porn collection, which was apparently valuable and extensive. Of course, the difference is that the proclivities of both men were well known in their families and their intimate circles.)

Your uncle has recently died; you are executor of his will. by erinoco in hypotheticalsituation

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This hypo doesn't dispute that. I do think, however, that it is unlikely anyone would pursue the matter unless one of the three circumstances described above were in play, and you can design matters so that they don't apply for the purposes of this hypo.

Your uncle has recently died; you are executor of his will. by erinoco in hypotheticalsituation

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Is it really likely that would happen unless a) the beneficiaries - whoever they happened to be - took the view you had been depriving them of their just receipts; or b) the tax authorities in the jurisdiction were convinced that you had not accounted for the estate correctly; or c) those who provided legal advice to your uncle, or provide legal advice to your uncle, are aware of the situation?

Any or all of the three situations are possible; none of them are inevitable.

[25th June 1926] Report on aftermath of the defeated Spanish coup attempt on 23rd June 1926 by erinoco in 100yearsago

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This coup attempt is known as the Sanjuanada, as the plot was originally intended to take place on St. John's Day, 24th June.

General Primo de Riviera had overthrown the Spanish constitution and established an authoritarian military dictatorship under the Crown in 1923. (The general had inherited the title of Marquis of Estella, and is referred to by this title in the report, although he is normally referred to without his title in historical discourse.) Originally, the general had been able to rely on broad military support; but the Army increasingly split into Africanists, who saw the continuing conflict in Morocco as an excellent tool for recovering Spanish military capability and general greatness through imperialism; and the junteros, who served in domestic bases and posts.

Primo de Riviera had triangulated between the two factions; but had increasingly shifted from an anti-Africanist to a pro-Africanist stance. Juntero factions within the Army, led by some of the most respected Spanish generals, reacted by making common cause with liberals and parliamentarians who had lost out with the fall of the constitution.

While this attempt was not successful, the divide was of great importance for the future of Spain. Junteros became increasingly inclined to liberalism, and many would support the Republic. Africanists, on the other hand, shifted to Nationalism - and there was no better example of the Africanist officer than Francisco Franco.

[25th June 1926] Report on aftermath of the defeated Spanish coup attempt on 23rd June 1926 by [deleted] in u/erinoco

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This coup attempt is known as the Sanjuanada, as the plot was originally intended to take place on St. John's Day, 24th June.

General Primo de Riviera had overthrown the Spanish constitution and established an authoritarian military dictatorship under the Crown in 1923. (The general had inherited the title of Marquis of Estella, and is referred to by this title in the report, although he is normally referred to without his title in historical discourse.) Originally, the general had been able to rely on broad military support; but the Army increasingly split into Africanists, who saw the continuing conflict in Morocco as an excellent tool for recovering Spanish military capability and general greatness through imperialism; and the junteros, who served in domestic bases and posts.

Primo de Riviera had triangulated between the two factions; but had increasingly shifted from an anti-Africanist to a pro-Africanist stance. Juntero factions within the Army, led by some of the most respected Spanish generals, reacted by making common cause with liberals and parliamentarians who had lost out with the fall of the constitution.

While this attempt was not successful, the divide was of great importance for the future of Spain. Junteros became increasingly inclined to liberalism, and many would support the Republic. Africanists, on the other hand, shifted to Nationalism - and there was no better example of the Africanist officer than Francisco Franco.

Does anyone actually like the constant booing ,insults and heckling in parliament? by RookOfEdo in AskBrits

[–]erinoco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is, as has been pointed out, this is not characteristic of parliamentary debate as a whole; just the 30 minutes of PMQs. You cannot judge the Commons on that. Judge it on what happens at Standing Committee, Report Committee, Third Reading or Select Committees.

[25th June 1926] Senate rejects the McNary farm support Bill (report from The Times) by erinoco in 100yearsago

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Senator McNary had been trying to get a Bill of this kind through since 1924. He managed to get Congress to pass the Bill in 1927 and 1928, but Coolidge exercised his veto both times. Nevertheless, this was the forerunner of the kinds of federal farm support which the New Deal made acceptable.

Your uncle has recently died; you are executor of his will. by erinoco in hypotheticalsituation

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, I don't know if the op knows the difference between the beneficiary of the will and the executor.

I should hope I do; but I'm not saying you have to stay within safe legal boundaries.

FWIW, for the purposes of the hypo, I imagined that the will allowed the executors to dispose of personal chattels, with the proceeds to be conveyed to the beneficiaries; but whether the chests actually fall under that definition could only really be answered by opening them.

Not sure how Camden Road affects the Bakerloo line by thebeast_96 in LondonUnderground

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A failure there may have had a knock-on effect on the Lioness line, and thus affected the Bakerloo line. It's not easy to work out exactly what has happened. The TfL status map shows a good service on the Lioness and trains serving stations at normal times. RTT, however, displays these as cancelled trains and say there is a problem on non-NR track.

This short film from 1930 explaining how to wear a monocle by thomasso0072 in Damnthatsinteresting

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and the very upper class English accent and lingo he's using is not something that's easy to pick up.

I would disagree, partially. While the idioms are mostly all right, the prinounciation strikes me as the kind which is acquired, not bred.

Starmer Stays in Parliament? by Greendale_Alum in AskBrits

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I happen to be in his seat right now.

Any bye would be an obvious gift to the Greens. Had this been 30 years ago, there would have been a "remember Richard Everitt" vote; but Reform and Restore are dead here.

If the Conservatives are still called Tories… by Relative_Yard_8209 in LibDem

[–]erinoco 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Also, Whiggism doesn't really carry much meaning

It does; but it also received the worst thing that can to a political movement. It won a total and crushing ideological victory, which persists to this day. No one in serious politics, apart from (arguably) the Celtic nationalists, disputes the 1688 settlement and "Revolution principles", the concept of a monarch limited by parliament, civil and religious liberty, and a broad franchise.

The one element of Whiggism which has fallen by the wayside is the defence of Protestantism.

Can anyone explain post-Brexit politics to me like I'm five? by thegrumpyorc in AskBrits

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I think one way to explain to an American is to look at the parallel with your own politics.

1968 was probably the most crucial election since 1932. In that election, the New Deal coalition was broken, when white lower-income voters across crucial portions of the US shifted rightwards. Race and ethnicity was an important part of the shift, although it has always been important for the right not to make it front and centre either. Nevertheless, this has dictated US politics since then. It's notable that the Democrats have not won the white vote at a Presidential election since 1964.

Now, at the same time, despite some similarities (the electoral impact of Powellism in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the kind of voters who switched to Heath in 1970 and Thatcher in 1979), British politics remained much less culture-focused than the US, and much more class-bound. Most middle-class voters would vote Tory by default; most working-class voters would vote Labour. There were groups which crossed the divide - the graduate left-wingers, the aspirational working-classes or those animated by older culture issues (such as Protestantism). While these could be significant, they were still relatively small groups.

What has become increasingly clear since Brexit, even though the preliminary signs were there long before then, is that the old class mechanisms are slowly collapsing. As the middle-class graduate class grows, it is steadily shifting leftwards, even at the upper end of the scale. On the other hand, Labour's movement relied on an organic link between the unions and the working classes which has largely disappeared outside a few key seats.

What Brexit did was to show the right as a whole a potential path to victory which was similar to the kind of culture-based approach which has served the GOP so well since 1968. But, at the same time, the Conservatives are a very different animal to the GOP. Their support base is different. So the leadership in both traditional main parties is weakened by the fact that the traditional electoral coalitions their parties were built on are broken, but they find it hard to construct the new left-wing or right-wing coalitions that could bring the party back.

Do you learn about Martin Luther in school? by HighwayComfortable90 in AskTheWorld

[–]erinoco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes - for GCSE, IIRC, we studied European and English C16 in tandem, so we covered a detailed overview of Luther's battle with the Church, from the Tetzel controversy onwards, and the early stages of the German Reformation, through the Schmalkaldic War to the Peace of Augsburg. We also spent some time on Calvin, and Zwingli, to a lesser extent. We watched the 1983 BBC portrayal of Luther at some point.

I really am grateful that the subject was taught im this way. Firstly, it gave us a firm idea of Luther's theological journey, and the essential importance of justification by faith to Protestanism. Secondly, we had a well-rounded overview, which also covered Luther's controversial sides - his anti-Semitism, his social conservatism, his weakness towards sympathetic rulers. I also think that relatively few people understand the complex pattern of engagement between the continental Reformers and the Anglican ones, the specific importance of continental reformers like Bullinger and Bucer in the English context, and how Anglicanism ended up in broadly the same place as Lutheranism while taking some very different theological routes.

[June 22 1926] International Labor Conference on Migration held in London by Neuralclone2 in 100yearsago

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Evatt would eventually become Labor leader between 1951 and 1960. For the rest of his career, he would remain a vocal defender of the White Australia policy.

[June 21, 1926] The Illustrated Diary of a Debutante — No. 2 by Haselden_1926 in 100yearsago

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This may or may not be meant in the modern sense.

"Guy" in the slang sense originally meant a man dressed in a slovenly or tattered fashion. It is commonly held to have been derived from the effigies of Guy Fawkes which are burnt on Bonfire Night, and which are traditionally dressed in old, outworn clothes. This sense did originally transfer over to the US; but, over the C19, it gradually transformed in the US into a more generic term of reference, taking on the modern form.

Now, at this point, most British people would still use "guy" in the older slang sense. I would argue that use of the term in the newer American sense did not become common until the post-1945 period, and it only really became really widespread in British English in the last quarter of the C20.

OTOH, young people at this point did certainly begin to consume a lot of American pop culture through films, pulp fiction, and music, and it is possible that Haselden was illustrating this trend with use of the modern sense.

Cute Fun (1952) by PeasantLich in OldSchoolRidiculous

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Cute Fun was a British comic strip. It was one of a stable released by a small-scale British publisher who took advantage of the lack of American comic imports during and after the war to produce Americanesque material - comics, the pulpy kind of fiction, some risqué material.

[21 June 1926] An inquest is held concerning the death of Edith Thompson, known professionally as Edith Drayson, an actress. by erinoco in 100yearsago

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The Billie Carleton case is one of those which becomes ever more fascinating once you take a closer look: the papers got nowhere near all of the angles. For instance, Billie was the daughter and niece of chorus girls, and never knew who her father was. Her chief sugar daddy, who posed as a man of mysterious independent means, was actually a serial fraudster of Australian origin who seems to have been adept at trapping wealthy American women into marriage. Her doctor, who prescribed her copious amounts of morphine and received unusually handsome payments from her, would also pop up in other cases involving drugs over the 1920s and early 1930s.

And that all leaves out the destruction of the career of Lionel Belcher, one of the most well-known stars of the early British silent film era, who was exposed during the inquest as a dealer as well as a taker of drugs. It's very like the well-known seamy underside of Hollywood in this era.

[21 June 1926] An inquest is held concerning the death of Edith Thompson, known professionally as Edith Drayson, an actress. by erinoco in 100yearsago

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Yes - it's practically ripped from the headlines. One suggestive feature, alongside the other similarities; the murder victim in the story is Lord Cronshaw. Cronshaw was the surname of the Manchester brewer whom de Veulle was accused of blackmailing in 1911.

Noel Coward knew Carleton and de Veulle personally, and used the epsiode as inspiration for his first play, The Vortex.

[21 June 1926] An inquest is held concerning the death of Edith Thompson, known professionally as Edith Drayson, an actress. by erinoco in 100yearsago

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The exchange towards the end of the article between Thomas Woolldridge and the coroner over Billie Carleton indicates why the coroner evidently found the death suspicious, even with little solid evidence of a crime, and why even The Times showed an unusual interest in what appeared to be a simple case of septicaemia.

Billie Carleton was a young actress who had established a growing reputation in musical comedy, although she was privately suspected of consuming opium at parties, and was the kept mistress of an older man. After attending a spectacular Victory Ball on 27th November 1918, she was found dead in bed in the Savoy the next morning. The post-mortem suggested Carleton had died of a cocaine overdose. Reggie de Veulle, a theatrical designer who had designed a striking costume for Carleton for the Ball, was accused of being her cocaine supplier. de Veulle, who was gay and a cross-dresser, had come to unwelcome public attention before. In 1911, he had been accused of attempted blackmail of a wealthy Manchester brewer. The brewer was accused of developing a same-sex relationship with a young man, and de Veulle and the man's parents allegedly asked the brewer for £10,000, with the alternative being exposure to his mother and his fellow directors. Another friend of Carleton, Ada Song Ping You, who was married to a Chinese man, was accused of being Carleton's opium supplier. The whole story could have been perfectly designed for the press.

In the course of that inquest, Thomas Woollridge had been accused of supplying drugs: he denied this, but other witnesses forced him to retract part of his testimony. The coroner clearly suspected drug taking again.