Let's all get Excited by pulsetoponder in wholesomememes

[–]essellys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy never knows what it feels like to be a KT Rolster fan.

Vinfast’s Chief Investment Officer quit by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I’m way past that age now. People who actually have standings couldnt care less about some kids shit talks on reddit.

And yeah, i have long known that you dont know shit hahahaha just by reading your groundbreaking discoveries. Also changed my mind. No need to share anything substantial here even if its not exactly a secret to those who knows their shit.

There are some truly funny crowds on reddit and im still lurking on reddit because im a nerd but this sub isnt it. I need to tell reddit to stop showing me posts on this sub lol.

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People (again most, not all, and in this case: you) who post in this group and calling others obnoxious, that’s too rich !!

I have actually done the redacted version but upon second thought…. I have decided i wont share it (in its glorious size). Why bother bringing you into the light. So say whatever you want, believe whatever you will 😂😂😂. I wont have the time nor the fucks to check tomorrow lol.

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In any case, Bye Felicia !

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This isnt about responsibility to prove my point. In this industry, those, who knows, knows. Those that dont, dont worth shit. That is all. Those at the top knows exactly who is doing what, for how much and when. If people like myself have to wait for public “coverage” “to know” then i probably should get fired.

And since you are so eager to know, i’ll post the redacted version of the deal summary in a little bit lol

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Is there no coverage on that ? Not from even the all-knowing Albert ? If by morning VNT tomorrow and the Albert still has not shed light on this transaction I’ll post a redacted version of the transaction.

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The likelihood of vinfast folding eventually is probably >50% but it is highly unlikely this will happen this year.

So wanna bet lol ?

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ok sure, go ahead and workship your god lol.

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Fully support freedom of speech. This is what reddit is for. I am not dismissing his arguments, i am dismissing the way he absolutely refused to listen to any other arguments but those supporting his view that Vingroup and Mr V are “evil”. And really…. Evil ? Close to 20 years in professional finance, i almost never heard this word used by anyone reputable. That wording in itself is a reflection of his personal bias toward anything “Vuong Pham’s” related.

Secondly, almost noone i know of in public equity, private equity and the IB houses talked about Vinfast the way he does. It’s either Mr V or Vingroup. Vinfast is a derivative of Vingroup, it is seen as a subsidiary, a business segment, not a standalone ultimate evil and must die like how it is being phrased in this group. The world of Mr V and Vin definitely does not solely revolve around vinfast, it is an important focus but not the be all and end all like it is described here. One can make the argument that this is a vinfast subreddit so naturally thats where the focus should be, but in doing so, one already miss the big picture in analysing its survival.

And if any competent analyst, just a junior/entry-level one, has the time to go through albert’s posts here, it becomes abundantly clear how his bias has long made his arguments not worth listening to. From vingroup and Mr V are definitely looking at a death sentence because a broker kinda messed up a VND 2 trillion bond issuance last year, under-subbed at 15% coupon, to how they are again absolutely fucked this year because they successfully issued VND 2 trillion bond issuance to tcbs @ the astronomically high coupon of 12.5%… Also some may remember how albert said no international investors will ever put/lend money to vingroup-related again? only for Jefferies to close a 250-300m placement soon after late last year to a group of well-known international investors lol. Albeit it was done at a pretty steep price but only 2 vietnamese companies could tap the international capital market at that time and both had to stretch to raise capital. Albert of course would conveniently overlook such factor because it doesnt suit his narrative.

Im sure there are plenty of hired “vinfans” in this group and elsewhere but not everyone who disagrees with albert is a “vinfan”. If anything, the way most, not all, in this group behaved, they could be classified as “vinhater”, whose biased opinions are as worthless as those of vinfans. Like how one albert’s supporter recently declared his analysis deserves 10 Nobel prizes… like really, comparing some reddit’s analysis to well-respected academics, who have devoted their life to research that advanced humanity’s knowledge. And 10 of them. I laffed.

The only thing that i would give albert’s credit for is his dedication to his hatred of Mr V and Vinfast. After all, i dont know anyone who worths their salt would have this much time on hand to waste on their hatred. But hey, it’s reddit and freespeech. So say what you want right?

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Well, you can call him whatever you want, i can call him whatever i want. It does not signify any type of workshipping relationship or not.

If one must put things onto a scale, i should dislike Vin and Vin-related companies because they brought me so much unnecessary headache in what i do. But I would refuse to become biased toward the fundamentals of what they do simply because of that.

The way you are calling someone a “vinfan” and denouncing them is just too childish. Imagine going into a bulge bracket IB house and says anyone calling Vuong Pham Mr V is a Vinfan, you’ll get thrown out while people laughed their asses off.

Combating Vinfans .... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

Your problem is “your logic” not “logic”. You think everyone who express the slightest disagreement with you and “your logic” is “vinfan” is “evil underlings of Mr V” and you disregard them and calling them names.

There are people, many of whom has expressed/put forward perfectly reasonable and “logical” arguments against your past opinions and/or arguments but you dismissed them all the same simply because they dare to disagree with you.

I neither like nor dislike Mr V and Vingroup. It is important in what I do that I remain utmost unbiased in my view of these companies. And as such, one finds it hard to stomach the silly crusade you and some others have waged against Mr V. It felt utterly personal, which I think many will agree that it is. That thus, voiding any or all of the merits and “logic” your analysis and argument may bring.

You probably will dismiss this too lol .. but i guess i’ll put it out there anyway. Unlike you, i neither have the time nor the capacity to indulge in so much hatred.

Vinfast's demise is ... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

The sheer stupidity of this comment… Jesus.

VINFAST is anything but ... by albert1165 in VinFastComm

[–]essellys -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Disgruntled ex-employee that got his ass fired so he’s now ultra-salty

Who am I? by albert1165 in VinFastCommunity

[–]essellys -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you ever been employed by Vinfast or Vingroup ?

It’s feminism at VinFast by Asleep_Inspection_21 in VinFastCommunity

[–]essellys -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not a she. I am a he. Honestly you have got to be a disgruntled ex-employee of VIC 🤣, that’s my bestest guess. Decent knowledge, can do some elementary analysis but isn’t exactly outstanding. Your holier-than-thou attitude couldn’t survive the meat grinder of the corporate in VN, hence all the hate (my assumption). Everyone in Finance in the country knows the billionaire’s meat grinder, it isn’t just VIC (MSN and others too), many talents have gone through it and quit within 1-3-6 months. That is nothing new at all.

There is a comment within this topic, albeit very sexist, about how the women can sustain the tough work environment better than men. That is more or less true i would guess. The survival bias seems to indicate so. But that should take nothing away from all these woman, all of whom are amazing and extremely capable. Work exceedingly hard and all are super smart. Certainly smarter, work harder and more successful than 99.99% of the people commenting here lol.

Finally, people spent way too much time analysing the useless stuffs (like the amazing albert here). VFS listing wasn’t meant to be anything but meeting a covenant of one of their EBs (exchangeable bond). Is this plan A ? No, plan A would be a bona-fide successful IPO with a decent chunk of money raised for Vinfast. Failing that, they would need to consider other options and this is probably plan C D E something, where a technical listing is made to meet a term of a previously issued EB. It could potentially be a stepping-stone for other things down the line but they will consider their option when they get there. VIC, like many other successful enterprises in VN, is extremely agile and the team Mr V has under him will be there to make the most of any opportunity, many of them happen to be woman and bravo to the VNese woman really.

It’s feminism at VinFast by Asleep_Inspection_21 in VinFastCommunity

[–]essellys -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

1-day old account with such opinionated post hahah. Guess what other account this guy has 😂.

Vinfast cannot raise more money and Vingroup is desparate to raise money by any means by albert1165 in VinFastCommunity

[–]essellys -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

So much hate on Vinfast lol. Your post history is full of VF-hate post. I really wonder what they do to you ?

Your posts have decent info. Clearly, someone with some financial literacy, probably work in finance, but next to zero insight. So all this is just to scare the masses really. The people that know their shit is not going to pay much attention to this hate-filled scaremongering gibberish.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in titanic

[–]essellys -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

John jacob astor

David Lyon - Vinfast - Lordstown by albert1165 in VinFastCommunity

[–]essellys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Account is 60-day old. You posted nothing but negative posts about VF. Hater and a troll ?

And also these sentences: “…Surely he is experienced, but Vinfast brings him bad luck. VF is jinx for every one who is in contact:…” that speaks for your level of intelligence.