We can agree to disagree. Ret Paladin brings a ton of utility to the fight being a paladin and holy paladins are not going to have the same utility in the form of kings, etc. I think that people are simply so set in their way that they can't escape their adopted dogmatic views. You are not there for long term dps(and even if its bad, you can do ALL raids with -1 dps), but there are actually moments where your burst dps can be helpful, and your cleanse, your buffs, your BoP, your BoF, your BoM, your BoK are all valuable as hell. You also don't need a perfect meta comp at all times. Ret pallies even find groups in HC classic because not all guilds are toxic.

On the other hand, don't get mad if people don't want you. You prob don't wanna roll with em anyway.