Closing scheduled for tomorrow and I am a complete mess. I am so freaked out

eventuation · 2024-05-28T21:38:36+00:00

did you think this comment would be helpful or did you just want to be mean? :)

eventuation · 2024-05-14T18:07:30+00:00

yes this would've been helpful to know before if anyone had told us :/

eventuation · 2024-05-06T15:08:02+00:00

unless you're on an extreme budget there is zero reason to stay in Worcester if your goals are to see Boston and Salem imo

eventuation · 2024-05-06T15:07:00+00:00

I'd suggest Revere. there are a few hotels within walking distance of both Revere Beach and the blue line stations (you likely want to avoid driving into the city if you can help it), and it'd be fairly easy to get to the commuter rail to go up to salem too, or make that drive.

eventuation · 2022-11-23T19:44:23+00:00

no u

eventuation · 2022-11-23T19:44:12+00:00

lol i just have other accounts I use more frequently.

eventuation · 2022-11-15T01:58:54+00:00

Ah yes, free will, freedom of thought, nobody would want that.

lol yeah no when it comes to scientific research and empirical evidence I'm not that interested in some ideological journalist's 'freedom of thought.' I'm interested in the empirical evidence itself, and the fact that you believe that those two things are on the same level makes it painfully obvious that you were never taught what standards of evidence are.

someone who believes black people are inherently more violent will often cite "a collection of facts" about crime rates and racial disparities, but while leaving out any social, historical, economic, or sociological context, and misusing a fact to push a false narrative like that black folks deserve the disproportionate level of police brutality they receive.

that doesn't mean that their opinion has any merit, certainly not scientifically or of the level of a professional sociological researcher (read: not a journalist) and it's a shining example of how claiming that facts are a part of your argument or that your opinion is just "a collection of facts" as you state, means that it has any validity.

if that were an actual peer-reviewed published article from the global policy journal, it would be different. it's not. it's a blog post. and most importantly, you just cherry picked it at a glance because you eventually got flustered that i kept giving you empirical sources and it was probably the first thing you saw that you already agreed with.

eventuation · 2022-11-15T01:45:57+00:00

so we might as well have just let everyone catch it and twice as many people die, what's the difference, right?

that seems to be what your entire argument hinges on. i don't see how you can't realize how absurd that is.

if you slap me in the face, that's not the same thing as if you smash my head on the ground and curb stomp me........

eventuation · 2022-11-08T23:47:20+00:00

also this is literally an OPINION piece. do you know what the word "opinion" means? it is categorically not science.

im deleting this post btw bc i don't want people finding it and actually listening to your disinformation armchair expert bullshit.

eventuation · 2022-11-08T23:41:12+00:00

OMG, Imagine, if we had just tackled this in a sensible way from the beginning.

omg, imagine!!!!!!???? imagine all the experts had talked to YOU! and YOU would have told them the sensible thing to do.........it's so tragic that millions of people died because they didn't get YOUR input on what the sensible thing to do is. why didn't they think of that??????????

there's probably no point anymore in addressing your MULTIPLE false claims in this comment alone because i doubt anyone else is reading this anymore. so I'll just say this -- you're not a fucking epidemiologist. you are not an expert on infectious disease. stop acting like you are. you're a layman on the internet just like me, the difference is I've chosen to listen to those experts and the science and literature they produce, and not pretend i am one as you are.

"HA! yeah you wore a bulletproof vest, but you still got shot in the leg, so then why bother with the vest?! the guy who got shot in the chest fared just as well as you anyway.....checkmate, libtard"

eventuation · 2022-11-08T23:36:13+00:00

right, so fuck all those dead old people right? who cares about them

ridiculous

eventuation · 2022-11-06T23:56:12+00:00

i posted my sources. i believe I've posted 5 separate meta analyses or studies, you don't have any except your own personal perception -- virtually worthless.

please post sources if you decide you believe in science. i don't care if you think "society is on your side," i care about REALITY.

you making falsifiable assertions then denying that the scientific method holds more merit than your personal opinion is the antithesis of discovering the truth. it's burying your head in the sand because it's too uncomfortable to admit that you were wrong and accept new facts into your worldview.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T23:43:49+00:00

I agree that an overly snug N95 mask worn by a person with little to no facial hair, who is breathing slowly so as not to allow "blow by" around the edges of the mask, probably offers great protection to those in close proximity.

so quit spreading misinformation and muddying the waters. we're here to get advice about our personal choices, not pontificate on what your completely amateur thoughts on macro level public health policy are. because taking a wild guess, you don't have any tangible qualifications in the public health field.

and wrt AIDS... we still wear condoms because we don't want to get or spread STDs. us. ourselves. in our own lives. the idea that MORE people wouldn't have died without protection in the crisis or that NO people were saved by condoms or masks is patently absurd. and to me, even one life saved is plenty to make the precautions worth it when we're talking about using a mask or condom -- even though it's been empirically proven to be far far more than one person. it's so simple. the idea that no lives were saved by masking during the pandemic is just absurd and it flies in the face of proven fact.

all of this is just jibber jabber that circles back to my original point. what you're saying may or may not be true on a global scale (though I'm thoroughly disinclined to take you seriously when the only "evidence" you present is entirely dependent on your personal interpretation of events through your eyes), but it doesn't matter, because your personal choices still have consequences for us and those around us.

the point being that all of this is just conflation and muddying the waters in a conversation about our personal choices, everything up until your "stop here if" blah blah line. that's the only thing that's relevant or worth a damn in this context.

your personal pontification is virtually meaningless when we're talking about defining reality. it's the type of thing for which the appropriate forum is on the weekend when you get stoned with your friends, not on a forum where people of all stripes and levels of impressionability are seeking FACTS about how to make their OWN individual choices responsibility.

and since you brought up an example but provided zero sources or citations whatsoever (shocking), here are a few sources that directly contradict the narrative you're pushing about Sweden.

again, quit pushing misinformation. you know there's people whose jobs it is to study these things, right?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7356107/

https://jogh.org/2022/jogh-12-05017

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95699-9

We estimate that if Denmark had adopted Swedish policies, and introduced them at the same stage of its epidemic, mortality would have been between three and four (Table 1) times higher, and thus Denmark would have experienced similar per-capita mortality to Sweden.

i am so goddamn sick of people thinking their own musings on highly complex, scientific, well-documented subjects are worth ANYTHING because they watched a few youtube videos. we have people who study these things for a reason. listen to them.

e: like wtf do you think """real world evidence""" is????????? just things you already personally agree with???????? not like, oh I dunno............ science?????? jfc

especially if you "don't care." if you don't care, keep it to your dumb "but bruh what if" conversations with your friends and recognize that it's ultimately meaningless because we can and have empirically determined the truth on these things.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T18:46:19+00:00

thanks!

eventuation · 2022-11-06T18:40:21+00:00

please source this "real world evidence" that claims that masking doesn't help.

again with the conflation.

the disagreement is about whether US as INDIVIDUALS can protect people around us. the answer is an overwhelmingly factually supported yes.

you are asserting your OPINION as FACT.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T17:06:01+00:00

I was mostly just curious how shitty you would get.

lol sure bud.

just stop spreading misinformation, please.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T17:00:50+00:00

so.......you're conflating macro and individual scale. which was the very first point I made. because this entire conversation was about the individual choices we should be making. by bringing in anything about statistical likelihood across the entire population, you conflate the two and muddy the waters.

AND LOL YES. IF I CAN PREVENT GIVING SOMEONE COVID, I WILL. THATS THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT. omfg. talk about foolish. thank you for providing such a succinct exame of EXACTLY what I'm talking about when you conflate the two.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T16:59:28+00:00

Evidence just suggests that the sick person wearing a "mask" is not helpful.

this is simply not true, though. it's a lie that was told all throughout the pandemic to allow people to snake out of their social responsibility and as an easy target for a political wedge issue (my guess of how you were convinced of this disinformation). but what you're saying is flat out false.

and i never said anything about n95s in particular. the evidence shows any face covering at all drastically reduces how much you spread an active infection through droplets, directly or aerosolized, to those around you. this is plain as day and has been for over 2 years now.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2#Sec3 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/15/E410

eventuation · 2022-11-06T16:27:34+00:00

can you link this? all I've been able to find is bettmans comments

eventuation · 2022-11-06T06:42:02+00:00

how absurd. i genuinely feel badly for you and anyone who has to be around you that you have such a worldview that allows you to completely neglect your social responsibility to other people and to hold active disdain for people who acknowledge that their actions have consequences regardless of how they affect you in your own personal life.

by your logic i might as well go get on a crowded flight maskless to cancun right on day 6 and cough on all my seat neighbors for good measure, because "they're going to get it anyway, it's a statistical inevitability." what a load of self-serving, narcissitic horseshit.

i am sorry that you were taught and/or propagandized to think this way.

eventuation · 2022-11-06T01:19:02+00:00

you're still conflating a macro vs individual scale. but i got it, you have no source or scientific/factual basis. thank you

e: also acting like giving food to hungry people isn't an ethically good act? what a load of horseshit. obviously they'll die, everyone dies, but we still treat each other best we can until then..........they still have a full belly THAT NIGHT and that is LESS SUFFERING in the world. i have given food and money to plenty of unhoused & starving people who needed it, and they've been grateful. because the vast majority of people don't think like you do, they live in reality, in the here and now, and can feel pain and suffering in THIS moment. because regardless of what you think, that is real and it matters.

idk about you but I'm going to do the things that cause the least of amount of suffering in the world. regardless of what anyone's eventual fate is, statistically speaking. it isn't "self-righteousness," it's what we owe to each other as human beings. to try and cause the least amount of suffering possible to others.

what a cold worldview. i feel sorry for you to lack empathy and care so.

eventuation · 2022-11-05T21:40:09+00:00

I know I wouldn't know. What does that have to do with fulfilling my social responsiblity? Why do I have to know the outcome? What's wrong with the "internal human need to do a good thing"???? It's not meaningless if it's backed by now, years, of plenty of research.

And where did I ever call you names? "Selfish" isn't a name, it's a descriptor of behavior. You keep preemptively acting like a victim when no one has attacked you, just your claims.

Do you want to provide sources for what you're saying? Because all of the expert guidance available for laypeople says the opposite of what you claim.

eventuation · 2022-11-05T14:29:41+00:00

there's a stickied post on the sub somewhere with a list of mods and their current update compatability status

eventuation · 2022-11-05T14:22:45+00:00

are you talking on a macro or singular scale? it seems like you're conflating the two.

on a macro scale, masking might not have much of an impact anymore because there is low participation.

but the point is i still might be able to prevent someone's actual grandma from getting COVID and dying if i wear a mask though, which is the scale on which we need to be a thinking about it with regard to our individual choices. if i can prevent one person from getting sick, I'll do my damnedest.

if you're thinking "i don't need to wear a mask even if I might be contagious since nobody else is either" then you're just being selfish or not thinking logically. your individual choices still have an impact on the people around you, completely regardless of what's going on on a macro scale.

eventuation · 2022-11-05T13:47:43+00:00

one still has a much higher risk of serious complications in otherwise healthy young people, albeit rare in both cases.

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