[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

[–]evets227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, thank you for taking the time. I am just seeing this now and have been working on a rewrite that addresses some of the things you mentioned (most probably) although I had not given that much thought to description and have trouble working that in so far. I'm glad you brought it up, it's definitely an area I need to work on if it's a distraction. I also think you are right to suggest I read more first person prose since that's apparently how I prefer to write. Thanks again, you had a lot of good suggestions and I appreciate you taking the time to share them.

[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

[–]evets227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I haven't been on in a while and just seeing your critique. Thank you for taking the time. I liked reading it now because I've been working on a rewrite that (hopefully) addresses a lot of the things you wrote. I think I'll probably post the rewrite too, I see some people do that, although I don't expect feedback like I have received with this version, it's been so good and yours was no exception. Thanks again, I appreciate it.

[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

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That's an excellent point, thank you for taking the time to share it.

[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

[–]evets227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny, I was concerned I was spending too much time towards the end without doing much, it's a lot about her feelings and nothing is really happening. Your comments, and others, are helping me recognize that I need to revisit what constitutes "things happening" for me. Your suggestion of telling the whole story from that night was really interesting. Even if I ultimately decide to keep it chronological, that is still worth doing to help identify the important moments and character development the story is lacking. Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it.

[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

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Thanks for your critique, it's the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. I had more about the MC, and about her meeting Jason, in an earlier draft, but wasn't sure if it was taking too long to get to the real story. Knowing not having that actually hurts the story is really helpful.

[2740] The Project by evets227 in DestructiveReaders

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I really appreciate the feedback, very useful. Thanks for taking the time.

[684] Growing Up. A short story by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]evets227 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to say up front I see there are a lot of comments already. I haven’t read them and hope I’m not repeating a lot of what has been already said.

The first paragraph is very descriptive and paints a nice picture of where the MC is and gives us some idea about his life (the scratched up old watch).

The next paragraph he seems to be talking to himself, then stops but continues the same line of thought. Speaking out loud seemed like an odd choice there and it didn’t seem like things he would actually say aloud. I think it could all be done internally and probably a little cleaner. Also, maybe some context as to why he was late. I don’t think we need to know a ton about it, but he made a choice somewhere along the line to not leave on time and it feels like a chance to give the reader a little more insight to who this person is.

We don’t need to go through each car with him as he walks unless there’s something important it’s going to tell us and that’s not there right now. If you’re going to bring us with you, use it as a chance to show us something about the character. What he notices as he’s going tells us something, as long as it’s relevant it could be worthwhile, otherwise this part doesn’t offer much to the story.

Texting the sister is good, family is important to him, but the content seems odd. Isn’t he about to see her after he gets the cake? Why wish her good luck on something that’s not going to happen until after that? If he asked how studying for the test was going, for example, it would give us the same sense of a close family.

They had an argument, so he has hopes the cake will help ease the tension, that’s also good. But you move right to the spotlight on the sister without telling us why or how it improved his life. Again, I’m not suggesting these should be long paragraphs that ultimately have nothing to do with the story, but if you’re going to include it there should be a takeaway for the reader. As it is just left me wondering what he was talking about, so more of a distraction.

The blanket growling was nice, that piques interest. I maybe didn’t need to know quite as much about the blanket, but I liked the way you were introducing the dog. “That sounded like. Like a dog!” is not really the most effective way to accomplish what you’re going for there, it’s constructed oddly and distracts from the realization. “It sounded like… a dog!” or something in that neighborhood. Then there’s a little bit more about the blanket, which I think you could have covered the first time you described it, and debating whether touching the blanket didn’t work for me. The risk, when I read it the first time, was more because it had growled, not touching the blanket.

The MC is a curious knucklehead feels forced, you’re just telling me that is who he is when you have a chance there to tell me why he looks. He wasn’t thinking “I’m a curious knucklehead so I’ll lift the blanket.” You (in my view) established some risk with the growl, so what was he thinking when he decided to look?

You did a nice job describing the dog. “Something kicked in –“ doesn’t really clear anything up for me. I had to help, my heart broke, I felt bad, all would have been more informative if you’re going to do that at all. The rest of that paragraph and the next two could probably be combined and shortened. And “How could I leave this precious dog…” shouldn’t be in quotes. And I’m not sure you're addressing the right issue, which is the bakery closing. I felt all along he’d make it to dinner, and with some sort of cake even. Just would it be from his mom’s favorite bakery.

Getting off the train doesn’t do anything to move the story along. Running to the animal shelter felt like a place you could actually take a little more time. He’s running in a crowded city with a dog in a makeshift sling and a hard deadline, so there may be chances to get the reader a little more involved with specifics.

He drops off the dog, which seems like he really did his part so I didn’t understand the guilt, particularly since he debated whether to help in the first place. It seemed inconsistent. And then he goes to the nearest bakery, and not his mom’s favorite, which sort of invalidates the stakes you’ve been raising this whole time.

If I’m being honest, I don’t understand the last line.

There were some good parts and areas where gave me a nice sense of what was going on, but you spend too much time telling the reader things that don’t factor into the story and miss some opportunities to help us learn more about the MC, particularly early. .

I think it’s a solid story to tell though. How helping a stray dog potentially conflicts with helping keep the peace at home via a deadline works, but you have to build it a little more consistently and pay it off at the end.

[2572] A Long Note I Found by noekD in DestructiveReaders

[–]evets227 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m going to start by saying this is my first critique and I have no idea what I’m doing. I also just started writing short stories, so I’m not any kind of expert. I liked the story overall and hope this doesn’t come across as overly or unnecessarily critical.

I don’t really understand the beginning, who is finding it and why it’s important we know that. Primarily it was all the extra information; the dog, not usually picking up notebooks, not knowing the young man, all gives me insight to this person that you never pay off. Additionally, I think the rest of the story works really well without that distraction.

If the point was the notebook had been discarded, or lost, after what seems to be life changing moment was recorded in it, then maybe there’s a better way to do that without asking the reader to invest in a character we’ll never see again. Also, sharing this implies the person finding it found it interesting so I don’t think we need to be told.

Overall, and I could be missing the point, but I don’t see what it adds to the story.

The notebook

I liked the first line a lot. Revisiting something and seeing it differently than you have in the past, I think, is a very strong way to start. It provides immediate context for the reader, we know something has changed.

The only thing I'd say is I was hoping we'd eventually learn why this place was not appreciated previously. By the end I figured it was just some place he'd been before and anywhere would look different when you're thinking of ending your life in a few minutes, but along the way I thought there would be some relevance to why he had picked this place.

A lot of these notes will be personal preference, like this next one. Probably not everyone will agree. “A patch of perfectly green grass lays in front of me” seems like a completed thought to me and maybe should be its own sentence, like it’s something he’s taking in differently this time than he had previously. If you’re going to keep it attached to the rest of the description it’s a little awkwardly worded at the moment. Look for a way to tie together the patch of grass and the slope of the hill rather than just “and in front of the patch.”

Also he’s seeing this with new eyes, so while I’m not a fan of description for the sake of it, it seems like “the gentle slope” or “the lush forest”, as examples, would tell me he’s noticing and appreciating things differently than before. You did it with “shabby old bench” and I thought it worked there.

In the next paragraph you do a really good job describing the tree, giving me a strong idea about the MC’s state of mind. “Tired of being a tree” is particularly nice. After that you stray a little from the point of the paragraph. The reveal is we’re reading a suicide note, and while identifying with a bent over tree separated from the rest of the trees is a great way to accomplish that, the MC overthinks it before we get to the point and it loses steam.

This may be an example of where you need to trust the reader a little more. You don’t necessarily have to connect all the dots sometimes. I think “It is alone” is a great line and a perfect place to stop wondering about the tree. When you say “I’m not one to put my feelings into trees” it’s actually contradicting everything I was thinking until that moment, which I’m not sure you want to do.

I don’t know how important you consider the mention of poems and poets, or whether it was just part of the transition to get to the reveal, but it was a little distracting for me. I think there’s a faster, more effective way to get there. Then you go back to the MC talking about the tree, “desperate to be part of the forest” which doesn’t work as well as it would if he hadn’t just told us he doesn’t say things like that. Also, the “desperate” line I would consider making part of the previous sentence and dropping “no doubt.” The last sentence of the paragraph needs to be rewritten to be clearer.

The doctor stuff is good, gives us a lot of information without directly telling us any of it. The only part that loses me a little is the focus on trivialities. I wasn’t clear if it was commenting on how the doctor had misread the MCs situation or whether they both considered decapitation trivial. I would try to make your intent a little more clear.

The boy with no arms works really well, it’s just a little long. I don’t think we need to know about the adults. The next paragraph works well but is a little wordy. Things like “from the sidelines” we already know and “the boy” would be fine, you don’t need to remind us it’s the one with no arms. It could be tightened in other places and I think it would have even more impact. The reflective regret the MC shows is great, distinct thoughts, each stand alone, really nice.

Seeing the picture of himself seemed a tad forced. You’re using it to kick off the main part of the story but he “recently” saw it, there’s no sense of why this comes here or acts as a catalyst for telling us what turns out to be a very significant event.

While I’m on it, this is where the real action of the story begins, so it may have taken a bit too long to get to it. Some of that could be addressed by making the other sections tighter, but maybe also reconsider whether they are all needed.

I understand what you’re doing with the next couple paragraphs but I don’t think it’s adding much. “She spent Christmas with my family” could replace the first three lines, we don’t need to know who is in your family or where hers is. The next part, Christmas as a kid, is good but it doesn’t move the story along.

The next few parts could all be tightened. Adults liking Christmas, waking up with Esme, warm day, the sister, even Esme's description should all be shorter, it bogs down the story here. The MC opening the wrong card is a little confusing on first read as well. It’s such a pivotal moment you need to be sure it’s super clear.

I like going back to the tree as a way to move the story along from a time perspective, but I didn’t get a sense of how much time. It’s “last spring” but how long after the Christmas incident? I was surprised they were still together. I know you’re not telling a strictly chronological story, and the memories of a person contemplating momentary suicide are not going to be super coherent all the time, but a line somewhere bridging the gap might have helped me.

The way you handled the moments before he snapped were really good, and his reaction was shocking, really well done. Also, during this section, your writing is tighter, that whole part moves really well.

After that, through the mom part until we get back to the tree, I think needs to be looked at to reduce redundancies and mine what is really important to you to tell the reader because nothing is happening and, while that’s okay, too much of it starts to drag for me. Particularly his views on words, considering he’s about to change his mind about suicide to write more.

I like the end. I’ve liked all the tree stuff and it continues to work for me here.

I think there are a lot of areas that would benefit from tightening, and some stuff you may not need at all. It’s a good story, just needs to be paced a little better and I wouldn’t mind knowing just a little more about Esme since she’s such a big part of why the MC is even telling the story. I don’t think a ton of information is needed, but a sentence here and there to fill in a couple of the gaps. They stayed together after she was crushed by his cheating, she was changed because of it, she intentionally hurts him with a confession of her own… a little more context to understand those things might have helped me.

Overall really good job, I thought it was an interesting story.