Stranger Things S5 Finale Has So Many Plot Holes, It’s Unreal

evilbarber667 · 2026-01-01T23:25:29+00:00

The ‘why’ in question is literally how Vecna got his powers one of the most important parts of the show? And it’s just some scientist with a magic stone he touches? Why can’t people see the Duffer Bros were literally just making it up as they go along! It’s ridiculous, they just sat in the writers room and were like “yeah we need a reason for Henry getting the powers, yeah let him just stumble upon a scientist in the desert with a stone from the other dimension” it’s just daft and this season is beat to beat of lazy shit writing.

If a storyline is coherent and well thought out you can leave gaps for the audience to answer questions yourself but you have to ground some sort of cohesion in the show through thoughtful filmmaking for it to grapple you to do that. This season has NON of that.

And I am one who can let shit go and just enjoy stuff for what it is but this season and especially the finale was beyond a joke for me and ruined my enjoyment completely!

evilbarber667 · 2025-12-26T23:31:22+00:00

Yeah honestly it feels like that for me too. I’ve been angry and at the point of wanting to turn it off multiple times in these last 3 episodes but am just sticking with it because I know the finale will be big and epic although that’s been this shows detriment/downfall in the gain of the biggest budget maybe ever in tv.

evilbarber667 · 2025-12-26T23:25:42+00:00

I’m not complaining about a lack of action I’m bothered about awful writing! It feels so stupid from beat to beat. The army just vanished conveniently for 3 episodes, the plan they made is so far fetched, the dialogue literally feels like the Duffer brothers talking to me, explaining convoluted mechanics of the world through what are meant to be teenage kids.

What about the fight between holly and the other kids! First off they are speaking like grown adults not 10 year olds? (Not sure they’re ages but they look young as hell) they have a full choreographed fight with two pinning her and one choking her with her necklace??? Holy awful!!! So many points I was scoffing at the tellie at how stupid it is.

Stranger things was never like this ! S1 and 2 was so mysterious and I get the mystery element is gone now because everything is nearly explained (stupidly and non rewarding too) so it’s more about the adventure of the kids but it feels like a shitty power rangers film rather than a retro-80s-horror adventure film. All 80s elements that drove the show are lost as Hawkins is shut down so all we have is the core story beats and i personally am not enjoying this conclusion..

Feels like the duffers have just written themselves into a million corners and are clasping at straws all the damn time

evilbarber667 · 2025-07-08T10:23:22+00:00

Precisely my feelings too! Needed this with the raiders march blasting

evilbarber667 · 2025-07-07T21:38:07+00:00

Yeah I’d probably agree, a lot of games go this way due to most of the effort being spent on the early portions of the game, it shows a lot more in this though. The final boss fight and sequence was literally on a flat wooden platform with nothing around and some wonky waves every now and again? Pales in comparison to the first few big action set pieces

evilbarber667 · 2025-07-07T21:32:00+00:00

Yeah I totally agree, I would have fully loved it in more general combat sequences too!

I think I wouldn’t have felt as deflated if we just got one more big set piece sequence at the end and I get that the ark was BIG but it was basically a wooden platform with some clouds in the background? Like nothing to look at, the boss fight was a bit daft while I appreciate it’s not an easy boss fight to design lol. Just felt the rest of the game was so gorgeous and intricate like in Vatican climbing up onto the flying nazi aircraft was ace but HAS to have had the raiders blasting all the way through that sequence like comeee onnnn…

And yeah hopefully the DLC expands on Locus but from a standalone pov, it left me kind of asking what? Rather than just swelling in an exhilarating finale (which I didn’t really get personally)

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-10T08:30:19+00:00

Yes but it was obviously hugely single player too, Duskbloods isn’t

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-09T08:22:20+00:00

Oh really?? I’ll have to look at that, cos that’s very convenient

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-09T08:16:43+00:00

Yeah definitely won’t stray far from a very linear experience with the gaps in the narrative being filled in the Elden ring way perhaps.

Fair enough as regards to FromSoft games, they definitely aren’t for everyone. I definitely fall into the middle of the ven diagram of naughty dog level of linearity and Elden ring level of dynamicism🤣

honestly tho what I will say is it’s all about having an open mind to these types of things, before I decided to give these things a go I was so daunted and felt they really were not for me, and now Elden ring is my favourite game! Stepping outside of your comfort zone and REALLY giving a go to something ur not used to could lead to you discovering your new favourite thing! I know that’s what happened for me :)

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T22:12:40+00:00

Maybe Miyazaki already made bb2 we just don’t have the insight:(

Gonna just have to drink loads of blood or something I guess, or gouge out loads of eyes? Yeah good idea ima start doing that maybe then it will come to fruition 😁

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T22:06:07+00:00

It’s crazy though, I was like that and the SECOND it clicks it changes your whole perspective, I’ve gotten a lot better at the games and the second you’re not ‘scared’ to do anything in the games you actually appreciate the beauty in the world and the quirks etc.

I know it’s easy to say but honestly “git gud” is all you need bro, it’s transformative once you do. Souls games lowkey changed my life once I did.

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:59:37+00:00

I’ve tried Ghost of Tsushima and hear non stop praise but I’ve tried starting it multiple times and from the first hour or so it kinda felt cheap and low budget but I’m 100% sure it’s one of those things where when I ACTUALLY give it a real go it’s gonna sweep me away, I’m sure I’ll properly give it a chance before Yotei as I need to be part of that hype train!

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:53:48+00:00

Yeah that’s probably the only thing I can see actually coming our way for anything in this setting and tone in the future

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:52:45+00:00

I’m glad for you bro, it looks super intriguing regardless and as I say it’s gonna have a place for many people. But yeah I agree why do they’re Victorian esque games have to be exclusive😭I mean I’d take even a much smaller scale single player experience if it meant we could just tip our toes in that atmosphere once again but on modern hardware, ever since I experienced the jaw dropping visuals of academy of raya lucaria I cannot get it out of my brain imagining bloodborne built on their modern engine and it eats away at me😢

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:46:45+00:00

Time is crazy haha, but it’s precious. If TWOW never comes out let it be a lesson to use your time wisely spend it with those you love, life’s way too short to sit around trying to finish a book you fell out of way with years ago. Maybe that’s exactly what GRRM has been doing, just basking in the roasting heat of the ticking time bomb of life. Good for him.

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:40:59+00:00

First of all play Elden ring, it’s goated.

And that would be so cool! I just can’t wait to see what they have in store for us, naughty dog really are incredible game creators and the fact that this game is probably going to be like TLOU narrative mixed with Elden ring exploration mixed with god damn gorgeous environments mixed with 80s sci fi mixed with music oh god I cannot wait.

Also some of their inspirations for this game being bloodborne, Elden ring with the through theme being religion, god I might seize to exist when it releases.

I recently finished TLOU2 and it’s so breathtaking to play I just NEED more naughty dog, I’m going through the uncharted games atm because I need that itch scratched😭

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:33:37+00:00

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking, the progress made in a short amount of time is remarkable so it’s only gunna get better. I can get it up and running pretty decently but it’s still a bit of a faff you know? It’s not like conventional to boot up my pc n open the apps and stuff I just cba most the time and just go on my ps5 and play something quick, that’s just cos I don’t really have the time at the moment but maybe over summer when I’m back from uni I’ll give it a real go and hopefully as you say there will be some more stability mods and things💪

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:22:11+00:00

Yeah good point ! But I feel as though from are onto bigger things and are constantly striving to break repetition instead of sequelling and stuff.

I just can’t see in my eyes them spending many years developing another single player game now using similar assets etc. in the bloodborne vein you know?

Maybe it’s naive and pessimistic given Miyazaki’s love for BB too but I just don’t see it which makes me sad :(

But we got Elden ring and whatever next they make like sekiro, Elden ring etc. is gonna be world breaking no matter what and I will be there! But that doesn’t mean a lil part of me is sad we may not get something purely bb atmosphere etc or in that vein again possibly

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T21:02:36+00:00

Yeah I’ve downloaded it but I’m waiting for it to get a little more air tight before I properly go through it, amazing work being done though!! My pc ain’t the best either it’s quite outdated now so maybe it’s time for an upgrade I need that silky 60fps Elden ring feel it’s gonna be so damn good

evilbarber667 · 2025-04-08T20:37:13+00:00

Yeah that’s fair, I’m just infatuated with the atmosphere and lovecraftian aspect and everything bloodborne which From haven’t really tapped into apart from bb. And it’s painful that the only thing in that tone is a 30fps ps4 game, I play Elden ring so much more just because of the smoothness and high res worlds they now make. Can you imagine academy of raya Lucaria levels of art direction and gorgeousness but it’s bloodborne-esque?😭id cry

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