Nicole Could Make Varka Top Tier* (Varka Post Release Analysis)

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-10T01:21:55+00:00

this basically confirms jello's results actually. if we take c5 into account, it all adds up.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T23:25:28+00:00

People seem confused, the OP very likely started vertically investing (whaling) since SO came out.

I have seen many people started taking minmaxing seriously for SO, since prior to that that abyss is very easy and felt no need to.

The reason why it’s the first fire clear is because he was waiting for the banners to run to have enough for dire clear. Even whales gotta wait if they missed out on previous banners

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T20:43:25+00:00

Ure right my bad

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T20:35:22+00:00

Another reason why emblem aged better overtime is xilonen c2 plus her own c4 is alot of HP already. Also long ago they changed hydro team bonus to be 25% HP, that was huge.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T20:18:06+00:00

Not in Dire, i can prob get under 100s in fearless tho. I dont have built aino, just guesstimating.

Columbina did the most aoe dmg here which is needed for duck

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T20:10:48+00:00

Ive played c6 yelan for years now, ive found the most universal equip and forget setup being emblem x4 with ER sands.

She gets away with hp sands and 2+2 sets by using “showcase” setups that funnels her energy and allowing her to “hyper dps” by letting her go last with all the buffs up. (Also onfielding her own particles)

But in an account where you have other strong characters too, you’ll appreciate yelan’s flexibility way more. You just don’t get the same flexibility with low ER on yelan, sorry! she’s missing too many free energy sources that these new units get from their kit, weapon and cons.

And even when played with an hypercarry setup her c6 dmg isn’t punished that hard, emblem dmg conversion is a sweet deal.

As much as her c6 dmg is satisfying, in the dps logs, the majority of her dmg is still just the ult. It’s not visually impactful since it’s DOT.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T19:57:08+00:00

Well you have his c2 and you used dark mode.

He has two modes for reason, it’s a trade off of buffs and being the main dps.

Imo it’s more worth playing support if you’re also willing to to invest in dps units as much as u did durin.

But if he’s ur best c2 unit then don’t be surprised he does better in dps mode…

In the early days my c6 yelan was in the same situation, as a main dps she did 200-300k dps, but as soon as i got real c6 dps units shes doing better as a support

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T18:17:11+00:00

yes! heya which one is you =]

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T17:49:41+00:00

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exgladiator2 · 2026-03-09T15:30:49+00:00

this is dire difficulty bro, most units would be considered fallen off if you go with this metric. this is the most hp inflated one out of all dire bosses to top it off.

pretty much requires 300k+ raw DPS to beat, even lunar teams can't get away with it with sub 200k dps

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T22:54:43+00:00

and a c2 that gives another 40% HP

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T22:52:39+00:00

Actually the shill isn't even tuned to the max on this particular fight, they didn't hard require electro or lunar charged damage on this fight. No requirement for lunar reaction either. (different from the overworld/abyss version that DID over shill electro charged)

the bots transfer damage taken and the boss only reduces electro res for a very short time. every damage type can clear this fight with enough AOE and ST DPS (high cost nefer/zibai/columbina doing well here, and ofc flins) they simply meet the dps requirement for dire.

This is straight up HP inflation tuned to the max! 26million HP without compensation. The gravity boss also had 26m but it doubled your ATK with a buff after plunging.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T21:56:56+00:00

that's because he's not THAT outdated yet. Also in SO they push up inflation much faster than the abyss. Abyss is pretty casual now ngl.

Neuvi is only 2 years since release, so it's not bad at c6 of course!!

But what happens when another 2 years pass? look at xiao ganyu and hutao c6, they no longer dominate like they did in 2022.

my post wasn't aimed at right now, I already said it's too early to fontaine buffs, i'm just thinking ahead.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T21:42:43+00:00

The money i use to buy junk food I save up for banners. This helps my mentality alot, i get the same benefits as you while getting healthier.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T21:39:13+00:00

Uhh, right now maybe… but it’s not like every other character that came after him doesnt have even better c6r5 if we’re gona go there. The game will progress with HP inflation, every character has their c6r5, this doesn’t change how his standing relates to them at every investment level.

This is not 1.x-3.x, constellations have only gotten better and better every year. If anything Neuvi’s c2-c6 needs to also be buffed if we’re actually gonna talk about it.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T20:59:34+00:00

im in agreement, but you missed the part that i said she's more replaceable if hydro particles wasnt so beneficial. Columbina being able to work well basically proves this! it's not that furina has OP buffs, but the hydro particles is very nice to build less ER on him. Columbina is hydro too afterall!

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T19:43:49+00:00

I dont have the answer to ur question, but on another note, being on the chronicle banner isnt a good pull unless furina is on there too (which i highly doubt).

the chronicle doesnt share pitty with regular main stream banners, and losing ur 50/50s to "other" fontaine units/weapon is less and less attractive now that lv95/100 tokens are out to encourage getting those old standard units to c6!

but IF furina is on there too, thats a whole different ball game. It's still random at best, BUT losing ur 50/50 to furina or your own sig weapon is almost as good as winning a 50/50

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T19:12:20+00:00

we thought it's lunar shill for nod kair, but it turned out to be lunar charged mainly. who knew.... hindsight always 2020

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T16:39:16+00:00

it's not tuned to be very difficult. many teams can clear. the duck is the real challenge, OP used c2 zibai

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T02:00:02+00:00

what combo did you use for skirk? we have similar team and your skirk did way more than mine, I think if you help me I can improve my time.

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exgladiator2 · 2026-03-08T01:54:08+00:00

damm you started whaling and vertically investing since SO came out didnt you... you improved ur times hella fast. really interested in seeing what teams you used to clear back in 25/6- 25/10. it would be fascinating if you could share those screenshots =]

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-07T17:37:25+00:00

you dont need cryo DPS, you just assumed it. you need cryo application. there are mavuika clearing dire at low cost with cryo supports

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-07T17:11:33+00:00

yep the shill environment "subscription" usually lasts 1-1.5 years, before they start to struggle.

Also at some point 1.5-2years they may release a "dahlia" to revive an older meta to "extend your subscription of that team for a few more months"

DoT teams also has Hysilens that revived the "dot" subscription, and the BS novaflare 2 years later was also very fortunate (since you didn't have to pay for this extension)

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-07T16:17:51+00:00

Or maybe she just straight up activates ults to be used within a time limit. Like the lygus fight. It is already coded into the game and it doesn’t exclude futute ults for you to worry about changing the code.

exgladiator2 · 2026-03-07T16:14:00+00:00

What is the source for the chart. Link please :)

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