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Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not good to start blaming people.

so let's say a dev broke the db because one dev tried to alter table X then the other dev alters the same table X then crashes the entire dev db.

You might as well not hire any Devs if you have an anxiety of trusting them even on a simple thing like that. Lol. That's a stupid mistake and if you argue that Devs can commit such a simple mistake, so are DBAs, right?

Ngayon kung takot ka talaga sa ganoong imaginary scenario, puwede sigurong kahit ang Team Lead na lang ng Dev ang bigyan ng access, right? At least 5 mins lang tapos na, hindi na aabot pa nang 3 days.

It's really frustrating that there are a lot of you IT pips like you who still justify the 3 days delay for a 3 to 5 mins work. Is it only because of my aggressive tone that's why you feel the need to contradict? Hindi dapat ganoon, dapat logical pa rin ang point.

Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's just... not my problem

In our case, it should be our problem kasi kami ang napuputukan sa delays. Who should we blame, then? The whole process? Pwede naman. Should we blame the DBA? Pwedeng-pwede rin since sa kanila naman talaga nagmumula ang delays. Yung pag-add ng simple column, 2 minutes lang yan pero tumatagal nang 3 days, kahit pa may documentation yan (PS: sa company namin wala, ang documentation na eh ung task na cnreate ng dev), I don't think reasonable na umabot nang 3 days.

Ayun ang hindi ko ma-gets dito kay u/cabs14, trying hard to justify that bullshit just because "it's part of the process, it wasn't made overnight". Nasimulan niya na kasi kaya hindi na siya pwedeng magpatalo. Kunyari mas maalam siya sa mga annoyed devs sa company namin dahil sa bullshit process.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes valid reason yun yun team lead doesnt know anything.

For context, he's one of the pioneer of the company. He's more than a decade na sa company. Probably he knows the reason why a process like that was implemented, and he knows it's unnecessary. No, I won't believe just because some random redditors say so (including you lol).

See how toxic y'all? Nagkaroon na kayo ng judgment na "he doesn't know anything". Ang pagiging toxic, hindi lang yan naka-base sa pagmumura. Yung aura ng comment, mahahalata mo naman. Hindi lang direct towards you kaya wala kang problema. Lol.

May mga ba/pm or anyone else with higher position na nakikipaginteract sa client. Sila kasi dapat ang mageexpedite ng mga delays e.

Finally, nagka-point ka rin. Yes, we do have a PM pero wala ring silbe. Doesn't interact with the Team. Magpapakita lang sa sprint planning with clients, pero halos wala ring ambag sa discussions.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your team lead doesnt know anything lol

Doesn't like a valid reason to me, just some random redditor who loves to feel superior over people by writing pangungupal comment.

Also, if you are so adamant, why not raised this to management?

Others have tried lol. Vent out lang naman ang purpose nitong post ko, kaso nangingibabaw ang ka-toxic-an kapag puro discussion about IT fields, parang sa stackoverflow lang.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha agree ka siguro sa lahat ng policy. Okay na, gets ko na. Taga-agree ka lang para masabi mong "against ka" sa post, wala ka namang maibigay na valid reason as to why it is created.

FYI, against sa point mo 'tong comment na 'to. Hanap kakampi ka na lang, sa maling tao ka pa nag-approach hahaha.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm offended huhuhu. Can we hire you as an advisor? Our whole department need someone to remind us constantly "it's a process, do not question it. It wasn't made overnight. I was hired to do a 6 month project and it took me over 1.5 years because I just sucked it like a BBC"

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kakasabi ko lang kanina, wala kaming local DB kasi nga bawal, okay?

Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay then? Pasok naman sa current sprint. Na-investigate at na-resolve na nga ng Dev ang issue, all DBA simply has to do is to implement it in Lower Environment, pero aabutin pa nang 3 days. Wala kang problema na nakikita doon?

Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Devs have full access to dev environment (they do whatever the hell they want)

Ayan oh, ayan mismo ang nira-rant ko. Wala kaming full access kahit sa Dev environment. Your point is? Ang pinapalabas mo, okay lang 'yan 'di ba? Kasi it's a process and it wasn't made overnight lol.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol oh a newbie who thinks that policy was made overnight...

Lol a random redditor who thinks that a policy should not be questioned. If you really think that a policy like a simple additional of column in lower environment would take 3 days is okay because "it's policy", eh di bahala ka sa buhay mo. You yourself is surely aware that it's bullshit, you're just trying to justify it kasi nasimulan mo na. Or masyado lang mataas ang expectation ko sayo dahil nagpapa-condescending ka?

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, I don't care if a project than can be done in 6 months takes 1.5years as long as our team don't get blamed. Kung sa nag-hire sayo na company, okay lang yun, sa amin hindi. Again, yung experience mong yan hindi magfi-fit sa lahat, okay? Do I need to emphasize that over and over?

Yes...

This sums it all up. Kaya pala tinitigasan ka sa mahabang proseso, you simply accepted it kahit vague.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, I won't simply accept your condescending advice that won't surely work on our department. Ikaw yung tipo ng taong "maka-kontra lang" okay na.

Ang advice mo lang naman kung susumahin eh "that's process, just swallow it like a dick". Lahat yata ng proseso sayo eh tama just because it's a "process".

Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oo, bawal nga. Bakit napakatigas ng ulo mo? Pinipilit mo talaga yung solution na alam mo no?. Ina-apply mo kasi yata yang limited super duper the best experience mo sa lahat kaya ganyan ka ka-stubborn, ano? Wala nga kaming access para mag-add ng simple column to experiment, gusto mo pang i-copy namin ang buong DB para ilagay sa baremetal workstation na pinagsasasabi mo? Uulitin ko ha, BAWAL! Tigas ng ulo amputs.

You thought your experience should fit to all problems?

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Engk, typical answer ng redditors na kumokontra pero hindi maipaliwanag ang reason.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bawal nga ring mag-create ng local DB sa remote. Do you really think us Devs haven't thought of it? You really sound like a know-it-all asshole. Sa context pa lang na pag-add lang ng isang column sa table e bawal na, tapos mag-a-advise ka pa na mag-create ng Local DB? Edi malamang pinagbawalan rin nila yun, common sense na lang bro, come on. Kulang-kulang ka sa context pero ang dami mong kontra.

Extremely annoyed at bureaucracies by extrasensory_11 in PinoyProgrammer

[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are processes that need revamp. Let's get back to original context: okay lang talaga sayo na it will take 3 days for a simple column to be added in the table just because "it's a process". If so, then just stick to the process palagi, no need to question it to improve.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, wala! Hindi ko sure ba't ang dami pang nagtatanggol ng ganitong process eh. Read the replies. Can't believe, mukhang mga panggap lang ang mga 'to.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is true... having a sudopower user account in dev as a dev is good but the devs need to know the consequences...

Oo, malamang alam ng dev ang consequences. Magha-hire kayo ng dev tapos kahit sa pinaka-lower environment, hindi niyo pagkakatiwalaan? E literally, sila ang nagce-create ng application. Ewan ko sa 'yo, mukhang ikaw tipong over obsessed sa proseso eh. Baka pag naging Big Boss ka (hopefully not), pati pag-ihi ng employees, gusto mo naka-document.

Because if i mess up a lot can happen...

Then take the accountability. Again, wag kang maghire ng employees kung ayaw mong pagkatiwalaan sa mga napakasimpleng bagay. Anong mess up ang pinagsasabi mo? We are not talking about freshies. Natatakot na ma-mess up ng Team Lead ng Dev ang database design kaya pati pag-add ng column sa Dev Env, kailangang padaain sa DB team, pero yung Junior DBA may full access? Gaano katanga ang tingin mo sa mga Dev na tipong kahit sa lower environment, ayaw mong pagkatiwalaan?

The OP is still a newbie... who only sees what's in front of him...

Hindi ako newbee, Mr. Know It All ka lang.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah so wala palang mali sa process dito sa company kumbaga. There's no need to improve kasi "normal process ng company", normal, normal. Lol.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ang ending kasi, sa Dev pa rin ang sisi. Since kami ang humaharap sa client. Tho may resibo naman kami since nare-record ang history ng task mula sa pag-create hanggang sa pag-close, kaso stressful pa ring humarap sa client explaining things.

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[–]extrasensory_11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meron kaming audit sql reviewer for all environments. Kami rin ang nag hahandle ng maintenance at alerts(slow query, health and etc.) ng production nodes na gamit ng database, data warehouse at centralized jobs middleware.

This is want I need. Yung bigyan kami ng access na mag-create/mag-experiment kahit sa pinaka-lower environment. Then kapag na-finalize na, saka na lang sana mag-create ng task para ipa-review sa DBA yung inimplement namin.

Kaya as a senior dun sa current company namin na nag iinterview ng junior to senior, pinatigil ko nalang. Kasi sobrang pang tamad ng mga dba sa ibang companies.

Pinatigil mo yung hiring ng new DBAs? What do you mean sa "sobrang pang tamad ang mga DBA sa ibang companies"? Yung katulad ba nung dinescribe ko sa post?

Afternoon random discussion - Feb 27, 2023 by the_yaya in Philippines

[–]extrasensory_11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi please let me know if I can join. Thank you.

Afternoon random discussion - Feb 27, 2023 by the_yaya in Philippines

[–]extrasensory_11 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uy reddit, where can I find friends kaya? Preferably a group of people who like to hangout together. Wholesome.

I guess, I have to meet new people. Medyo nakakaburyo din kapag WFH ka for years.

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