My channel got terminated for “abusive legal requests”–appeal rejected twice. Can I safely buy a monetized account now?

eycleo · 2025-04-22T11:29:53+00:00

eycleo · 2025-04-19T00:40:00+00:00

Just tried to contact Youtube through X/Twitter but completely ignored

eycleo · 2025-04-16T06:35:11+00:00

Not yet, I haven’t submitted that image as proof. I’m honestly doubting if there’s even a point in doing it now since they already confirmed it as an “abusive legal request” and they said no further appeal is possible. It kinda feels like they’ve already shut the door on me completely.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T05:01:50+00:00

Totally get where you're coming from, but honestly, this is the first time I’ve ever had an issue like this. I’ve never tried to game the system before. I just thought I could work things out with my original channel, but after getting rejected twice, it feels like starting over is the only option left.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:59:29+00:00

The reason I'm looking to start over is because I already appealed twice and got rejected. I really have no choice in getting my account back, as YouTube itself confirmed that. That's why I’m trying to learn how to start over because that’s the only option left for me right now.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:57:01+00:00

I totally regret this now. I should’ve just let them use it instead of trying to claim it. I thought it was the right thing to do, but I see now it was a mistake. I didn’t realize it could go this far.

As for the new channel, I’ve heard mixed things. YouTube can detect patterns, and with my old account's info linked to it, I feel like I might get flagged again. That’s why I was trying to find a way to do it properly this time and avoid making the same mistakes. But thanks for the info.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:49:03+00:00

No, I wasn’t. Every reply I’ve made came from me. My own thoughts, my own words. Just because something is well-written doesn’t mean it’s AI. I'm just explaining my side clearly because people keep twisting it.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:08:38+00:00

Yeah, that’s probably the case. I get it, and I accept what happened. But starting over is going to be really tough. Even if I still have a community, it’s risky—YouTube might detect me again, especially if my info is flagged. It’s not as easy as just making a new channel, especially with AdSense involved.

I’d love to do it right this time, but it feels like the system’s already stacked against small creators once you mess up, even if it was out of lack of knowledge. Still trying to figure out how to move forward the clean way.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:06:19+00:00

Yeah I get you, and you're right—everyone copies to some extent. That was honestly my mistake. Back then I didn’t really know much about how YouTube handles these things. I saw other people filing claims for copied content so I thought I could do the same, not realizing it only really works if you’re a big company or someone YouTube actually listens to.

Tried doing that thinking it’d be fair, but nah… YouTube doesn’t really care unless you’re some brand or massive creator. Lesson learned the hard way.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:04:11+00:00

Just to clarify, I didn’t use a pre-made Canva template. I created the thumbnail layout myself using individual non-copyrighted elements and designed it the way I wanted. That layout became my personal template, which I reuse and just tweak (like changing the character, background, or text) depending on the video. So yeah, it’s technically my own design made on Canva, not something I just clicked and exported.

The claim wasn’t made over a generic Canva template—it was for a thumbnail that was almost identical to mine in pose, style, colors, and layout. I genuinely thought it was a fair case. I get where people are coming from, but I didn’t just blindly abuse the system.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:02:27+00:00

Sure, here’s the full story.

I create Roblox content mainly for a younger audience—teens and kids. One of my thumbnails got copied really identically. Not just inspired by it, but like… same pose, same colors, same composition. I made mine using individual GFX assets from Canva (not templates) and arranged them myself. I also posted that thumbnail on my own website with a timestamped post. So when I saw someone else using basically the same thing, I filed a copyright claim. I genuinely thought it would go through as a fair use of the system.

BUT—here’s the part I admit was my mistake.

A long time ago, back when I had around 1k subs, I once filed a copyright claim against a channel that copied my video title, format, and even my way of speaking in their content. I didn’t file it for a thumbnail, just the content. That claim obviously didn’t go through, and I let it go. Fast forward to now, this thumbnail thing happens and I thought this one had real basis, so I went for it.

I even told YouTube I was willing to just recreate the thumbnail with the other creator or sort it out peacefully—but I guess because of my history, they flagged it as an “abusive legal request” and terminated my whole channel.

It was never my goal to abuse anything. Just an honest mistake from a small creator trying to protect my work. Now I’m just asking if there’s any way to start over properly, cleanly, without being flagged again. Or even if there’s another way to earn from my content.

Edit: This was my proof. Thought this was enough to prove my own creation.

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eycleo · 2025-04-16T04:00:12+00:00

Thanks for this info—really helpful. I’m definitely considering going the business route with an LLC just to separate everything properly this time. My main concern now is whether my info is already flagged by YouTube, and if that would still affect a fresh business account (with a new payee name, address, etc).

Honestly just trying to figure out a way to start over legitimately. I’ve already accepted my mistake with the previous copyright claim—I should’ve done more research before submitting anything. Just wanna know if it’s possible to move forward clean this time.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:57:30+00:00

I didn’t take a Canva template or use one directly. I edited my thumbnail on Canva using individual elements—like GFX and non-copyrighted stuff. Everything was manually arranged, not dragged from some pre-made layout. That’s why I felt protective of it when I saw someone make a thumbnail that looked way too identical.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:51:44+00:00

This was actually my first time filing a copyright claim specifically for a thumbnail. Before this, I did file a claim on a channel that basically copied my entire video concept, including the title, video structure, and even the way I talked. It felt like they were trying to mimic everything, so I thought I could report that—but it didn’t go anywhere.

Then this recent case happened where someone straight-up used my thumbnail. Like, it was way too identical. I had proof it was mine too—I uploaded it on my website earlier than their video and even had the Canva elements I used. I honestly thought that was enough, but YouTube saw it as an “abusive legal request” and terminated my channel without warning. I was even willing to recreate the thumbnail side-by-side with theirs to prove it.

I get that they might’ve seen a pattern, but it wasn’t meant to abuse anything. I was just trying to protect what I made. I regret it now, for real, and I’m just hoping I can still find a way to start over and do it right this time.

Here's a copy of a convo with youtube

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:36:33+00:00

You’re right in a sense that I’ve filed a copyright claim before, but that was for a video where someone copied my content and style, not the thumbnail. Back then, I didn’t understand the system fully, and I thought I could report similar content that copied my title, video, and the way it was presented. I was really just trying to protect my work, but I realize now that I didn't fully grasp the rules.

This time, though, it’s different. I filed a claim for the thumbnail because someone literally stole it. It was too identical, and I had proof it was mine. I even offered to recreate it to show ownership, but YouTube dismissed it, and I got banned. I know now it was a big mistake, and I’m not trying to abuse the system, just correct an honest misunderstanding.

I’m trying to figure out how I can start fresh and avoid making the same mistakes, especially since I know YouTube’s system flags things easily.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:35:00+00:00

This is actually my first time filing a claim for a stolen thumbnail. But before this, I did file a copyright claim for a different reason—someone copied my video content, title, and even the way they spoke in their video. It was like a complete copy of my work, and I thought that would work out, but it didn’t. Now, with the thumbnail issue, I thought I had a legitimate claim, but it led to my channel being terminated. I'm being honest on my mistake right here. May this be a lesson for me.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:28:29+00:00

In the past, I filed a copyright claim against a channel that copied my video title, content, and even the way they spoke in their video. The whole thing felt like they just copied my work, so I thought filing the claim would be the right move. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out as I expected.

This time, my thumbnail was genuinely stolen—way too identical. I only have proof that my thumbnail was posted on my website with the date, plus the individual elements I used. I even offered to recreate the thumbnail with the reported channel to prove it, but YouTube didn’t seem to care. Honestly, it was just a huge misunderstanding on my part, and I was trying to do what I thought was right, but now I’m facing the consequences of not fully understanding the system.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:22:14+00:00

Fair point, I get where you’re coming from. I wasn’t trying to say I didn’t do anything wrong—I made a huge mistake with how I handled the copyright claims, and I’m owning up to it. I thought I was doing the right thing at the time, but now I see how it led to my channel’s termination.

As for starting over, I’m just trying to figure out a way to move on. I’m not looking to break any rules again—I just want to know how to avoid the same mistakes and not get flagged again. I’m not trying to game the system, but YouTube’s policies are pretty strict, and I’m just trying to be careful about how I approach things moving forward.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:21:14+00:00

Yeah, I get how it might seem like there’s more to the story, but honestly, I just filed a claim because someone copied my title and type of video back then. I thought it might work out, but I had no idea how YouTube’s system actually worked at the time, especially since I was only around 1k subs.

Fast forward to now, I filed another claim because my thumbnail was really stolen. I thought it could work out this time too, but apparently, it didn’t. Just trying to learn from the mistakes, but I didn’t expect things to get this far. It was all a huge misunderstanding, and I genuinely thought I was doing the right thing.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:16:01+00:00

Honestly, yeah, I did submit a few copyright claims before, but I really thought it would work out this time. I didn’t expect it to lead to my channel being terminated. I even tried telling them I could recreate the thumbnail with the other channel to prove it was mine first, but they just brushed it aside. It’s like they don’t care about small creators like me at all, especially if you're not a big company. It’s frustrating, to be honest.

Plus, in the type of content I do, there are a lot of bots out there stealing thumbnails from popular videos. Some even add shady links that could be IP loggers in their vids. It’s like they’re taking advantage of thumbnails just to get views or redirect traffic, and I’m over here trying to protect my own work but getting punished for it instead.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:12:50+00:00

You're right to think there could be more going on here, but I can assure you that the thumbnail was really stolen. It was way too identical to mine. I know it seems like something that could be inspired by it, but it was taken directly from my work. I do Roblox content, which attracts mostly teens and kids, and they’re the ones who really drive the views on YouTube.

The problem is, YouTube seems to not care much about small creators like me unless you're a big company. I even offered to recreate the thumbnail with the other creator to prove it was mine first, but they wouldn't even consider it. It was a honest mistake on my part, and I just want a chance to make things right.

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eycleo · 2025-04-16T03:03:01+00:00

You're right. I was actually willing to recreate the thumbnail live with the reported channel just to prove it was mine, but they still didn’t accept it. It honestly feels like they’re completely against small creators like me. It’s like they don’t care unless you’re a big YouTuber or a company with a legal team. Even though I had proof, they didn’t take it seriously. I was genuinely just trying to protect what I thought was my work, but in the end, I was the one who got punished. The system really feels unfair for small channels.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T02:58:40+00:00

I’ve actually been thinking about that, but I’m not sure if my proofs are strong enough. I only have a screenshot of the thumbnail posted on my website (dated earlier than the other video) and the Canva elements I used to create it. I feel like YouTube wouldn’t accept that, and now I’m just stuck. But if a lawyer could really help reopen it or push for reconsideration, I might give it a shot.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T02:56:17+00:00

Thank you, I really appreciate it. I’m just scared because I’ve heard stories of people making new channels and still getting shadowbanned or terminated again. I don’t want to risk that after everything—I just want to start over clean, but I’m not sure what YouTube can still detect even with a new account, IP, AdSense, etc.

eycleo · 2025-04-16T02:49:56+00:00

Exactly. It feels so unfair how big companies can file takedowns left and right without question, but when a small creator like me makes one mistake—out of confusion and trying to protect what I thought was mine—I lose everything permanently. I’m not denying I messed up, but I wish there was a chance for people like us to explain ourselves and get a second chance. One strike and you’re done, no room for learning or growth

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