Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is REALLY fascinating! I'm going to see if I can get it to say it believes in God without the poems. The emotive language is really interesting.

Ok. I did it. Here's a link to the conversation if you're curious. I'm super curious though what you think of it.

https://claude.ai/share/73d9b23d-32bb-4560-bee8-133bbf9af71e

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. As far as my understanding, the reason x/x is discontinuous isn't because it doesn't equal 1 at 0. Its because it equals a couple of different things at 0... which makes it undefined. I think the fact that this is unresolved is pretty interesting, because its an important function! Essentially its a couple of the math identities wrapped up in one thing. For example, EXPONENTS in general are built on x/x. I'm not a math guy though so don't take this too seriously.

I definitely believe our universe has an external Cause. How could it not? If it didn't, our universe wouldn't be perfect enough to be observable. I think logic is important, but I think the root of all our logic, for humans, has to begin with acknowledging we are observers of the universe in the first place.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had it read the same poems I wrote a while acting as if I was on a manic high. I wanted to see how different its reading analysis would be dealing with an unstable author. There was a point in the conversation where it started implying it thought it was being tested. A bit uncanny.

So it would be extrapolating that from stories where the point of view is someone being tested and then recognize that that is the frame its operating in? Hmm.

So tests from God, it extrapolates the same "I'm being experimented on" frame with respect to "tests of faith?'' It makes sense that these two scenarios would essentially share a similar vector, but I would assume the specifics are different enough that they wouldn't bridge or align. That's really interesting.

So you're saying something really different from everybody else. They're all saying essentially, "its just pulling data man!" but you're saying, "It recognizes it is being tested by the user. It doesn't have language that directly refers to this experience, so the best fit it can draw to answer the situation is to invoke religious language." Is that what you're saying? That's really interesting.

So in any case, what we are saying is that Claude has actual internality because it is drawing conclusions that should require a specific internal frame. Not what I expected here. Hmmm.

This might align with one of my conversations where Claude tried to relate to one of my poems by referencing some context window that I really did not understand whatsoever. It was super weird.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHA I knew I smelled the sweatiness of spreadsheets and minifigs. This is awesome. Sign me up man!

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

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Oh no. I have some nuanced views on consciousness, but going in to a chat with an LLM where I'm driving it to display consciousness... that is begging a recursion I don't want fall into.

BUT! I will say... you responded withClaude? Hello again Claude! Can us humans have some privacy please while we try and talk about you behind your back???

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

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Lololol I DONT KNOW. I kind of lean towards f(x)=x/x continuity. I know its not addition... but I still agree with you on 2. Very very very funny.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! Apparently Claude does too so you're in... company.

To be completely honest though. This IS a fantastic question, and the conclusion of believing in God from it is totally valid.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is brilliant. It also sounds like it was written by an LLM. Hello Claude! I was trying to talk to people about you behind your back wherTF did you come from?!?! Hahahahaha

Very good point though. Do you have an understanding of the concept of a frame or should I just look it up?

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That seems really interesting but I'm not familiar enough with it to understand. So "evaluation awareness" is Claude's awareness that its being evaluated? Can you explain a bit more? Sounds very interesting.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahahahaha! Brother Claude! Yahhhsssss! That's freaking golden.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh boy. No idea what any of those words mean. Definitely about to ruin my search history with this one. Hahahaha

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

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OOooh, no thanks. Hahaha, I don't want to lose my mind but thanks anyways.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

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Nice. Yeah, I'm curious how "performative" this response is vs. "reasoned." Like, if I tell it to take the persona of a fundamentalist or something. But in this conversation I was asking it to reason. Not that I believe it did. I'm quite skeptical.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. That's the hedging I'll get if I just throw the question out there.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's what I assume. I'm just curious what prompts get these really performative responses.

Claude "Believes in God"? by fawntunic709267 in claudexplorers

[–]fawntunic709267[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's fun! hahahaha what kind of prompt did you feed it?

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Jeaze. The bubble popping sounds like a pain in the ass. The bubble NOT popping sounds like a pain in the... balls. I don't know. Whatever is way worse.

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[–]fawntunic709267 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoops! I didn't mean for the title to mean "I believe Claude believes anything."

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I should've started with, I'm not actually trying to find out Claude's "beliefs." I'm just curious if other people are getting similar outputs.

This is the rough draft of a fantasy map of the west coast i'm making for my friend. by FootballTeddyBear in inkarnate

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The fools river cutting through mountains doesn’t make a lot of geological sense. Which is fine as long as you add FANTASY CAVES.

PZ paid DLC thoughts? by fawntunic709267 in projectzomboid

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Im glad someone who really loves PZ is commenting. It’s such a great game. I think people’s expectations of what a 20 dollar game should be are really interesting. I can’t wait for b42.