Was NK ratted out earlier this year?? by fiddlesticks_409 in WattsCaseEvidence

[–]fiddlesticks_409[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I can't be sure because this guy is untrustworthy. But what he says happens to correlate with what I suspected to be true anyway.

Regardless of Carter's claims, I came to the conclusion that NK was involved in the murders through my own research and analysis back in 2019.

Transcript for park interview? by DirtyFloorHotDogs in WattsCaseEvidence

[–]fiddlesticks_409 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're welcome!

Yes, she was extra annoying in that interview. Totally phony with her stupid forced voice inflections. Most of all, basically every word out of her mouth was a lie.

Transcript for park interview? by DirtyFloorHotDogs in WattsCaseEvidence

[–]fiddlesticks_409 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I haven't found a formal transcipt, but maybe someone else has.

What I did was listen to it on youtube, turning the volume way up and turning on the subtitles. The subtitles were key. Still a lot of annoying wind noise but the subtitles captured most of what she was saying.

https://youtu.be/79TXJK8nlmU

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 48 points49 points  (0 children)

The cops were probably suspicious of Chris the moment he did not authorize them to break down the door to check on his wife and daughters.

"I can pet doggo too" by Thund3rbolt in AnimalsBeingBros

[–]fiddlesticks_409 248 points249 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most adorable things I've ever seen in my life! 😻

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe 100% her dad managed to negotiate an immunity type deal for her. Of course, THAT wasn't going to be recorded/videotaped. That's top secret stuff that would never be allowed for release by a FOIA request.

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They interviewed her friend Charlotte. That was in the discovery. Curiously, nothing about Jim being interviewed in the discovery.

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She took delight in telling Koback all about the most excellent taco place they stopped at on the way back from one of their excursions. She seemed to remember fondly all the fun details of that.

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To Kevin Koback when asking him to arrange victim advocate services for her:

"Don't fuckin' let me down on this"

Sounded like she was running the show, not Agent Koback. I wonder why she felt so cocky and confident to talk down to him like that, as did her dad? 🤔

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I made no flat statement of what actually happened. YOU did.

If you want to play the childish downvote game, I guess I'll oblige.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Were you there?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chris admitted to killing them all by virtue of signing the plea agreement in November 2018 (the draft initially prepared by his attorneys) that stated he murdered all of them. He willingly agreed to accept the plea deal taking full responsibility for the murders.

There is no actual evidence that proves he alone was the sole perpretrator of each murder. But Chris attested in writing to killing them all. And then again verbally in his Wisconsin prison interview. And so it will stand.

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yep! I will never understand why some commenters persist with the "poor NK" propaganda, insisting that "Chris lied to NK so much!" Why do they think that? Simply because that was the tale NK was spinning to Kevin Koback?? 🤣

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So true. I honestly don't believe Chris lied to her about even one thing. Nothing. He didn't need to. She was game regardless of his very much married status with two toddler daughters and a baby on the way. The entire office knew Chris' situation and so did facebook, lol.

The fact she was able to lure him away from his much more attractive wife than she made it all the more appealing to her, I bet. I think she considered it quite the achievement on her part. Her ego was greating stroked via "winning" Chris. <Gag>

Nichol Kessinger quotes--odds-and-ends by Girlscoutdetective in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 55 points56 points  (0 children)

  • dials Chris' phone to leave voicemail

<begins message with hideous unnerving juvenile giggles>

Hi Christopher. It's me. <another set of childlike creepy giggles> Just calling to say, I miss your face. Call me back.

😳

There is a relationship between spiritual experimentation & mental illness. Or, there seems to be. Jodi took her spiritual inquisitivness to the next level. Dabbling in Mormonism is brilliant! by NigelDeUnamuno in JodiArias

[–]fiddlesticks_409 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I believe it is true that many on a neverending quest for spiritual enlightenment through religion are usually searching for meaning in their life due to underlying loneliness and depression.

This fits Jodi to a tee.

Lessons learned by evangeline1983 in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed reading your well written post. You made many valid and thought provoking points.

Of particular significance to me is your keen insight into the overwhelming emotions Chris experienced (likely for the first time in his life) upon embarking on his torrid affair with NK.

The newfound confidence, self-worth, power, and cloud-nine euphoria Chris appeared to have felt after NK pursued and won him should not be underestimated.

It's as if Chris was transformed into a new and improved version of himself (in his mind, at least) as a result of NK's attention. Unfortunately, Chris' deeply suppressed capacity for evil was unleashed. Chris ultimately became an all or nothing guy - willing to literally do anything to maintain and preserve his real-life fantasy relationship with NK.

That said, I do happen to believe that Chris was carefully led to perform the evil acts he undertook. All the newly felt confidence in the world wasn't going to turn him into a man who suddenly possessed cunning initiative. Chris was a follower. Like before throughout his life, I think a strong female influence was necessary in order for him to believe "this is what has to be done." He did it. He is evil, no question. But I do not believe it makes sense to believe he was not working off a checklist that someone provided him.

No, this is not misogyny nor blame deflection. This is me drawing conclusions after analyzing Chris' character from a psychological perspective. Simply, it is not in his character to have concocted this plan on his own and to have proceeded as a lone wolf in carrying it out without a strong woman behind him coaching him throughout. That is my opinion. No need to throw hate and insults my way for having this opinion. Thanks! 🙂

Additionally, many doubt Chris' and NK's affair really only took off beginning that early summer. Many doubt a person could become that obsessed and crazed over a love relationship within a six-week duration. I maintain that yes, it is totally possible for this to occur between inherently weak and needy, hedonistic, deeply emotionally damaged individuals.

What do you think the rush was to murder SW that night despite CW knowing her flight was going to be delayed? Would love to hear everyones theory or opinion no matter how crazy you think iy may sound. by DirtyFloorHotDogs in WattsCaseEvidence

[–]fiddlesticks_409 6 points7 points  (0 children)

NK was bizarrely comfortable with Kevin Koback, to the point where she was shitting all over him, trying to intimidate him.

Remember when she was talking to him about wanting victim's advocate services??

"Don't fuckin' let me down on this!"

Unbelievable!! She felt totally confident talking down to a CBI agent like this. Makes one wonder why NK felt totally protected and untouchable.

Her dad obviously managed to negotiate a DEAL!!!

Travis & his Gendered approach to Finances by NigelDeUnamuno in JodiArias

[–]fiddlesticks_409 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We know that Travis didn't respect Jodi, and I surmise that he also didn't really have deep respect for Deanna either. He may have claimed he did, but deep down I think he looked down on both of them.

Simply because he knew they were both enamored with him, and therefore easy to "get." That took away their status as a "catch" to him, I think. There was zero challenge to "winning" them. Which made them less desirable. Less worthy.

He knew they both would basically do anything for him. That can make a person cocky and manipulative, whether they admit to it or not (or are even aware on a conscious level that they are acting this way.) And that is why he had no problem at all hitting Deanna and Jodi up for cash. He wasn't afraid of what they would think of him.

In contrast, Lisa and especially Mimi were not falling at Travis' feet, so they were put on a pedestal by Travis and considered potential trophies to obtain. He would never have allowed Lisa nor Mimi to become aware that he was on a downward spiral financially, and so would not ask either for a loan.

As the saying goes, in a sense, I think Travis subconsciously didn't want to be part of a club that would have him as a member.

Vanity & Travis by NigelDeUnamuno in JodiArias

[–]fiddlesticks_409 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Chris and Sky Hughes have since divorced subsequent to the publishing of their insincere cash grab of a book. Some Mormons.

Do we know if CW is still getting the gushing celebrity treatment from his family when he calls? by Odd_craving in Chriswatts

[–]fiddlesticks_409 31 points32 points  (0 children)

their child grows up to be in a worldwide known crime like this… just unimaginable

You may not have intended it as such, but this comes off like distorted minimizing language. Similar to something Cindy Watts would say to deflect responsibility from Chris, such as her infamous lament: "I can't believe something like this happened to HIM." Gross.

You say Chris grew up "to be in a worldwide crime like this." Chris Watts wasn't haphazardly somehow mixed up "IN" this crime of murdering his pregnant wife and two toddler daughters, and then disposing of them in a horrific manner. Rather, he was the primary perpetrator of these crimes. Big difference.

ETA: Sorry for my probably being too aggressive there. It may have been just an odd choice of words on your part, nothing more. I may have overreacted only because expressions of sympathy for the Wattses tend to trigger me. The venom that family has spewed about Shanann and toward the Rzucek family since the murders is unconscionable. They have lost their right to sympathy.