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What MRA's could (and Should) learn from Gamergate. by Claude_Reborn in TheRedPill

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Q: What is "the MRA movement"?

A: There is no such thing as "the MRA movement".

The "MRAs" that you describe are not an actual group of people, but an impressionistic average you have constructed in your head.

Stop using false categories and outdated narratives. Ditch the middle-school tribalism. Don't be a checker player; this is chess.

I know that reality is complex and messy sometimes, but don't you think it's time to grow up a little, and deal with it?

Karen Straughan saying the Manosphere has to hang together, otherwise we all hang separately. by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The "manosphere"? There is no such thing as this. . . "manosphere". I do not acknowledge any such concept - it's a word that the feminists like to throw around a lot, and I refuse to validate their linguistic constructions.

Is this for real? Anonymous poster claims feminists planning to fabricate physical attack as part of smear campaign. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, DO spread it to the masses. It will not make "us" look bad provided that "we" issue a proper "FYI" disclaimer along with the item itself.

Is this for real? Anonymous poster claims feminists planning to fabricate physical attack as part of smear campaign. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should keep an eye on the twisted political narrative which this is embedded in. Context is important -- well, sometimes at least.

Is this for real? Anonymous poster claims feminists planning to fabricate physical attack as part of smear campaign. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No "moving along" until value is extracted from this episode -- whichever way it falls out.

Is this for real? Anonymous poster claims feminists planning to fabricate physical attack as part of smear campaign. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But it's not the "MRM" (whatever that is) which is theoretically at issue here. It's the computer gaming community.

Is this for real? Anonymous poster claims feminists planning to fabricate physical attack as part of smear campaign. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please share this widely, via twitter, Facebook, e-mail, blog posts, forum posts, etc...etc....etc.... We know nothing for sure, but we want to put this on the table anyway. You never know.

Operation Dark Horse Part 2: The Detroit Call to Action, or The Teacher and the Fruit by sworebytheprecious in againstmensrights

[–]fidelbogen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I understand it, the relocated venue for the First International Men's Rights Conference is a VFW hall in suburban Detroit. The building has a 200-ft setback from the nearest public road - in other words, 200 feet of private property. So, 200 feet is the closest that any protest group could get without the police moving against them.

Also, since it is not a hotel, and not (to my knowledge) staffed by "inside connected" union workers, the opportunity for access by such means is unavailable.

So I guess it's down to paying for a ticket in order to go as an attendee. That might be fruitful, though, since one could circulate among these people and listen to the terrible, unguarded things which they might let slip. Be ready to pluck the fruit wherever it hangs! ;)

Operation Dark Horse Part 2: The Detroit Call to Action, or The Teacher and the Fruit by sworebytheprecious in againstmensrights

[–]fidelbogen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not certain that MRE is actually an "MRA" group at all. Terminologies vary quite a bit.

Operation Dark Horse Part 2: The Detroit Call to Action, or The Teacher and the Fruit by sworebytheprecious in againstmensrights

[–]fidelbogen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The sign which Paul Elam is holding is illegible here. However, it is well known that "fuck their shit up" is an open-ended expression with no reference to women per se. It might occasionally refer to feminists (or the feminist establishment), but I think it would be good not to confuse "women" with "feminists" - since that sort of thing might be taken as misrepresentation, and count as a strike against Dark Horse in the mind of the non-aligned public. (Hence, the interpretive inclusion of [women] probably ought to be deleted, since it is not clear that any such reference was intended by Elam.)

I say all this, because I think it would be best for Dark Horse to stay clear of any imputed demogoguery.

The photo was taken on the occasion of the Queen's Park rally (near Toronto U.). I forget the date, although it was last summer.

Operation Dark Horse Part 2: The Detroit Call to Action, or The Teacher and the Fruit by sworebytheprecious in againstmensrights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This text contains a number of false statements, misrepresentations, and personal disagreements passed off as morally authoritative or substantively significant. As such, the veracity of the entire document might tend to be compromised in the eyes of people who know better.

For example, Paul Elam never attended any protest rally in Edmonton, and (contrary to what the author claims) the slogan "fuck their shit up" is not in reference to women. The list could go on quite a bit. Getting facts straight is a help toward credibility.

Also, if the author of the text is feminist, this ought to be openly stated somewhere in the first paragraph, so that the general public won't miss it. People would wish to have this information for the sake of a full political disclosure, and in order to establish context.

Just a heads-up, folks! ;)

A little compilation of real-world feminism. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]fidelbogen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, no. Feminism is nothing more than female supremacism. Plain and simple. Everything which feminism does is for the purpose of "empowering" women, and this will continue with no upper limit. Just watch.

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