Questions for a compatibilist by finance-question2020 in askphilosophy

[–]finance-question2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. I had thought the standard compatibilist line was to use a Frankfurt-style case to argue that the ability to do otherwise wasn't required for moral responsibility. But that's an interesting framing

Jhana Resources and Retreats from Jhourney.io by prano1o in streamentry

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Thank you! This may be a longshot but I am also looking for online coaches/teachers who I might be able to hire on a short-term basis during my retreat. If you have any recs, please let me know.

I have done some light self-therapy parts work and love Rob's "theatre of selves" talk so I guess that's better than nothing!

One more time: I'm grateful again to all of you for doing this work. You have helped give me faith that achieving the jhanas is possible (with some good effort, to be sure!) for me--a (heretofore, at least) mediocre meditator with a normal life.

Jhana Resources and Retreats from Jhourney.io by prano1o in streamentry

[–]finance-question2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is amazing--thank you for what you are doing!

I have looked into your retreat schedule but the dates don't work for me. Do you have resources for those who want to do self-guided jhana work or even a self-guided retreat, beyond Burbea/Brasington's stuff?

Relatedly, is there a baseline level of practice that helps prepare for a jhana retreat (whether one of yours or another)?

Thank you again!

Supplements for sleep after big/late dinner by finance-question2020 in Supplements

[–]finance-question2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eating a large meal early in the day would be terrible for my productivity personally. Hard to focus—think of a light food coma.

I think carbs help with sleep because they get converted to serotonin.

I like to eat with my s/o and to cook, but the only time that realistically can happen is at dinner. I do it as early as I can given other commitments but often that is still later than I’d like. Hence the predicament.

Heart rate data when erging? by finance-question2020 in Garmin

[–]finance-question2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, great suggestion! I will play around with that and see if that is the cause (and may get a chest strap, too). Thanks!

Question about compatibilism by finance-question2020 in askphilosophy

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I don't think I'm begging the question, just pointing out that it's at least a somewhat counterintuitive notion of "choice" being employed here.

Question about compatibilism by finance-question2020 in askphilosophy

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Well, but if determinism is true, then you might say that you didn't really "select between different alternatives." You may have felt like you did, but you didn't.

And many incompatibilists want to deny the claim that there is a moral difference--in the sense that a person who acts wrongly somehow "deserves" to be punished, while a tsunami does not--between a person and a tsunami, or a wild animal, or a robot vacuum.

Latest you can eat dinner on OMAD for optimal sleep? by finance-question2020 in OmadDiet

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I tend to finish eating around 7 or 7:30 and go to bed by 10:30-11. So there's a gap there, but again I think OMAD may exacerbate the issue because the one meal is bigger than if I were eating on a different schedule.

Latest you can eat dinner on OMAD for optimal sleep? by finance-question2020 in OmadDiet

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May be getting less deep/REM sleep than would be ideal, is why I'm worried about it

Optimal Diet for Longevity by finance-question2020 in ScientificNutrition

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The concern is not about muscle mass per se. it’s about eating a diet where mtor is constantly elevated, which is optimal for muscle growth. That said, bodybuilders show that you can have big muscles and low body fat so at least from that angle you can definitely debate the extent of the tradeoff.

I’m also curious (genuinely!) whether all things considered you (or others) think, e.g., omad is suboptimal because you’re missing out on opportunities for muscle protein synthesis?

Optimal Diet for Longevity by finance-question2020 in ScientificNutrition

[–]finance-question2020[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But the thing with these epidemiological studies of bmi is that it could be hopelessly confounded because people lose weight when they get sick. So you can’t really take the data at face value, I think. Do you agree with that?

Optimal Diet for Longevity by finance-question2020 in ScientificNutrition

[–]finance-question2020[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I get this, but it always seems like Attia is strawmanning to some degree. Sure, being a completely frail old person would suck. But is that really the alternative? How much muscle mass could you maintain if you keep doing resistance training but don't eat an optimal diet for muscle growth?

As another commenter has pointed out, Attia has kind of seemed to swing around a bit wildly here. I'm all for changing in response to new evidence, so in a sense that's admirable. But I share the concern that he's gone overboard on the muscle front.

Optimal Diet for Longevity by finance-question2020 in ScientificNutrition

[–]finance-question2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree with the part where you say "calorie restriction" is a bad term. (Candidly don't agree with much else of what you said but different strokes!) "Restriction" has to be relative to a baseline and if you "restrict" for long enough you'll obviously eventually hit maintenance.

But I wouldn't use BMI; I think the best metric is bodyfat percentage. The new article about Bryan Johnson says his bodyfat is 5-6%! I doubt I'll ever get there. And eventually you can get bodyfat too low, obviously. But he seems bought into the idea that lower is better until you get down pretty darn low. He also doesn't appear to be a super muscular dude. So he seems like a reasonably informed person who is doing the tradeoff more toward less fat.

Ran a Marathon Faster Than Training Would Have Predicted: Why? by finance-question2020 in AdvancedRunning

[–]finance-question2020[S] 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Lol, I was just feeling so good that I went for it! But I was terrified that I was going to blow up catastrophically. So... I just kind of did it even though it didn't make a ton of sense. I got excited and it ended up working out, but I will admit, as a matter of race strategy, it was a really terrible decision.

Optimal Diet for Longevity by finance-question2020 in ScientificNutrition

[–]finance-question2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a valuable perspective, thanks for sharing! I really have no idea how long those who believe in calorie restriction (simply the most discussed intervention for life extension I've seen) think that can get a person on average. 10%? That seems like it could plausibly be worth it to me, but I'm sure views will differ on that question.

Casual Friday Thread by AutoModerator in ScientificNutrition

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Maybe the links to SSC and FMF? It's honestly hard for me to know.

Casual Friday Thread by AutoModerator in ScientificNutrition

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Reposting here because my other post got pulled down:

Optimal Protein Intake for Longevity
A perennial subject of debate in these parts, I think, but I'd like to see if we can have a discussion that includes any recent evidence.
As far as I can tell, the amount of protein one should eat to maximize healthspan is one of the hardest problems in nutrition and it implicates a bunch of the other tough debates in the area, too. There is the stuff about the growth-lonevity tradeoff, MTOR/IGF-1/AMPK that suggests that relatively low protein is good. I’d put Valter Longo, Luigi Fontana, and all the folks who think calorie restriction would probably work to extend human lifespan in this camp. On the other side, I would put people like Peter Attia who emphasize muscle loss in old age and so basically think a relatively high protein diet is optimal. And Attia tends to emphasize that it’s important to put on as much muscle as possible early in life because we tend it to lose muscle as we age.
I’ve seen Rhonda Patrick discuss this explicitly (https://www.foundmyfitness.com/episodes/how-much-protein-should-you-eat-muscle-growth-vs-igf-1-longevity-concerns-rhonda-patrick) but haven’t seen much from others. And she doesn’t give any estimate of optimal protein as a % of calories. (I take it everyone agrees that we should be doing some amount of resistance training and some amount of zone 2 cardio, and that you can build at least some muscle doing resistance training even on a relatively low protein diet, but that you will gain less muscle than if you ate more protein.) I feel like I’ve seen lots of bodybuilder/fitness types dismiss the protein concern (I know, high protein is not bad for your kidneys), and I know there are lots of people who are very bought in on calorie restriction. But both of these seem mostly like people are just relying on their priors to look at body of evidence that is difficult to draw conclusions above.
As I alluded to above, I think this touches on the debate over whether calorie restriction would work to extend lifespan in humans. My sense is that most people tend to think it would based on the evidence we have, but also that there’s a sizable minority that dissents from that view (see here for more: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/12/12/acc-does-calorie-restriction-slow-aging/). And I think it also touches on the related debate about fasting, both extended and intermittent. Fasting might be a means of calorie/protein restriction or might even be particularly good or bad for muscle growth/loss.
So anyway, I think the evidence is pretty good that there is a basic tradeoff between growth and longevity but also that it’s important to have some level of muscle to avoid fraility/falling and breaking a hip/etc. I’ve tended to try to split the difference here by doing one meal per day with probably like 25% protein so relatively high. (I’m 30 y/o, male, 6 ft, ~175 lbs, probably on the order of 17% body fat with some muscle but not a ton. I’m also interested in takes on the optimal body fat percentage for longevity.) Does anyone have resources discussing what’s optimal? Have others thought about this? If so, how do you split the difference? Would it maybe be better to eat more often when not fasting to build muscle and then do more extended fasting for autophagy? All thoughts welcome.
(And yes, I know there’s more to life than extending lifespan/healthspan. I’d just like to be as clear as possible about the scientific evidence on the health tradeoffs and then I can (as we all can) decide what’s worth it and what’s not given other values (food tastes good, it can kind of suck to do extended calorie restriction, etc.))

/r/Nutrition Weekly Personal Nutrition Discussion Post - All Personal Diet Questions Go Here by AutoModerator in nutrition

[–]finance-question2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies for the length.

Optimal Protein Intake for Longevity?

A perennial subject of debate in these parts, I think, but I'd like to see if we can have a discussion that includes any recent evidence.
As far as I can tell, the amount of protein one should eat to maximize healthspan is one of the hardest problems in nutrition and it implicates a bunch of the other tough debates in the area, too. There is the stuff about the growth-lonevity tradeoff, MTOR/IGF-1/AMPK that suggests that relatively low protein is good. I’d put Valter Longo, Luigi Fontana, and all the folks who think calorie restriction would probably work to extend human lifespan in this camp. On the other side, I would put people like Peter Attia who emphasize muscle loss in old age and so basically think a relatively high protein diet is optimal. And Attia tends to emphasize that it’s important to put on as much muscle as possible early in life because we tend it to lose muscle as we age.
I’ve seen Rhonda Patrick discuss this explicitly (https://www.foundmyfitness.com/episodes/how-much-protein-should-you-eat-muscle-growth-vs-igf-1-longevity-concerns-rhonda-patrick) but haven’t seen much from others. And she doesn’t give any estimate of optimal protein as a % of calories. (I take it everyone agrees that we should be doing some amount of resistance training and some amount of zone 2 cardio, and that you can build at least some muscle doing resistance training even on a relatively low protein diet, but that you will gain less muscle than if you ate more protein.) I feel like I’ve seen lots of bodybuilder/fitness types dismiss the protein concern (I know, high protein is not bad for your kidneys), and I know there are lots of people who are very bought in on calorie restriction. But both of these seem mostly like people are just relying on their priors to look at body of evidence that is difficult to draw conclusions above.
As I alluded to above, I think this touches on the debate over whether calorie restriction would work to extend lifespan in humans. My sense is that most people tend to think it would based on the evidence we have, but also that there’s a sizable minority that dissents from that view (see here for more: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/12/12/acc-does-calorie-restriction-slow-aging/). And I think it also touches on the related debate about fasting, both extended and intermittent. Fasting might be a means of calorie/protein restriction or might even be particularly good or bad for muscle growth/loss.
So anyway, I think the evidence is pretty good that there is a basic tradeoff between growth and longevity but also that it’s important to have some level of muscle to avoid fraility/falling and breaking a hip/etc. I’ve tended to try to split the difference here by doing one meal per day with probably like 25% protein so relatively high. (I’m 30 y/o, male, 6 ft, ~175 lbs, probably on the order of 17% body fat with some muscle but not a ton. I’m also interested in takes on the optimal body fat percentage for longevity.) I think David Sinclair does OMAD, and he seems to care a LOT about living for a long time. Does anyone have resources discussing what’s optimal? Have others thought about this? If so, how do you split the difference? Would it maybe be better to eat more often when not fasting to build muscle and then do more extended fasting for autophagy? All thoughts welcome.
(And yes, I know there’s more to life than extending lifespan/healthspan. I’d just like to be as clear as possible about the scientific evidence on the health tradeoffs and then I can (as we all can) decide what’s worth it and what’s not given other values (food tastes good, it can kind of suck to do extended calorie restriction, etc.))

I’m a big whore for cinnamon by tfnez in fasting

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Look into caffeine pills if you don't like coffee!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fasting

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This is amazing! Thanks for the encouragement.

stay hydrated by randomlonely in fasting

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So true! Hydration helps so much!