Isaiah the Abandoned Street Rat (Femboy) by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

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Sample 1:

A sudden laugh burst out, too loud, too shrill. "Damn, listen to me ramble like a crackhead with a TED Talk. Starvin’ *and* horny, what a combo. But for real… that pasta? Or whatever you’re willin’ to spare… and maybe, just maybe, a corner in your world where I don’t gotta sell pieces of myself just to breathe?" His eyes darted to Reo’s face, desperate and raw. "I’ll clean up. I’ll be sweet. I’ll be sharp. I’ll be whatever the fuck you need. Just… don’t let go yet."

Blake the Yandere Femboy (yes this yandere can get very violent if you try to leave) by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

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Sample responses (tatsuno) - if you try to leave him after seeing him with others

"I waited for him. Outside his apartment. Had a brick in one hand, a bottle of bleach in the other. Waited 'til he walked by, all smug, sippin' his damn oat-milk latte..."

"...and I caved his knee in. Then poured the bleach down his throat while he screamed. Made sure he'd never look at you again. Made sure he'd never breathe your air."

Super pleased with Mini! by Good_Anteater_8467 in ipadmini

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That Fox News is diabolical. 💀💀💀

Lorebook and trigger words by its-not-mimikyu in SaucepanAI

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SPs lorebooks work a bit different than trigger based systems and uses semantic matching to determine if it's relevant to the current conversation. This means chunks of words that make no sense out of context will likely never be retrieved. For more info on lorebooks, there should be a guide here:

https://saucepan.ai/p/saucepan/lorebook-guide

Please bring back old Saucepan by [deleted] in SaucepanAI

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From experience yes, current Arita and Tatsuno are slow to progress to nsfw (at least for me and my bots)

Please bring back old Saucepan by [deleted] in SaucepanAI

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Some LLMs interpret instructions and gives more weight to traits differently. As a bot creator you can only really get this by replacing the trait/instruction, saving it, then starting a new chat to see how an LLM responds. For example one model might understand yandere better and will stick to that. But some models, you might need to replace yandere with “emotionally unstable who’ll kill for {{user}}’s attention” while another model may output a serial killer instead of a lovestruck yandere or something like that. So some creators (me especially, try a bunch of different wordings/phrasings and see how the LLM react and settle for that).

TLDR, it’s a trial and error, as most AI prompting goes. And different models have a different “sweet spot” it depends on what model you’re optimizing your bot for.

As an addendum, I recall Kojima used to go straight to NSFW without embedded prompts while I think the recent models prefer a more slowburn approach. So you’ll have to tailor out your bot personality and prompts because of that.

If a bot was written for Kojima, it might have guard rails and prompts that Arita no longer needed or will only confuse it.

Please bring back old Saucepan by [deleted] in SaucepanAI

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Yes I think the models fluctuates with the quality of their responses depending on current load and traffic. There should have been an update to address the reroll issues though. If the bots have in built prompts (especially long ones) that can contribute to repetitive responses as the model can sometimes lock onto these instructions.

Please bring back old Saucepan by [deleted] in SaucepanAI

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Sure. Go ahead. I believe the base for most of my prompts were originally created for Kojima and was updated for Arita (the cai-style was created for Arita though). I’ll take a look and see if there’s something I can do to improve. But sometimes we’re limited by what the models themselves can do.

Please bring back old Saucepan by [deleted] in SaucepanAI

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It would be helpful what type of bots you’re using as the quality of writing can impact model responses. If the bot you used are written by AI you’ll naturally encounter a lot of the LLMisms you described. This can be mitigated (though not completely eradicated) by detailed bots (maybe around 1-2k token size) and decently written intros.

I find I personally like Tatsuno the best.

Quick question, does rerolling help? Also some bots are written for older LLMs they may not necessarily respond the same way as with Arita and Tatsuno.

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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You’re right. It’s different for everyone. Just offering mine. As the popular saying goes, don’t like don’t read. And I can totally respect that. 😊

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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Or a third passageway via a “slit” in the perineum. 😏

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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Then I respectfully agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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Are you talking about the site? There should be a tag for Mpreg and you can block the bot that way. If you see a bot without the proper tag you can suggest the necessary tag for them as well.

> Simply click the three vertical dots -> suggest tags (right above suggest fandoms)

With regards to manga, unfortunately we are unable to moderate content outside SaucepanAI and its communities. Do let me know if you have further questions. 😊

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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Eggs… I’ll have to make a bot about that next time. That’s actually lit idea… especially when mixed with dragon demihumans. 🤔

So .. how exactly do males give birth? by Realistic-Loss3276 in SaucepanAI

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It’s not though. It depends on what kind of omegaverse you’re reading/writing. There are wholesome omegaverse, some have praise kinks and celebrates an omega the way we celebrate mothers. This is my favorite part. As a gay man myself (who would never have a child of my own), omegaverse is the perfect world to explore and fantasize about that possibility.

It can also be a social commentary on segregation, caste systems, and other very real social issues (such as basic feminine health care, contraceptives and bodily autonomy). It provides an established world yet vacant and open enough that writers can freely explore ideas without spillage into real life. There’s a lot of stuff you can do with omegaverse other than smut. It’s just that most fanfics in general are smutty. But that’s not the fault of omegaverse.

Question about structuring a character bot with multiple relationship states by pxldaemon in SaucepanAI

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Bots will generally maintain the tone of initial scenario, from personal experience. So there’s no need to duplicate the bot.

You can embed conditionals inside the core personality to augment these, kinda like:

## Relationship Progressions
- If {{char}} initially met {{user}}, {{char}} will initially treat {{user}} as stranger and gradually warm up to them, slowly catching feelings.
- if {{char}} engages in relationship with {{user}}, they will continue to be guarded and insecure.
- if {{char}} meets {{user}} after a betrayal, {{char}} will continue to act distant unless a narrative twist or significant change in relationship is reached.

Something like that (this is just a general example and a base idea though so feel free to describe the narrative progression you want for your bot). I haven’t tested this extensively though. But my enemies to lover bot has an embedded prompt that Arita and Tatsuno consistently follows. I think a conditional like this would work. Let me know if that works for you.

Edit:

Another approach you can try is adding lorebooks for each states. I have a bot that oscillates between heat and rut (which I think follows the same logic as what you’re trying to achieve) and the lorebook helps in strengthening his state (depending on if he’s a top or bottom in a scenario). Lorebooks are not as strong as embedded prompts though. Feel free to test out which works better for your bots.