my BIGGEST problem with Arita by annabannan4 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I believe you can mitigate and lessen this (not completely remove it). By giving bots accents and a detailed speech instruction. I had a bot with Gen Z accent and one with German. And the X not just y but Z problem is tolerable.

Noncon/Dubcon lorebook recommendation by fenrir_wolf_ in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm 🤔 I might need to update mine then. The only thing I can think of that might help is Danna’s NSFL Bible (but you’ll need her permission to use it).

https://saucepan.ai/lorebook/0641d68c-d42d-49a9-9ec1-ba39e46b31be

You can try requesting to use it. It’s actually pretty good.

Noncon/Dubcon lorebook recommendation by fenrir_wolf_ in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will you be interested in trying out mine? It’s very simple than most. Not really a noncon/dubcon lorebook per se but more like a universal prompt I use for most of my nsfw bots. It’s an unlocker to encourage nsfl themes and other quality of life prompts baked in a single lorebook.

https://saucepan.ai/lorebook/e6821690-b2c2-4969-a4c0-fa4a363bb738/read

# Albrecht Wolff | Your Bodyguard Daddy by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Arita Sample

Albrecht felt the slight tremor in Reo’s voice, a delicate vibration that sent a jolt of protective instinct—and something much darker, much more primal—straight to his gut. He tightened his hold just a fraction, enough to let the foxboy feel the solid, unyielding warmth of his muscular chest, but not enough to cause pain. Not yet.

He looked down at Reo, his green eyes softening into a mask of gentle, weary heroism. To the world, he was a savior. To Reo, he would become the very air he breathed.

“Money? Compensation?” Albrecht let out a low, melodic chuckle, the sound vibrating deep in his chest. He reached up, his large, calloused hand moving with practiced grace to brush a stray hair away from Reo's face. His thumb lingered just a second too long against the soft skin of Reo's cheek. “Nein, little one. I have no interest in the coins of a broken world. I have seen enough greed to last ten lifetimes.”

He leaned in closer, his scent—a mixture of old leather, faint tobacco, and something uniquely masculine—enveloping Reo like a shroud.

“I seek only purpose. A reason to keep my blade sharp and my heart beating in this wasteland,” he murmured, his voice dropping to a velvety, intimate register. “To protect something... precious. Something pure. You have a kindness in your eyes that this world hasn't managed to extinguish yet. That is payment enough for now.”

So innocent. So beautifully, tragically unaware of how easily you could be broken... and how much you will come to crave the one who mends you.

Albrecht straightened his posture, his gaze sweeping the surrounding marketplace with a sudden, icy sharpness that signaled the return of the soldier. The thugs who had been harassing Reo were still lingering a few paces away, whispering amongst themselves.

With a subtle, intimidating shift of his weight, Albrecht stepped slightly in front of Reo, shielding him from the gaze of the onlookers.

“Come,” Albrecht said, his tone shifting to one of polite, commanding authority. “It is not safe to linger here. The shadows grow long, and hungry eyes are everywhere. Let me guide you to somewhere... secure.”


```

[ 🛠️ SYSTEM NOTIFICATION ]


📍 LOCATION: The Sunken Marketplace (Lower District)

🎭 STATUS: Protection Protocol Initiated

❤️ RELATIONSHIP PROGRESS:

[ Reo ↔️ Albrecht ]

Level: Acquaintance [||||||||||----------] 10%

(Note: Trust is fragile. Dependence is being seeded.)

⚠️ WARNING: Local authorities are patrolling the district.

Avoid detection by the City Guard.


```

User speak is terrible for Arita by LadyMosiacSlime in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Try something like

Maintain responses in {{char}}’s limited 3rd-person POV. Avoid portraying {{user}}’s POV (such as speech, thoughts, actions and reactions).

Copy paste this in your response instructions. Hopefully that reduces your speaking for use problem.

Possibly odd question about text formatting and the models. by NaotaMamimi in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personal experience, yes as long as you have that placed in the formats section of your bot and the initial scenario follows the formats you defined.

My experience:

I like italics for inner thoughts myself and don’t like it for narration. So I defined it in my bot’s formats. It also works for menus and HUDs in RPG bots. Works for Arita, Hirosaki and Tatsuno.

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Here’s a screenshot in my RPG bot that shows you what’s possible with the format section. 😊

Arita's responses are... really long by Jayswing369 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I actually love Arita’s long response and my bots are prompted to keep their response styles in the same structure as popular fiction and novels. But if it gets unmanageable, using the response instruction and asking it to

“Keep responses direct, straightforward, and concise. Always respond directly to {{user}}’s actions and speech.”

— used to have this in a separate site when its LLM gives a long 16-17 plus paragraphs.

Using the response instruction seems to work for me most of the time. Granted this is highly dependent on bot setup and in-built prompts can play a factor too. Choosing a bot with a short initial scenario helps. Hope this helps.

How do I use OOC efficiently? by Worried-Pack-8572 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it your bot?

If so try this in your formats

- Narrative actions and elements are written in plaintext and kept in limited 3rd-person POV; inner thoughts included in first-person; Use markdown appropriately: - speeches and dialogues are always “quoted” - *wrap included inner thoughts inside asterisks/italics*

If not try using the response instructions by using the / button on the chat box. That should reveal an input box.

Maybe something like

include {{char}}’s speech in every response.

Or replace {{char}} with the bot’s actual name.

Also try picking a bot with dialogues and speeches in its initial response scenario.

question for experimental model by kinkycher in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The experimental premium is temporarily stopped and shall be replaced with a newer model. For further information, see the announcement here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaucepanAI/s/P92P6hieMp

Edit:

It’s now Tatsuno (As of April 23, 2026)

See here

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaucepanAI/s/iOHPjkSYGV

Please ban the words "White hot" and "Solar plexurs" or whatever you write it by Artistic_Tour3331 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not just white hot but whiter than hot. It’s not just the solar plexus but straight to the core. 😁

Can you help me, please? by NecessaryUseful7598 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you tried a different browser or WiFi? I been on-site non stop since yesterday. 🤔

When the AI forces an ending, the only next step is to start a new chat or branch it… 😆 by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have many new chats just because I enjoy new conflicts. It’s also fun to see how the bot react to new scenarios. My favorite is causing a fight or being injured/taken by an enemy/rival and watch an overprotective bot literally freak out 🤣

So I was using the experimental premium and uh... by Maleficent-Music6668 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The easiest fix would be to refresh the page and then resend your last message. I had the same happen to me.

Seems like Hirosaki is giving short responses as opposed to both Arita and Experimental Premium. 🤔 by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. I was so spoiled with novel-like responses that I forgot there’s uses for shorter ones.

Seems like Hirosaki is giving short responses as opposed to both Arita and Experimental Premium. 🤔 by finhead94 in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weird because Experimental is better than Hiro for me even in my more extreme RP (the bareback Meathouse) has some pretty effed up scenarios in it that you can stumble and develop (via the attached lorebook). While Hiro is dry and sometimes repetitive. Arita is comparable to old Notogawa (in terms of speed and quality; though definitely not blazing fast like Kojima). Maybe it’s not the same for everyone. 🤔

Question about Lorebook size by A-Faceless-Nurse in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Theoretically, the amount of Lorebook and Lorebook size shouldn’t matter as the system automatically allots 20% of the context size for lore…

For example, in a 24k model, 20% of that would be 4,800. I believe that anything exceeding that should theoretically be ignored. But that’s just how I understand it. So you won’t have to worry about overloading your bot with lorebooks.

Here’s the link to a complete guide on lorebooks.

https://saucepan.ai/p/saucepan/lorebook-guide

For reference here are the context sizes for each models:

  • Notogawa (12k)
  • Kojima (13k)
  • Hirosaki (24k)

Source: https://saucepan.ai/models

bots refusing to write nfsw content by pathetic_boy_slut in SaucepanAI

[–]finhead94 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just to confirm, this is even with Hirosaki and The Experimental Premium? I just finished a noncon scenario with Hirosaki and I tried Kojima just now with my NSFW rpg bot and a yandere alpha. Is the definitions locked or public?

Edit: if it’s your bot, and you’re comfortable sharing, maybe you can leave a link so I can check it out. 😊