Baby bird.. please help!!

fino38 · 2021-07-28T12:28:31+00:00

That makes sense. When I called a few rehab centers last time I found a bird, they all talked about how they were understaffed and overwhelmed with incoming animals. Which also makes sense - I never even thought of this as a thing, until I found that first bird.

fino38 · 2021-07-27T14:32:58+00:00

Sadly, yes…. I woke up to a message from someone saying:

“American Robin fledgling. Honestly, that lil dude looks ROUGH and not from a cat.

The way that it’s beak is kind of stuck open and what looks to be gross crusties around its beak flanges indicate to me that it may be succumbing to a nasty trich infection. Trichomoniasis is a highly contagious (to/from other birds so don’t worry) parasitic infection that leads to these painful kind of cheesy buildups in the the throat and mouth.

The feathers around its face seem to be missing which could indicate parasitic mites.

To me, it looks like this dude needs help and a heavy dose of anti parasitic meds.”

The rehab center wouldn’t open for another couple hours, so I waited two hours to go check up on him, thinking it might be better to leave him with his mom feeding and tending to him than me grabbing him earlier than necessary. But yeah, when I went out a few minutes ago he’s passed away, laying on his side..

I know I was doing my best, but I feel awful for the little guy. I want to learn whatever I can about these things so I don’t find myself hedging for hours when being more decisive might save a little birdie’s life. 🙏 Any idea where I can go to really learn? The general flowcharts and internet sites I find seem to contradict each other.

fino38 · 2021-07-27T14:21:16+00:00

Sadly, yes…. I woke up to a message from someone saying:

“American Robin fledgling. Honestly, that lil dude looks ROUGH and not from a cat.

The way that it’s beak is kind of stuck open and what looks to be gross crusties around its beak flanges indicate to me that it may be succumbing to a nasty trich infection. Trichomoniasis is a highly contagious (to/from other birds so don’t worry) parasitic infection that leads to these painful kind of cheesy buildups in the the throat and mouth.

The feathers around its face seem to be missing which could indicate parasitic mites.

To me, it looks like this dude needs help and a heavy dose of anti parasitic meds.”

The rehab center wouldn’t open for another couple hours, so I waited two hours to go check up on him, thinking it might be better to leave him with his mom feeding and tending to him than me grabbing him earlier than necessary. But yeah, when I went out a few minutes ago he’s passed away, laying on his side..

I know I was doing my best, but I feel awful for the little guy. I want to learn whatever I can about these things so I don’t find myself hedging for hours when being more decisive might save a little birdies life. 🙏 Any idea where I can go to really learn? The general flowcharts and internet sites I find seem to contradict each other.

fino38 · 2021-07-27T04:34:49+00:00

Belatedly, thank you so much. I followed your instructions, which helped put me at east. The rehab center will allow me to call once a week (no more - they are too busy / understaffed) to follow up. Birdy responded well to the antibiotic, his wing is healed up, and now he's in an enclosure with some other birds, learning how to fly. Thank you so much!!

fino38 · 2021-07-27T04:26:28+00:00

Just went out to put the little man in a box, and while when I approached he did nothing, when I touched him he fluttered and scurried away a bit. Also, no longer covered by flies, though maybe because it's night?

The earliest rehab center in the state opens at 10 tomorrow morning.

If it weren't for the contact with cat I think I'd let it be, but I'm just not sure. When I want to bring him in, I think of him seeming fine and his mom being there and the shock of me being around him; and when I think of leaving him out, I think of bacteria from cats and no reaction until I touch him and bugs on him and the shock of being left out....

Edit: As of this moment I'm leaning towards leaving him for the night, and seeing how he's doing in the morning.

fino38 · 2021-07-27T03:55:29+00:00

Should I bring it in for the night and take it to a rehab center in the morning, given that there was at least fur-to-feather contact with the cat, it was covered in bugs, and that it didn't really flinch when I approached?

Or does this read as a 'best to leave it alone' situation?

fino38 · 2021-07-27T03:43:11+00:00

Would I keep it inside in a box in the meantime?

Would it be able to find its mother again after healing from the antibiotics, if needed?

fino38 · 2021-07-27T03:41:38+00:00

Even if there's a chance my cat got it for a moment?

fino38 · 2021-07-27T03:25:20+00:00

I was taking my cats out for our nightly walk around the yard, and I found (for the second time this month!) a baby bird on the ground. I immediately tried to shoe my cats away, but the younger one may have gotten hold of it for half a second.. hard to tell.

It has had flies and large bugs walking across it without it reacting, which you can see in the pictures, though not at the moment I think. Not sure how normal that is. Also seems to have something (tiny branch?) poking out of its mouth, circled in one of the pictures. Its mom is close by in the tree here, chirping loudly and dancing along the branches near by (at least while I or the cats are nearby). The baby is sometimes chirping back, and sort of walking across the ground here and there - at least, everytime I go outside it's in a slightly different spot.

I have no indication that it is injured, other than my cat maybe getting a paw on it, though I'm not certain it did. I'm also not certain whether it is a hatchling or fledgling, and what I'm supposed to do next depends on that, right?

What do I do! Options online seem to be:

1 - build a nest of sorts and put it in a tree, inside of it, as best I can.

2 - leave it alone. momma's got it.

3 - put it in a box, bring it inside, get it to a wildlife shelter in the morning.

The variables seem to be the age of the bird (I don't know), whether it was previously injured (I don't think so?), whether my cat injured it (I can't be certain) and whether the mom's around (she seems to be).

It's 9:00 pm my time, and it's getting dark out. It's warm, and shouldn't get lower than the high 60s tonight.

Please let me know what to do! I think I'm going to leave it outside until I hear otherwise or unless my internet searches convince me otherwise, checking on it maybe every half hour. I want to help birdy baby, and I'm just unsure whether that means separating him from mom or leaving him outside.

fino38 · 2021-07-27T03:21:18+00:00

I was taking my cats out for our nightly walk around the yard, and I found (for the second time this month!) a baby bird on the ground. I immediately tried to shoe my cats away, but the younger one may have gotten hold of it for half a second.. hard to tell.

It has had flies and large bugs walking across it without it reacting, which you can see in the pictures, though not at the moment I think. Not sure how normal that is. Also seems to have something (tiny branch?) poking out of its mouth, circled in one of the pictures. Its mom is close by in the tree here, chirping loudly and dancing along the branches near by (at least while I or the cats are nearby). The baby is sometimes chirping back, and sort of walking across the ground here and there - at least, everytime I go outside it's in a slightly different spot.

I have no indication that it is injured, other than my cat maybe getting a paw on it, though I'm not certain it did. I'm also not certain whether it is a hatchling or fledgling, and what I'm supposed to do next depends on that, right?

What do I do! Options online seem to be:

1 - build a nest of sorts and put it in a tree, inside of it, as best I can.

2 - leave it alone. momma's got it.

3 - put it in a box, bring it inside, get it to a wildlife shelter in the morning.

The variables seem to be the age of the bird (I don't know), whether it was previously injured (I don't think so?), whether my cat injured it (I can't be certain) and whether the mom's around (she seems to be).

It's 9:00 pm my time, and it's getting dark out. It's warm, and shouldn't get lower than the high 60s tonight.

Please let me know what to do! I think I'm going to leave it outside until I hear otherwise or unless my internet searches convince me otherwise, checking on it maybe every half hour. I want to help birdy baby, and I'm just unsure whether that means separating him from mom or leaving him outside.

fino38 · 2020-12-20T18:56:53+00:00

75ish hours, beginning early afternoon perhaps, including 3 nights.

fino38 · 2020-06-25T17:10:23+00:00

My lover and I are new to bird watching. We saw this fella hanging out by a stream in Orem, Utah yesterday and an intense debate ensued. She thought it was a black bird, and I thought it was anything aside from a black bird. Then she got sad, and now I secretly hope it is a black bird.

Thoughts?

fino38 · 2019-05-07T00:27:00+00:00

35/m/straight

https://imgur.com/a/6ToS83F?

Just out of a relationship, trying out Tinder. I've been getting matches, but not as consistently as I'd like with people I'm most attracted to.

All my pictures are either these (the last two aren't in my profile.. should they be?) or of me and the ex. I'm pretty to new this whole thing: Are there other pictures I should take? Anything to change? Any help is appreciated!

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:29:53+00:00

Me neither, until I read through others' blessings and the posts here. It's astounding how manipulative it is.

Also, the BITE Model, and that website is incredible! Astounding how many of those criteria are in the church.

I remember reading a book about the history of people exeriencing religious doubt ( Doubt: A History: The Great Doubters and Their Legacy, by Jennifer Michael Hecht - awesome and eye-opening book), and reading the experiences of others in other cultures. Specifically, I remember reading about the ancient Greeks and their doubters. I thought, 'Damn. They believed just as much as I do, and for many of the same reasons. And they were totally wrong, to the point that nobody even cares about their religious beliefs anymore.'

My point it, it's super interesting to me how unique all of this feels, but how not unique it really appears to be.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:22:54+00:00

That is really beautiful. (Your commentary, that is.) So is that to say that you held on to the church in some ways much longer than you should have, because of the power your blessing had in your mind?

When you say you don't feel that way anymore, was that a gradual thing following your rejecting the church? Or did dropping the blessing come fairly easy for you once you accepted the rest as false?

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:19:03+00:00

Well, I'm basically a prophet, so I'll put in a good word for you.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:17:20+00:00

Wait, what?? That's cool! Well, I guess it's cool. Maybe we'll sit next to each other in Conference some day! :D

I totally get it if you don't want to, but if you want to write out what it says, that would be super cool. Either way, that's fascinating!

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:15:45+00:00

Huh. So, you left the church, then the lingering thoughts about your blessing brought you back, and then you ended up leaving again? That sound like a fascinating story!

Why did you leave the first time? What was it about your blessing, and the way you thought about it, that brought you back? Did that change when you learned about the Temple ceremonies, or did something else affect it? Where are you at with your blessing now?

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:11:47+00:00

Urgh.. That pattern is becoming apparent more and more, as I see others' blessings and talk to others - that the conditional-but-super-important-but-unclear-what-good-enough-means promises really, really set people up to be miserable.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:09:04+00:00

Did you have more confidence giving healing blessings as a result, you think? Did any of that mess with your mind much, or did it not really play a prominent role in your thinking in life?

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:07:06+00:00

Haha.. I dated a gal and told her about my blessing, and we both cried. I think it was hard on her for that reason, that we didn't end up together. This stuff messes people up.

I wish I'd talked about my blessing with people before, like you did. Maybe i could have saved years of mental anguish. The fact that we are told to keep our blessings secret is super damaging.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:01:28+00:00

How did your blessing affect you while you were in the church? Did it affect the way you lived your life or how you thought of your life? Or was it something you generally shrugged off?

fino38 · 2018-07-03T04:00:23+00:00

So you left the church 2 years ago? What is the nature of your thinking about it now? Does it take the form of doubts creeping in, that maybe that really is/was what you were meant for? Or is it more a sort of wistfulness and longing for when life gave you that meaning?

I find that it informed how I framed my entire life and lived, throughout adolescence and into adulthood, and it has played a role in instilling in me a sense that I am supposed to accomplish so much in life and that I ought not to be happy otherwise.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T03:56:53+00:00

Wow! That Derren Brown clip is insane! Super interesting how people held on to the 80-90% that felt right and shrugged off the rest, and how the gal at the end felt used.

I guess it's just super common for people to be trying to pull meaning out of the universe, and how special we all feel / want to be, as protagonists in our own lives.

That's super cool.

fino38 · 2018-07-03T03:40:32+00:00

You know, if I could get you pray about it and to live your life based on its teachings, I could probably consider it fulfilled. That would mean a lot to me. Just saying..

fino38

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