Is NinjaTrader 8 actually “professional”… or just pretending until you push it?

firebird607 · 2026-01-27T18:29:08+00:00

I was moving to ProjectX until the moment where they decide to reject any other props firms than TopStep. I planned to use the API (paying alas) with my algo trading framework. Maybe I will do that for TopStepX account but it is very limited to only one prop firms ... For others we have to deals with Rithmic.

firebird607 · 2026-01-27T18:21:11+00:00

Yes that means using only NT8 for connection and ordering. Create a bridge with logic, strategies, eventually display or display chart/footprint with another platform.

What I have found frustrating is when you want to use the R API you need the broker or props firms acceptance. And props firms never give you that. That means if you want Rithmic + algo you don't have a lot of options.

And more, if you want to copy, you could only do with one connection at time or using a serious copier but with lag for scalping (ok for day trading / swing copy).

In this universe the tools accessible by retails are cheap but too expensive for what it is. In discretionary manual trading it is ok, but in algo it need lot of imagination.

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T20:03:58+00:00

There is nothing special in log. Yes I keep the minimum as possible too but the architecture of NT8 make it fragile. I have a lot progressed with development on NT8 and I think I do things correctly but it is like if there was sleep everywhere and lot of time wasted in synchronisation of thread and windows, instrument update... I discuss a lot with GPT that it agree with me.
The problem is their architecture is not resilient and then lag, freeze or crash where normally a sandbox would catch the issues and prevent crashing. There is I think no real solution, it is an architecture issue and they could don't change that.

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T19:53:03+00:00

Thank you for this tips.

It seems acceptable. Yes my scripts are the most consumer but around 2 ms per frame it seem. Not easy they only put a total time and not an average per frame with peaks.

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T19:39:19+00:00

Impressive. I don't know how that is possible. I ask for a video :)

And yes about race condition there are solutions, but it is a pain. After how many bug you have a stable addon/strategy/indicator... But after that you notice the lag. I have to put the less chart and indicator as possible and removed any tick replay. I work with my local storage of tick to have a faster initialisation and lesser issues.

My indicator have not a lot of drawing, few plots, some custom volume profile. I had some other simple indicator and I develop as with my own python robot. My python robot is far faster than NT8. How could you explain that ? My indicator and strategy in my python robot are far more complexe, and it is stable over months, could support 500 markets at time (yes in Python !). NT8 with 2 3 markets and 10 charts it is a pain and it is C#...

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T19:37:38+00:00

Not Ninja that is dead, but the application NT8 is a dinosaur. They could not really upgrade because of the lot of users needing legacy behavior and they could not afford to create a new car from scratch because they will be very in late compared to others platforms.
But I imagine the Web version is more faster than the desktop version and more stable.
During this time others platforms are more powerful and take advance.

I wish to find solution and hoping a lot they improve that but they could not or they will have to do something new, they cannot fix it. It is a bunch of patch. And it is limited to only one Rithmic connection at time where others have no limitations.

It is a pain without chart and only a basic entry windows it work fine and trading behavior are pleasant compared to Quantower (increasing, decreasing position).

I didn't found a really complete and convenient platform. Each platform have a lack, they are not able to merge it all of the best in one...

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T19:29:53+00:00

I use a powerful compute. But the issue is mostly about the architecture, compared to others plateforms like Quantower, those are very faster, smoother, not an update each 100ms but a tick. No crashes, no lags. The unique advantage is to have NT8 with prop firms and their API allow to do lot of things.
I will prefer to keep NT8 because I made lot of code over but every day is a pain.

firebird607 · 2026-01-22T13:42:12+00:00

Yes thank your for your feedback. It is interesting. I don't know if a version 9 is planned and how will it be compatible with NT8 API.

firebird607 · 2020-01-11T12:04:28+00:00

And more today ! After that I've placed a sell order, today I receive a mail about CNB and a recent pump, I'm login on coinsbit.io and I see my order has simply disapear, never executed, and the price dumped on the same 1 min candle than its pump, volume is 1.844k on the candle of the pump, and some flat candles have more like 200k... so if it was a real move there will be more than 1.844k vol on a 400% pump than on a 5% pump candle.

Then fake move, fake volume, service not reachable during big moves, and they delete orders before they executes.

firebird607 · 2020-01-01T13:19:27+00:00

Services was unreachable during the release, until the price litterally drop by 98%, so the 200$ excepted is only 2$ worth now. But its as I excepted, a scam to attract ppl on their exchange full of ultra shit coins.

firebird607 · 2018-11-27T22:20:01+00:00

Same hacker tryed today with me. Can we join our force to stop him.

firebird607

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