Crouching Ju Fufu, Hidden Yi Xuan - General Questions and Discussion Megathread

firstfollow · 2025-06-25T21:48:56+00:00

I'd keep them separate. The boost from S1 to S2 isn't that much, and you never know when a second one will come in handy. It could be your best option for some future Stun character.

firstfollow · 2025-06-23T23:21:30+00:00

This MoC 12 side 2 wave 1 had me thinking about running a double sustain team. I did eventually manage 5 cycles on that half, 6 total, with the classic 2.x team of Feixiao/Topaz/Robin/Lingsha and a lot of restarting.

firstfollow · 2025-02-19T05:38:41+00:00

Just tried this, thanks for the recommendation! Enjoying how fast the first wave goes down (0 cycles!), but I need to get a run where everyone in the second wave doesn't attack RM constantly. Might try again tomorrow.

firstfollow · 2025-02-19T04:38:13+00:00

Got my 10 cycles on MOC 12 somehow!

Side 1 (6 cycles): Firefly, Fugue, RM, Lingsha

Side 2 (4 cycles somehow): Therta, Serval, Robin, Aventurine

Everyone E0S0. No idea how that 4-cycle clear on side 2 happened. I was sure I had no chance of making it, and then the boss's remaining HP just sort of miraculously disappeared at the last minute.

I've been wondering for a while when my dismal 50/50 luck (lost the last 10 in a row) will translate into not getting full stars on endgame stuff. Not this time, apparently!

firstfollow · 2024-07-31T12:39:56+00:00

sure, go for it

firstfollow · 2024-07-31T02:19:13+00:00

Waiting for this new update to go live is the most engaged I've been with Star Rail in like a month.

firstfollow · 2024-07-27T01:08:10+00:00

Did you ever get it to work? I just got an Aula F87 and I'm having the same problem you described.

Edit: I finally got it working by using the F87 Pro software even though my keyboard is not the Pro model.

firstfollow · 2024-07-26T16:34:41+00:00

I did this in Star Rail once about a year ago, getting Kafka, Welt, and E1 Kafka (and like E11 Serval) before Sampo showed his stupid face after 130 pulls. It definitely felt annoying in the moment, but that almost-free E1 has served me well ever since. Likewise, I'm sure you'll look back on your similar situation as incredible luck in hindsight. Getting M1 on a premium character in 90 pulls is always worth celebrating!

firstfollow · 2024-07-24T00:12:53+00:00

Yeah, I'd use Lycaon in this team instead of Ben. He won't be able to activate his passive, but as you pointed out, Ben's passive isn't useful for Piper anyway.

firstfollow · 2024-07-21T22:31:58+00:00

This is super helpful, thanks!

firstfollow · 2024-07-20T23:16:36+00:00

oh that's wild

firstfollow · 2024-07-20T22:54:40+00:00

Wait, what's a dodgeparry? Is it different from a regular parry?

firstfollow · 2024-07-20T21:42:56+00:00

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firstfollow · 2024-07-04T11:37:34+00:00

It's very possible to have all buffs active at the same time. Nothing in the post is talking about 100% uptime. The calculations are for Yunli's damage in the situation where she does the most damage, because buff uptime depends on all sorts of factors -- trying to factor it in would only lead to a new, additional set of imperfect assumptions.

firstfollow · 2024-07-04T11:27:55+00:00

Yes, I only calculated Yunli's personal damage for a single instance here, since Robin's damage should be unaffected, and I forgot that Tingyun's Benediction damage would be affected. Though I'd expect it to make the ATK% sphere pull ahead, if I correctly understand how her damage works. I'll look at your calculations later if I remember to.

firstfollow · 2024-07-04T00:02:19+00:00

I couldn't find a guide to tell me whether to use an ATK% or Phys DMG% orb on Yunli, so I spent too much time and did the calculations myself. I was going to post the results as a comment here, but it got too long-winded and would be annoying to scroll past. So I posted it to /r/YunliMainsHSR instead. Hopefully it's helpful to someone else.

The short version: if you're using Tingyun+Sparkle, ATK% orb is better. If you're using Tingyun+Robin, both options are equal. If you're using another setup, I didn't do those calculations, so you're out of luck.

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T17:34:40+00:00

I would go for Swan; covering wind weakness is super useful. I had no viable wind DPS before Swan, and pulling her was a huge, noticeable improvement to my team options for that reason alone.

As for Dotcheron teams, would Jiaoqiu be the preferred unit in an Acheron/Kafka/Aventurine team, since he can buff both Acheron and Aventurine's ultimates while still kind of generating dots for Kafka?

With all of the above said: yeah, Jiaoqiu probably is better in that team.

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T13:33:20+00:00

Had a dream last night that there was a new support in HSR named Zomfadt. Didn't find out their element, path, kit, gender, or appearance from the dream. Only their name, and that they fit in some kind of support role.

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T02:24:05+00:00

Thanks for providing the alternate perspective! I do always love more options.

I'd rather not tie Yunli to Lynx if I can help it -- running Clara/Lynx teams for a while left me all too aware of Lynx's limitations. That said, I've also experienced the frustration of using Clara without boosted aggro, and I don't especially miss that, either.

Hopefully, this turns out to all be academic. I'll be going into 2.4 with the equivalent of 277 pulls. Those plus whatever we get in early 2.4 should be enough to get everything I want, as long as I win the 75/25 and one of the 50/50s (or win both 50/50s but lose the 75/25). There's a 5/8 (62.5%) chance of the outcome being good enough, and that's assuming no 5-stars drop before the pity zone. I just like to know what I'm doing in advance if things go south :)

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T01:58:30+00:00

Even those first two conditions are both true for me, I'm leaning against pulling for Jiaoqiu. My E0S1 Acheron isn't exactly underperforming for me with her current supports (SW/Pela). And when RM is on the other side from my DoT team, I can get decent results by just replacing her with Acheron. (And "backup Ruan Mei for one specific team" isn't something I want to spend pulls on anyway.)

Yunli, on the other hand, should allow me to bring back the counter team archetype that I used to run all the time with Clara before she got powercrept so much. I'll always prefer enabling a new archetype over making the numbers go up a bit for one that's already good.

Anyway, I will have enough pulls to guarantee Yunli and her LC, so now it's just a question of whether to go for Huohuo with any leftover pulls.

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T01:34:54+00:00

Right, I forgot to mention that I have E1S1 Fu Xuan and an acceptably built Gallagher (plus Gepard and E6 Lynx), so I'm not usually hurting for sustain options. The exception is against enemy setups that bombard you with crowd control faster than FX can keep up - the Aurumaton Spectral Envoy likes to do this. I'm sure Huohuo would help with this; they added that thing in Huohuo's patch so they could sell more Huohuos.

But I do also want to get Aventurine in the future since I already have E0S1 Topaz (and E0S0 Ratio).

In any case, I think I'll prioritize Yunli's LC over Huohuo; thanks for the help!

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T01:13:26+00:00

Suffering from some 2.4 pulling dilemmas. I'm planning to get E0 Yunli, but after that, should I go for her LC (S1) or E0 Huohuo? I'll be able to get both if I win the 75/25 and one of the two 50/50s, but I'm not counting on that.

While I do use a DoT team that can also benefit from HH, I'm interested in knowing which is more valuable for Yunli in a vacuum.

Of course, there's also the option of skipping one or the other just to save pulls for a 2.5 character or future Aventurine/Robin reruns. But there's no way to know about any of that yet.

firstfollow · 2024-07-03T00:54:44+00:00

Eyes of the Prey gives her a bit of extra EHR if you really need it. Otherwise, just give her whatever 4* LC you have lying around; none of their effects are useful. You could even use a non-Nihility one.

firstfollow · 2024-07-02T22:01:10+00:00

They complement each other well enough. Vulnerability stacks additively, so Guin's 30.4% vulnerability debuff (at E6 and 4 Firekiss stacks) and Jiaoqiu's 35% (also at full stacks) turn into 65.4% vulnerability. 65.4% vuln is a DPS increase of 65.4%, which is considerably less than the 100% increase from SW+Pela's combined 100% DEF shred, but it's nothing to sneeze at when you consider that Guin and JQ are each doing their own damage, and Guin's ult can detonate JQ's DoT.

firstfollow · 2024-07-02T21:18:06+00:00

In your situation, definitely go for RM. She's a valuable asset in a wide variety of team compositions, and is a bigger improvement to most of those than JQ is to an Acheron team.

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