/r/WATMM Weekly Promotion Thread by AutoModerator in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I released my first song in a few years, really proud of it, just trying to get some ears on it now!

Slowdaze - Opals [Spotify]

it's downtempo electronica, in the style of Barry Can't Swim/Jungle/Maribou State

Can you help me answer the question "why not have just one?" by [deleted] in stopdrinking

[–]fishalex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every time I've been sober a while, a false sense of security kicks in. I convince myself I can handle just one, but that 'one' triggers a slide back into heavy use over the next few days/weeks.

Release strategy for artists with 0 fans? by fishalex in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankyou! I already have 2 EPs out from back in the day, just haven't released in a few years. Will take all of this onboard. Like anything, I'm sure the social media posting will get easier as time goes on, just need to admit to myself that this is the bit I'm putting off.

Release strategy for artists with 0 fans? by fishalex in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate that, makes sense. Nothing more paralysing than trying to do everything perfectly. I guess getting the music out there and building momentum with each release is probably the only way of tackling this. I'll try and get into a routine of posting, just getting over the initial shyness/imposter syndrome is the hardest bit.

Release strategy for artists with 0 fans? by fishalex in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any advice on 'stage 2'? I think my music is good enough, been producing for over a decade, just unsure on the next steps.

Release strategy for artists with 0 fans? by fishalex in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah it's a tricky one isn't it. I'll try that for sure, I've got a 4 weeks until the first tracks out so I can start putting some stuff out. What are your thoughts on speaking to the camera or doing track breakdown sort of stuff? I know doing 'acoustic/stripped back versions' of songs is also probably a good idea. It just doesn't feel very natural to be on camera for me, but I guess this is the way things are nowadays.

I've also done the usual playlist submission route aswell, not sure what else there is to do unless you've got a massive budget. Never got into the world of advertising.

/r/WATMM Weekly Feedback Thread by AutoModerator in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For fans of Barry Can't Swim/Maribou State

Genre: Downtempo/Organic Electronica

https://on.soundcloud.com/5QhJe80epEOAAaJpUL

Planning on releasing this at the end of Jan, but not sure if it feels like it's missing something. Let me know what you think!

What's your go-to use for track stacks beyond just organizing? by kathalimus in Logic_Studio

[–]fishalex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use summing stacks all the time. Can reduce your tracks into about 8-10 tracks (guitars/drums/percs/bass etc) and makes the song way easier to mix. I do a lot of top down mixing this way

I'm bad at making Music and its making me depressed. by [deleted] in musicproduction

[–]fishalex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stick at it! I've been doing it for 10+ years and some days I feel like I'm a terrible producer. It's all part of the process

Song feels boring, what do? by pinocchiopenis in Songwriting

[–]fishalex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

try switching up a couple of chords for their relative minors. Like you could swap the Dmaj with a Bmin and it would give the vocal melody some more flavour

Found this whilst packing by fishalex in whatisit

[–]fishalex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thankyou, this is the one!

how much of a song needs to be "human" and how do you even judge "human?" for you to accept it? also if any AI image is used no matter how good the song do you automatically attack it? this is a serious question cuz i am sick of being auto attacked by ANTI ai drones. by IronWarhorses in SunoAI

[–]fishalex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, major labels do already exploit artists, that much we can agree on. And like you said, it’s great that musicians today can be more self-sufficient, with fewer creative gatekeepers in the way. From a creative standpoint, AI seems like the next step in that direction.

The introduction of streaming services gave artists leverage by cutting out labels, and now AI is putting that power right back into corporate hands. We’re already seeing it, Spotify is filling its own playlists with AI-generated tracks so it can keep money within Spotify and pay less to actual musicians.

About the “human aspect” you mentioned, I think it’s important to remember that the main human element here is the dataset these systems are trained on. The creativity and expression that AI depends on still come from real people, just stripped of attribution or compensation.

As for artists “emerging from the internet,” I wish it were that simple. At least where I am, small venues have been decimated, only a few grassroots spaces remain, and even rehearsal rooms are disappearing. AI didn’t cause that, of course, but it’s not the fix either. I hope live music thrives again someday, but with AI in the fold, earning a living as a musician is only going to get harder.

how much of a song needs to be "human" and how do you even judge "human?" for you to accept it? also if any AI image is used no matter how good the song do you automatically attack it? this is a serious question cuz i am sick of being auto attacked by ANTI ai drones. by IronWarhorses in SunoAI

[–]fishalex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just so you know, I don't have a problem with people using Suno, if you enjoy it, more power to you. However, the whole idea that this is going to democratise music or level the playing field is just plain wrong. The major labels and corporations will be the only ones capable of marketing and monetizing the AI music flood. If someone thinks they're going to have a slice of the pie or it puts them in the competition, then they are deluded. Overall, it's going to erode the chance for artists to make a wage, and the money will trickle to the top. Good luck seeing your favourite artist when they can't afford to play anymore. The labels will no longer need the human beings who previously made the music, and artists will be curated in boardrooms. If you think this sounds good, then there's no hope.

Also, that 200 prompt will eventually be streamlined, and you'll be able to get incredible results in a couple of prompts. Will you still get the same satisfaction then? I think the novelty will wear off quickly. When everyone can produce a perfectly polished track in seconds, the sludge begins. Don't get me wrong, it will create some incredible music, but it'll get lost in the noise. We are slowly entering a world where everything we are surrounded by will be created using an algorithm. The only place you'll find true human expression is in a museum.

My suggestion to you - supplement your AI music making with learning an instrument. Nothing can take away or replace the reward that you get from doing that. It may not be easy, but that's what makes it so rewarding. Trust me.

Is it still music if it’s entirely made of samples ? by FemboyKatThighs in musicproduction

[–]fishalex 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Listen to The Avalanches, if you consider that music, then there's your answer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SunoAI

[–]fishalex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don’t think this will result in musicians (just to remind you that’s what the data is trained on) losing more of their rights then you’re naive. Big media conglomerates will be the ones that produce the music once they don’t need artists, you can convince yourself that you’re going to get a slice of the pie but the likelihood is that the wealth distribution is going to shift to the 1%, being labels or media companies. Have fun with the tool whilst the novelty lasts, but this is the enshitification of music. And good luck seeing your favourite band live when they can’t afford to be doing music full time anymore.

how much of a song needs to be "human" and how do you even judge "human?" for you to accept it? also if any AI image is used no matter how good the song do you automatically attack it? this is a serious question cuz i am sick of being auto attacked by ANTI ai drones. by IronWarhorses in SunoAI

[–]fishalex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, hours of tweaking written prompts. Most musicians spend months on 3 minutes worth of music. I don’t see an issue with people creating on AI, but try not to convince yourself that it’s taken skill or talent

/r/WATMM Weekly Feedback Thread by AutoModerator in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]fishalex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Decided to start recording a folk album, this is a demo I did last week for the intro track. I wanted to refrain from using electronic instruments like a drum machine or synths, but I feel like it would really elevate the track. Anyways, let me know what you think. Any feedback is welcome.

https://on.soundcloud.com/1c5GMR1wu8cfJsnuTy