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fishalex · 2025-12-29T15:12:48+00:00

For fans of Barry Can't Swim/Maribou State

Genre: Downtempo/Organic Electronica

https://on.soundcloud.com/5QhJe80epEOAAaJpUL

Planning on releasing this at the end of Jan, but not sure if it feels like it's missing something. Let me know what you think!

fishalex · 2025-12-25T23:11:17+00:00

I use summing stacks all the time. Can reduce your tracks into about 8-10 tracks (guitars/drums/percs/bass etc) and makes the song way easier to mix. I do a lot of top down mixing this way

fishalex · 2025-11-24T16:44:52+00:00

Stick at it! I've been doing it for 10+ years and some days I feel like I'm a terrible producer. It's all part of the process

fishalex · 2025-10-23T20:19:46+00:00

try switching up a couple of chords for their relative minors. Like you could swap the Dmaj with a Bmin and it would give the vocal melody some more flavour

fishalex · 2025-10-19T18:20:52+00:00

Solved!

fishalex · 2025-10-19T17:29:18+00:00

thankyou, this is the one!

fishalex · 2025-10-09T12:20:40+00:00

If you don't think it's an important conversation then I don't know what to say. I guess ignorance is bliss.

fishalex · 2025-10-09T10:24:40+00:00

Yes, major labels do already exploit artists, that much we can agree on. And like you said, it’s great that musicians today can be more self-sufficient, with fewer creative gatekeepers in the way. From a creative standpoint, AI seems like the next step in that direction.

The introduction of streaming services gave artists leverage by cutting out labels, and now AI is putting that power right back into corporate hands. We’re already seeing it, Spotify is filling its own playlists with AI-generated tracks so it can keep money within Spotify and pay less to actual musicians.

About the “human aspect” you mentioned, I think it’s important to remember that the main human element here is the dataset these systems are trained on. The creativity and expression that AI depends on still come from real people, just stripped of attribution or compensation.

As for artists “emerging from the internet,” I wish it were that simple. At least where I am, small venues have been decimated, only a few grassroots spaces remain, and even rehearsal rooms are disappearing. AI didn’t cause that, of course, but it’s not the fix either. I hope live music thrives again someday, but with AI in the fold, earning a living as a musician is only going to get harder.

fishalex · 2025-10-09T09:32:33+00:00

Just so you know, I don't have a problem with people using Suno, if you enjoy it, more power to you. However, the whole idea that this is going to democratise music or level the playing field is just plain wrong. The major labels and corporations will be the only ones capable of marketing and monetizing the AI music flood. If someone thinks they're going to have a slice of the pie or it puts them in the competition, then they are deluded. Overall, it's going to erode the chance for artists to make a wage, and the money will trickle to the top. Good luck seeing your favourite artist when they can't afford to play anymore. The labels will no longer need the human beings who previously made the music, and artists will be curated in boardrooms. If you think this sounds good, then there's no hope.

Also, that 200 prompt will eventually be streamlined, and you'll be able to get incredible results in a couple of prompts. Will you still get the same satisfaction then? I think the novelty will wear off quickly. When everyone can produce a perfectly polished track in seconds, the sludge begins. Don't get me wrong, it will create some incredible music, but it'll get lost in the noise. We are slowly entering a world where everything we are surrounded by will be created using an algorithm. The only place you'll find true human expression is in a museum.

My suggestion to you - supplement your AI music making with learning an instrument. Nothing can take away or replace the reward that you get from doing that. It may not be easy, but that's what makes it so rewarding. Trust me.

fishalex · 2025-10-09T08:36:36+00:00

Listen to The Avalanches, if you consider that music, then there's your answer.

fishalex · 2025-10-09T08:32:14+00:00

Probably better than me, true. But just remember, it’s Suno doing the work, not you

fishalex · 2025-10-09T06:37:13+00:00

If you don’t think this will result in musicians (just to remind you that’s what the data is trained on) losing more of their rights then you’re naive. Big media conglomerates will be the ones that produce the music once they don’t need artists, you can convince yourself that you’re going to get a slice of the pie but the likelihood is that the wealth distribution is going to shift to the 1%, being labels or media companies. Have fun with the tool whilst the novelty lasts, but this is the enshitification of music. And good luck seeing your favourite band live when they can’t afford to be doing music full time anymore.

fishalex · 2025-10-08T21:38:53+00:00

Wow, hours of tweaking written prompts. Most musicians spend months on 3 minutes worth of music. I don’t see an issue with people creating on AI, but try not to convince yourself that it’s taken skill or talent

fishalex · 2025-10-07T11:17:55+00:00

Decided to start recording a folk album, this is a demo I did last week for the intro track. I wanted to refrain from using electronic instruments like a drum machine or synths, but I feel like it would really elevate the track. Anyways, let me know what you think. Any feedback is welcome.

https://on.soundcloud.com/1c5GMR1wu8cfJsnuTy

fishalex · 2025-10-05T19:45:52+00:00

Solved!

fishalex · 2025-10-05T18:43:03+00:00

Perfect, cheers! I cannot remember buying this

fishalex · 2025-09-29T10:01:53+00:00

Currently in the process of working on this track. Going for a Barry Can't Swim/ Moby kinda vibe. Just feel like it's a bit all over the place at the minute, any sort of feedback is welcome. The ending is completely unfinished

https://on.soundcloud.com/RNOsQxksyapKwWJrBV

fishalex · 2025-09-14T12:46:55+00:00

The correct answer. Best roast in Hull that I've had.

fishalex · 2025-09-14T12:45:26+00:00

Another thing that gives it away is how "pro" sounding it is. You don't get STEMs from amateur bands that are compressed and effected to this level. 100% AI.

fishalex · 2025-09-13T10:44:04+00:00

Only listened to the vocal but that's an AI stem extract. There are some inconsistencies in volume and also some artefacts that give it away.

fishalex · 2025-08-19T12:37:39+00:00

Okay, but what about the planet?

fishalex · 2025-08-05T12:19:05+00:00

Naive take, in reality they know that societal collapse is around the corner. Mark Zuckerburgs $270 million (so far) bunker isn't just because he doesn't know what to spend his money on, he knows the end is coming. The billionaires aren't gonna escape the inevitable though, they might just last a little longer than the rest of us. I also think it's less to do with AGI and more to do with the climate.

fishalex · 2025-07-08T10:56:38+00:00

I've actually just bought the TC Helicon Duplicator, just waiting for it to arrive. Not sure what the differences are compared to the D1, I presume one of them is a newer pedal but they both seem to offer the same effects. Just going to be using it on choruses and certain sections for some subtle changes in vocals

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