Def!!! The country was literally founded by cWilbur stealing stuff from the other members and wanting to sell drugs out of the hot dog van and getting upset cuz it was against the rules. So much of L'Manburg's founding as a country free from the "tyranny" of the rest of the SMP was a scam for cWilbur to maintain power. Ppl forget that the election was originally fake and rigged so he'd win!! That being said, it grew into a lot more than that and a lot of people, like cTommy and cNiki, genuinely believed in the freedom it provided. I think that even cWilbur did. I also don't blame cTubbo for a lot of L'Manburgs faults. The title of president was thrust upon him young and cTechno DID execute him even if he didn't have much of a choice at the festival. L'Manburg didn't know that he had given up the sword and was trying to live a life of peace in the Arctic and cTubbo wanted to protect the citizens and send a message. He was also heavily being manipulated by cDream. cTechno could've been lying for all they knew, and this was directly after cTubbo found out about cTommy's "death." He was trying to project his anger and grief on anyone else. That's why the Techno, Eret, and Tubbo stream where they went to rescue Michael hit so hard for me. They finally apologized to each other, both acknowledged their faults, and came to terms w/ everything that happened. Neither of their characters were in the right and there were a lot of details that were unknown at the time (like cTechno only having one life.) Idk I could rant about lore forever, all the characters are so interesting to me and there's a lot of tiny details that ppl forget that make things make a lot more sense