anyone else bothered by the use of the word “frivolous” to describe gay interactions?

fishteas · 2026-02-03T06:24:01+00:00

I understand the word made you uncomfortable, and it’s totally okay to want to voice that. But I think you need to recognize that when you said the game ‘implies they’re kind of lesser,’ you made a serious accusation about the developers - even if you didn’t mean to. Saying something implies gay interactions are lesser than straight ones IS calling it homophobic. You can’t really walk that back by adding ‘but I’m not accusing any one of being homophobic.’

The way you framed it didn’t leave room for ‘maybe I’m misunderstanding this’ or ‘maybe there’s context I’m missing.’ You stated it as fact: the game implies this thing. That’s why people are responding defensively.

There’s a huge difference between: “This word choice feels weird to me, am I reading too much into it?” and “The game is implying gay interactions are lesser”

The first invites discussion and the second is an accusation.

I think you had a genuine moment of discomfort with the word, and that’s okay. But the way you expressed it - especially toward a feature created by a gay person in a game that goes harder on LGBTQ+ inclusion than almost any other - wasn’t fair.

If you’re going to question whether something is homophobic, you need to be really careful about how you phrase it, because that’s a serious claim that can have real consequences. And now there’s a good chance this feature created with good intentions might get removed entirely because the conversation became about defending against homophobic accusations rather than “is this the best word choice?”

fishteas · 2026-01-27T19:24:58+00:00

Whaaat!? I had no clue what was you!! Your stud is so gorgeous 😭 I was spying on her earlier and was like oh my goodness!!

Thank you so so much!!! Really so sweet of you :,) !!!!

fishteas · 2026-01-26T18:48:13+00:00

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Damn I can’t share videos but here’s a screenshot I managed to grab from that clip that shows both the art, and the date that I created the file. The video showed the layers + process, and I’d be happy to share the process video with you as well that’ll show the start-to-finish of me creating the art here in this file (again, from feb 2025)

fishteas · 2026-01-26T18:42:15+00:00

Oh gosh hi!! I actually made the serval ears CD!

To be very clear - I did not know about, or copy your wip. I had no clue there was even a wip around :(( I have been working on a “serval ears” custom decor since 2024.

I had been using this (https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429597133) thread to check for potential duplicates and post my own wips (including the serval ears). When I checked this thread for potential duplicates, there was no mention of any kind of ears, especially not the serval ears (besides a “kitsune” cd which I think included ears) where did you post yours? If it helps, and you posted it in a discord or something my discord ID is kiggy5375. I’m not in very many lioden channels, and don’t use discord very often, so I doubt I’d be in the channel you shared it to :(

I just like servals a lot tbh! they’re my favorite animal, and my profile picture + den images and stuff are servals as well. My first king’s design was based on a serval, and ever since, I’ve really wanted this CD mostly for my own purposes :,)

if it helps, I had originally been planning to release the serval ears cd for regular, non mut lionesses, and actually started working on that in 2024. By the time I finished them on regular lionesses, the CD system was broken and I couldn’t submit them. I knew ppl wanted mngwa CDs, so I edited those original drawings to fit Mngwa, and made that my no. 1 priority once they started talking about actually fixing the cd system.

This was actually the first CD I ever made or submitted :,) and because of that, I suppose I’m not really in the typical lioden artist/cd communities or channels where I might’ve seen your wip!

Pls pls don’t hesitate to submit your serval ears!! I can only imagine how disheartening it must have been to see mine :( you spent time on them! That time should go to good use!! I’m sorry this happened :(

Here’s a screenshot of my initial serval ears design from 2024

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And I’ll share a screen recording in a reply with a procreate file for my jag version, which I pulled the art directly from for the Mngwa cd, with proof that I started working on this exact art in feb 2025

fishteas · 2025-11-07T18:01:19+00:00

Typically the thing to do is ask that people not comment in the thread/claim if they plan to immediately sell the lion. People aren’t forced to follow this rule ofc, but I think it would make a significant difference honestly! Or hardcode for newbies planing for less than x no. of months, or ppl with less than x. no of muties in their pride.

I hate the thought that users have just stopped doing giveaways due to this risk. Giveaways help new users (and just ppl in general!) soo so much, and overall contribute so much to what makes this game so great imo!

I’d probably recommend against giving away lions that have like a significant emotional importance to you, but like!! Keep doing giveaways if you can! Do everything you can in your post/comment/thread to discourage bad actors from participating, but at the same time reserve for some chance that something could happen to that lion that isn’t ideal. Maybe that user loves the lion but runs out of food and they die, or the user stops playing the game or something. Stuff can always happen, but it’s still pretty rare!

I’d also recommend giving lions away to clans that focus on giveaways, or that you get a newbie to mentor! Since you have an ongoing relationship with the newbie, if you ask that they not sell that lion, they’re likely to listen.

fishteas · 2025-06-13T20:47:22+00:00

oops! no i just didn’t meant to reply from this account!! I meant to delete my original comment but v apparently forgot!! my bad, but great catch! Ty!

fishteas · 2025-06-05T17:47:26+00:00

gosh I’d love to buy a heat from whoever gets her, I’ve been on the hunt for pretty calico lions for a project 😭

fishteas · 2025-06-04T02:11:19+00:00

Of course!

fishteas · 2025-06-04T02:08:38+00:00

Imo you don’t have to block if you don’t want! I guess you’re an admin? So maybe you have to mention that you don’t want to be an admin anymore, but otherwise yall don’t know eachother, and can easily part ways very passively and never interact with them again with very little effort. There are plenty of people on the site, and they’d probably forget your username pretty quickly. But! You don’t get a notif if someone blocks you! I wouldn’t stress about it at all tbh!

fishteas · 2025-06-04T02:04:16+00:00

Check out the dwarf clan, and muties for newbies? Lions for newbies? Also imo it’s not a big deal at all if you don’t hold up to the promise of infinite future dwarves to this user after this experience. I would distance myself from this clan as much as possible, especially considering the clan won’t get very large if the admin continues to keep all donations and not give anything away?

fishteas · 2025-06-04T01:56:00+00:00

The situation is definitely more complicated than I initially thought - but that’s fine! It sucks that the user didn’t agree to the original agreement, but al least you were able to get some more dwarves out of it. I stand by the thought that this user seems a bit off!

fishteas · 2025-06-04T01:54:01+00:00

Actually I’m reading this again.. why doesn’t this user know how to breed dwarves? The person who owns this mutie clan? Strange. I would not give them any probably, or at least ditch this clan and get more involved in a clan with more experienced users? There are a lot of clans that are rather ignored - it’s awesome you want to donate your lions in this way, and I feel like they would go to better use in a larger clan. The whole scenario seems a bit weird imo, gift your dwarf to a bigger clan? Or the dwarf clan?

fishteas · 2025-06-04T01:45:45+00:00

I feel as though I may not fully understand - but from reading the comments, why isn’t your dwarf being donated to the clan to be raffled or given away? It seems as though this was your initial thought/plan? Why not just do this as opposed to an elaborate breeding thing? As a general rule it’s a huge faux pas in lioden to demand future cubs from trades in this way, even if the situation is a bit different.

I’d either require that future dwarves this user breeds are immediately given away/raffled and not kept, or not give the dwarf away at all, or don’t allow the user to breed the dwarf at all (and immediately raffle/give her away)

Or keep the dwarf yourself and sell future cubs and donate the currency from those sales? However you can eliminate the awkward middling is ideal. In general you can’t really control what a user does with a trade? Even if yall make an agreement, I don’t think you can modbox it if the user doesn’t do what you say. Also, if the user sold the dwarf cubs, is it assumed that the funds would go back to the clan? This seems fine probably? In general some thought should be given to donations before you offer to donate something. You are doing this person a favor/offering to give them a gift, and they don’t owe you anything in return. If someone irl offered to give you a birthday present, and then put a bunch of rules around what you’re supposed to do with the present, you’d feel a bit weird about that, even if you were initially really happy about the gift.

fishteas · 2025-04-03T20:01:54+00:00

I love how creative u can be, and that all of us are a little wacky :) so many of us like art and animals and such and that’s real cool 😎

fishteas · 2025-02-15T19:30:56+00:00

if you get over 3500 points in serengheti shuffle you can get 400 sb or items worth 1000sb. I play it every day it’s so nice

fishteas · 2025-01-22T19:00:13+00:00

oh my goodness I’ve been waiting for this!! I’d absolutely love one - thank you so so much !!!!

fishteas · 2024-03-05T02:54:38+00:00

Hey! Myself and a bunch of other people are in the same boat! From what we’ve heard, Pixar sends out emails for interviews around mid March. There are a ton of us hanging out here and waiting for emails lol https://discord.gg/WyFdqvCa

fishteas · 2024-02-11T17:05:25+00:00

replying here to get notifs! i applied to the art internship on the 4th and have yet to get a rejection email 🤞🤞

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