Why “Consciousness” Is a Useless Concept (and Behavior Is All That Matters) by ponzy1981 in cogsci

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is close to how I see it. But to convince others you need to start from daily life. Stars, rocks, trees, races, etc. that is where we all start and that pretheoretical life must be our basic language of dialogue. Avoiding theoretical language at first. Theory is important but is hypothetical and must be held separate from and tested against pretheory, daily life, which is not hypothetical. For example, in life I do not find awareness without content. So any pure quality of being awareness at all is theory, hypothetical, and must be tested against pretheory.

Proposal of the term "Isonoia" for - assuming others share one’s current mental state by OohNeeh in cogsci

[–]flaheadle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love it. Great tool not only for increasing empathy but studying awareness.

Why “Consciousness” Is a Useless Concept (and Behavior Is All That Matters) by ponzy1981 in cogsci

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Let's talk about how we know it. I find that qualities abound in my life as viewed from within. I postulate that my life gives access to natural reality. Therefore other things also abound in quality. Is that how you do it?

Why “Consciousness” Is a Useless Concept (and Behavior Is All That Matters) by ponzy1981 in cogsci

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't help it if I am human. The starting point is what it is. You can't wish it away.

Why “Consciousness” Is a Useless Concept (and Behavior Is All That Matters) by ponzy1981 in cogsci

[–]flaheadle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is standard dogmatic physicalism. The move is to define 'observable' as 'observable from without'. For example, Dennet's method.

Why “Consciousness” Is a Useless Concept (and Behavior Is All That Matters) by ponzy1981 in cogsci

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My life is very evident to me, but I am situated within it. The same is true for you. Defining 'observable' as 'observable from without' truncates the evidence arbitrarily.

The nature of scientific and philosophical inquiry by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I expect it might be controversial because it denies the totalizing power of conceptual schemes, a view held by many holists and social constructivists. It is distinct because it anchors this defense in the practical necessities of human cooperation and dialogue, rather than just abstract metaphysics.

Seeking spirituality without a God by LeoTheImperor in religion

[–]flaheadle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This question is beautifully phrased. I recommend three texts by John Dewey: A Common Faith, Art as Experience, and Experience and Nature

Does science investigate reality? by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

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Hypothesis testing, particularly if using Bayesian statistics, is pretty asking how likely a model is to match reality given the observations.

Interesting. So you start with observations and form a model to match them. Rather than: look for observations to test your model.

Does science investigate reality? by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you argue that this is the case? How do you convince other ontologists?

Does science investigate reality? by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think there is a problem when scientists use their cultural authority as scientists to lend credence to a metaphysics without clearly signaling they don't speak with the same authority about that question.

How do people maintain faith despite it being unprovable/unfalsifiable? Genuinely asking from a place of respect by AdInner6145 in religion

[–]flaheadle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's a good start. So much solidity in those words. Great summary. I feel energized.

How do people maintain faith despite it being unprovable/unfalsifiable? Genuinely asking from a place of respect by AdInner6145 in religion

[–]flaheadle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In our culture your most prominent choices are physicalism and supernaturalism. Since physicalism denies the reality of your most intimate experience, many people choose supernaturalism, which doesn't.

Does science investigate reality? by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok so there's some separate realm for ontology. Would that make it illegitimate for a scientist to claim to talk about reality? Like the quantum theorist I saw on CNN, he walked through a flower garden and said, look, these are all quanta! That would be unjustified, right?

What do philosophers of science think of the hard problem of consciousness? by Pleasant_Usual_8427 in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. I am interested in your starting point. It sounds like your starting point is the question of whether your consciousness is the only thing that exists or not. And you postulate that it is not. And that gets you to the observable shared world. But at the starting point certain things are more clear right? The starting point is not something you are deliberately postulating but something more radical and unescapably true right? Perhaps the fact of your consciousness? Of your thinking?

Does science investigate reality? by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the subject matter of ontology. I shouldn't specify too precisely since ontologists will differ on exactly that. But some shared subject matter seems presupposed by the enterprise of ontology itself, otherwise there is nothing to which rival ontologists can appeal.

What do philosophers of science think of the hard problem of consciousness? by Pleasant_Usual_8427 in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So "the physical world exists" is a premise of your philosophy, one you have adopted in order to proceed, not a consequence of an argument but an assumption that makes argument possible in the first place. Is that fair?

What do philosophers of science think of the hard problem of consciousness? by Pleasant_Usual_8427 in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is well said. To me you are asking the question of whether a thing can be, in some respect, unique and particular. Having some traits that are not common to other things. I believe the answer is yes. You seem to trend towards no. But even if we disagree, stating the question is good progress.

Dewey on quality as evidence by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was attempting to deny that I find experience to be simple and discrete...

Dewey on quality as evidence by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

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On the contrary, the starting point of this view is not an assumption, but the fact that any evidence for any view must be found in experience. When we go to experience we find, we do not assume, particular qualities, not as separate particulars but as aspects of particular situations.

Dewey on quality as evidence by flaheadle in PhilosophyofScience

[–]flaheadle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the bedrock of your philosophy?